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  1. Three years is far back?
  2. I’d recommend looking up students at other programs besides Yale. There are nearly 10 students from Williams at Harvard and Princeton in the last 3 years. How many are at JHU/SMU/Pitt? (Also do you know there are a few people from JHU at Williams—including the director of the program?)
  3. There have always been Williams students going to CUNY, JHU and Stanford. There are also still more Williams students from recent classes going to Harvard, Yale and Princeton than going to the institutions you mentioned. Those three, along with Columbia and the IFA, are also considerably larger programs than many others, reputation notwithstanding. Looking at recent placements alongside older ones, there's really no shift.
  4. I'm not sure why you brought up Michigan in response to the post you quoted, nor how mentioning it serves your claims.
  5. "Dismissing" a school is not dismissing a scholar. Jill Casid is undoubtedly brilliant, but have her students been getting the type of jobs you'd like to see yourself up for on the other side of a PhD? I honestly don't know where her advisees have landed because I've never seen a Wisconsin alum teaching at a school or working at a museum I've looked into. This is not to say that they're not there. A more global point: to my mind it's a bit silly to imagine that you need to work with a scholar who focuses exactly on your area of interest. The place of slavery in 18th-century transatlantic economies isn't exactly something scholars of that period are ignorant of. Princeton, Columbia, Stanford, Harvard, Berkeley--and I'm sure many other places--would be viable programs to take on such a project (and as has already been mentioned, can provide their students the resources to do so). Many of these scholars who have forged new research tracks weren't themselves advised by professors whose areas aligned precisely with theirs. It can be liberating to do a Proquest search and see the variety of dissertation topics worked on by students of people like Koerner, Crow, Clark, Crary, Krauss, Kessler, Fried, Nochlin... even recently. Please don't take this as an apology for a system that can be disastrously nepotistic. But also don't use nepotism as a reason to ignore workaday realities, like precarious funding and onerous teaching loads, that can prevent bright students from taking full advantage of the mentorship of almost always brilliant art historians. Few dummy scholars get jobs (let alone get tenure) at PhD-granting institutions. But the simple fact is that the work you're enabled to do at one might differ substantially--and unfortunately--from the work you're enabled to do at another.
  6. Aside from Austin--which strikes me as an exception--what other programs do you know of that "won't consider" someone without an MA?
  7. Some schools might have POIs interviewing independently. Some do no interviews as a rule. From what I know, the following schools have been interviewed candidates somewhat formally in the last few years: Yale, Hopkins, NYU, Stanford, Northwestern. Wouldn't say it's uncommon. But, grain of salt, etc.
  8. So many of these departments have restructured since 2011. It would be silly to read this list as reflective of the current state of things. Since 2011, Yale for example lost Alex Nemerov (now at Stanford), Christopher Wood (NYU), David Joselit (CUNY) and a handful of other untenured professors. Hopkins lost Michael Fried (retired), Herbert Kessler (retired) and Felipe Pereda (Harvard). The way the former two scholars shaped their respective fields can't be understated, and their students teach at a number of those 27 schools ranked above it on this list (Yale, Princeton, Chicago, Hopkins itself). That fact in and of itself calls the accuracy of this list into question, even in its own 2011 moment. It remains to be seen how a department like Hopkins or Yale will figure into our disciplinary future when things are changing so quickly. But the former has some bright junior faculty (Molly Warnock, Ünver Rüstem and what's certain to be a new placement in early modern), and the latter has enough money to land with its feet on the ground, although its unclear what exactly will happen in that regard. Agree with Melatonin that MIT seems too low. Harvard seems too low, too, perversely. This list's top 10 doesn't seem totally inaccurate now, with the exception of UCLA (which I'd place a bit lower) and UNC (which I'd place decidedly lower.) A number of other schools lower down on the list might also easily compete for those top spots as well. MIT below Penn seems inaccurate; UT Austin below UNC seems inaccurate. Placement records attest to this. Field specificity is also important in certain cases. Look at how Asher's students at Minnesota have placed (Berkeley, Hopkins.) Or Saltzman at Bryn Mawr, who recently placed a student at Wisconsin--which is somehow ranked above CUNY (whose grads have been getting some really handsome post-docs recently) and Stanford, which now has Nemerov, Lee, Troy, Meyer and Pavle Levi--all of whom have placed their students well.
  9. Not sure if Tamara Sears is sticking around at Yale.
  10. I actually think Hopkins recently raised all their funding packages to nearly 30k. Can I ask what you're basing your assessment on?
  11. Hopkins doesn't seem to come up often in top 10 posts. Is that just because it's small? What do people think about this program? How would you compare it to Northwestern, NYU, Chicago, Stanford? A wide range, admittedly.
  12. Just a small thing: I think Darby English is teaching courses at Williams (though maybe I'm wrong). He seems to be doing one next semester (and his assistant at the Clark's research program has done one this past semester.) His predecessor, Michael Ann Holly also had taught the required methods course for the last few years, so there seems to be a precedent. Either way, I think that Williams students have easy access to him.
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