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Hello y'all,

I haven't been active on here in a while-only coming onto the website to check the results section. The application season is not going well for me so far :(

Right so a quick update:

UCSF BMS: DENIED!

MIT: rejection

Rockefeller: Apparently they'll send out their last lot of decisions by the end of this week but I'm not feeling too positive.

Yale: still making decisions but I haven't been invited for interview-bad sign much?

Harvard: finished sending out interview invites a long time ago and I haven't got one. Final decisions in March.

UPenn: said they'd send out interview invites by the end of Jan. Don't know what's going on though coz I haven't heard of anyone who's got an invite.

All my various contacts are coming back with the same story:

No money in research at the moment, especially for non-American applicants

Lots of applicants because of fact that there are no jobs and most of these applicants have waay above average amounts of research experience which I can't even think about competing with with my measly 1.5 years.

All in all I don't think I'm coming to the States for Grad School in the Fall. I've now turned my attention elsewhere but am being met with similar resistance to the fact that I am international, non-EU, etc. Will keep trying though because I'm not ready to give up my PhD dream yet. Will probably look out for research assistant positions too and if that doesn't work out either, I'll probably return to my home country and sort through the slim pickings there.

*Sigh* sorry to be such a downer! Hope other people are having more luck than I am.

Ps:- What's with the FYI and Fake University posts in the results section? Don't people have better things to do? Ugh!


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sad.gifSorry to hear that you haven't had any luck yet. I hope that other opportunities open up for you if you're not successful this year. Maybe you can do like I did and re-apply next year if you're not successful this year?

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I'm a second-time-arounder, myself, and I second newms - hang in there, and hope for the best!! (easier said than done...)

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experience from an international student who graduated from a US college: it's always gonna be a little tougher for us. I started looking for RA jobs around this time last year, and it was already too late for a lot of positions. You have OPT, right? It's gonna be hard to find a one-year position, but if you apply to certain unis like Upenn, they will probably agree to sponsor your H1B. If I were you, I'd have a backup plan and apply for jobs right now, the earlier the better. Research experience, even if just one more year, is always helpful. It's a bit harder to get into grad school being an international, but the lab I worked for briefly at an Ivy school (AND it is a very reputable lab in my field) has had foreign grad students every single year (and they didnt even come from a US college; granted, most of them have had research experiences that might even exceed those of US applicants).

It's harder to get the money, but I don't believe "there's no money for international". plus, if you're from certain countries like Canada, you can also find funds there to support your research as well.

the best of luck to you!

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experience from an international student who graduated from a US college: it's always gonna be a little tougher for us. I started looking for RA jobs around this time last year, and it was already too late for a lot of positions. You have OPT, right? It's gonna be hard to find a one-year position, but if you apply to certain unis like Upenn, they will probably agree to sponsor your H1B. If I were you, I'd have a backup plan and apply for jobs right now, the earlier the better. Research experience, even if just one more year, is always helpful. It's a bit harder to get into grad school being an international, but the lab I worked for briefly at an Ivy school (AND it is a very reputable lab in my field) has had foreign grad students every single year (and they didnt even come from a US college; granted, most of them have had research experiences that might even exceed those of US applicants).

It's harder to get the money, but I don't believe "there's no money for international". plus, if you're from certain countries like Canada, you can also find funds there to support your research as well.

the best of luck to you!

Thanks for that. What is OPT?

Ivy Leages and private institutes can afford to take on foreign nationals because they don't have any restrictions on their funding but this year and the last have been very difficult in general so unfortunately the lack of funding is a very real problem. Also, I see that you're a psychologist. I'm applying for Biology PhD programs and those tend to require a lot more funding that Psychology programs do.

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OPT is a work permit that allows international students to work in a field related to their major for one year - i cant believe your international student office didn't tell you that. you should probably apply now to get a permit in time.

i was always under the impression that hard sciences are more generous and flexible about funding, considering how many foreign researchers seem to work in hard sciences. fact: my friend (also an intel.) got a job at Rockefeller (in Neuro) and they proceeded to process her H1B paperwork almost immediately after they hired her, because they are used to taking on foreign researchers and therefore have the ready resources to do so. this doesnt happen often in psych.

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oh, was just reading your blog and seems you're studying outside of the US? if so, forget what i said about OPT - its only relevant in the US.

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I'm sorry that you haven't gotten any positive news yet, but you still have hope because you haven't received confirmation from all schools yet. However, with looking at the schools you applied to, did you ever consider apply to non-ivy league? There are still excellent programs out there, and your list of schools gives me night terrors thinking about the sheer numbers applying to those schools, and they are pretty much the hardest to get into. Just a thought.

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OPT is a work permit that allows international students to work in a field related to their major for one year - i cant believe your international student office didn't tell you that. you should probably apply now to get a permit in time.

i was always under the impression that hard sciences are more generous and flexible about funding, considering how many foreign researchers seem to work in hard sciences. fact: my friend (also an intel.) got a job at Rockefeller (in Neuro) and they proceeded to process her H1B paperwork almost immediately after they hired her, because they are used to taking on foreign researchers and therefore have the ready resources to do so. this doesnt happen often in psych.

Again, Rockefeller is a private institute=more money with no restrictions on the nationalities of the people that use it

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I'm sorry that you haven't gotten any positive news yet, but you still have hope because you haven't received confirmation from all schools yet. However, with looking at the schools you applied to, did you ever consider apply to non-ivy league? There are still excellent programs out there, and your list of schools gives me night terrors thinking about the sheer numbers applying to those schools, and they are pretty much the hardest to get into. Just a thought.

You are right about applying to schools that are non-Ivys. Maybe if I try again next year. This year around my advisors thought I had a decent shot at these schools because of their various contacts and I could only afford to apply to 6-8 schools.

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I am sorry I am not in your field but I guess you could raise your GRE somewhat till next year. That seems to be quite important for international students. Applying widely is also important with the lottery type chances people may have in the process. I find that there is more money in hard sciences than in other fields, and also on some level it is easier to get in as an international to sciences (because math ability is more important in those fields than verbal) but of course there are some fellowships which are only open for domestic students. Good Luck! there is still a lot of time to get good results in this application cycle and there are all those European places (: !

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sorry to hear. as people have said above, it's not over till you hear back from all schools. i hope something will work out for you.

also, there's always next year. you can prepare better for the coming year, and increase your chances significantly. also, including programs in the top-mediocre-ok range would be a wise step, as you never know your chances. i applied in that fashion this year.

all the best!!

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