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There are schools that publicly espouse (2) but when push comes to shove, have negotiated up. I don't know how many in the 8+ do this but it does happen.

Once again, there is a lot of misinformation on here about waitlists. Just because you know of one or two or three students with multiple offers does not mean there will be movement on any waitlists. Many programs admit more students than they want to take, with the assumption that many will decline. So if a program wants a target class of 5, and admits 10 students and waitlists 2, you will need 6 people to decline before there is movement on the waitlist. Your best bet is to stay in contact with the DGA/DGS and ask about school-specific policies. Also, DavidSpring, almost every student I know in a top program has said they made their decision around 14 April/15 April. I don't have a huge sample size, but I really doubt that things will change much this year. That's not say that that is right/wrong, but just to say that asking people on gradcafe to choose earlier is unlikely to have any effect on when most students will decide (esp. as most of these people are not on gradcafe and many will wait until the last second to pressure schools to up the stipend offer). It's probably best to plan what you would do in all contingencies, so that in the event you get off/don't get off the waitlist, you know what to do.

So does anyone know what's going on with Rutgers ?

At this point I feel like I'm in a nightmare where this waiting is never going to end.

I think one of the reasons people reacted harshly was that philosophe might not have gone to the program just because she didn't want to be the only woman there. Often times a lack of women is a warning sign that something else is seriously wrong: the faculty don't work with female students or some faculty are serious sexual predators. These last two issues aren't a matter of comfort: the former has to do with the viability of a program to offer professional support to women and the latter is an issue of personal dignity and safety.

Shawn, the reason more women don't go into PhD programs in philosophy is not because people like philosophe make tough choices in order to diminish the real effects that male philosophers' misogyny has on them. The reason more women don't go into philosophy PhD programs is because of male philosophers' misogyny. Asking to be treated with respect is not asking men to come save us.

yeah I didn't mean to claim you were a terrible person for typing girls and gals, just genuinely warning you that that can come off really badly or condescendingly in sensitive conversations like this. We can't hear tone over the Internet, after all.

Given the sensitivity of this topic, you might consider referring to your female classmates as "women" instead of "girls" (yuck).....

I've got modal logic. That interview is a troll. I'm just seeing [] on my phone instead of boxes and diamonds, but no matter what [{ could stand for, that's a load of nonsense. Someone is messing with us very earnestly .

well, yes. but i mean: does that ever happen? that no one who is notified enters it into gradcafe and thus there is no "data" for some schools' acceptances?

yeah. is there any chance they did notify but no one posted it to the results page?

What is this "all schools" post you guys are talking about? I don't see anything unusual on the results page...