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About eveline

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  1. Thanks for the response. I hope everything works out for you!
  2. To clarify, did you turn down the two offers specifically because you were unsure whether clinical psych was the path for you? Wondering bc I'm all set to start a program this year and have been questioning the long, arduous journey is really worth it for me. I'm uncertain whether I'll look back and have any regrets.
  3. Should also prob mention that my industry jobs were in NYC! Might be slower paced in other locales.
  4. Second what @mattis said. A lot of strategic/analytic HR roles are basically utilizing the IO skill set (talent analytics, compensation analyst, strategic hr business partner, hr operations, etc). A plus is that HR is a department that ANY and every industry has. So w/ that in mind, it's definitely easier to find a job compared to other areas of psychology, like clinical, developmental, etc. Someone with a social psych bg could also probably have a shot at IO; just make sure you gain a good foundation in statistics. But it may be harder to get a foot in the door with a CV that says social psych as opposed to IO. It's just easier for a resume screener to call back someone with an IO degree, a more obviously related degree than social. @TheIndustrialClinician something else I thought of -- You should also make sure you can handle working in a "corporate culture" environment, which is very different from the world of academia and hospitals. In my experience, corporate was more stressful, fast-paced, appearances/presentation were more important, your personality/attitude had to always be "on it", you have to be okay with constant stimuli working in open-office or cubicle spaces. On the other hand, clinical research is slower (though still stressful when getting out posters/pubs with deadlines) and I've always worked in an actual office with not too many people. Again, this is just my personal experience, from working in a few different industry jobs and ~3 research labs/hospitals. The decrease in pace and constant stimuli were factors in my "switch" to clinical.
  5. Getting into IO, at least at the PhD level, is not necessarily easier than clinical. I applied to both types of PhD programs and got into clinical; was not even accepted into the IO MA program in lieu of the doctoral program. Though to add context: my most recent experience and posters/pubs were directly related to the clinical programs I got into. I did have significant experience in HR in the past, but that's a few years ago now. The IO admissions committee was probably confused about my flip flop (HR, clinical, HR again, what is she thinking?), but I wanted to try anyway! To answer your Q #2, real-life work experience is the best way to get an idea of what you want to do. Have you not done any internships or worked in labs by now? If not, why not try to find a full-time corporate HR/IO role, while simultaneously volunteering in a lab or clinic? Also try to reach out to each of these types of psychologists and ask them about their day-to-day. To answer Q #4, IO is definitely the financially more secure and potentially lucrative route to go. That is actually why I decided to apply to an IO program along with clinical... I missed my salary! I quit my HR job years ago to pursue my old dream of getting into clinical, but after one year of no pay as a clinical research intern, and then two years of meager wages as a research assistant.. I realized how fiscally absurd this path is. I feel like I'm managing a circus as an RA, for free. So, yes, I'm still going into a clinical PhD program because I worked hard for it, gave up many things, and already got in. But if I had researched more, talked to more people, I would've thought twice about giving up IO for clinical!
  6. @Kparis0723 I've heard not-so-great things about the TC program; namely that it's really expensive and you're basically paying for the Columbia name. That being said though, if you really want to pursue a PhD, I know several people that have gotten into doctoral programs after getting that specific degree from TC (I'm not certain if they're fully funded, but they are partially funded at the least). If your end goal is licensure, go with Adelphi. It will save you time and money, and note that not ALL PhD holders make more money than someone with just a masters. Some people go through all the schooling and then regret that they didn't just get an MSW. It really depends on what you do with your career. I think you just have to somehow realize what your end goal is-- maybe talk to as many people as you can, professors, clinicians, psychologists, and just ask them about their day and see what you think your future can be.
  7. @JoePianist would you mind PMing me your program as well? My scores were similar to yours. Thanks
  8. Montclair State U in NJ has a new PhD Clinical Psychology program with deadline May 18: https://www.montclair.edu/chss/psychology/graduate-programs/phd-clinical-psychology/ New program = most likely less strict criteria for getting in. The late deadline speaks to that.
  9. Have you tried Magoosh to boost your GRE Q score? As you've probably heard numerous times, these scores are unfortunately "gate keepers." Magoosh is relatively cheap and just watching a couple videos + doing prac problems is usually helpful.
  10. Just read about your dilemma. What did you end up doing? Sounds like a difficult choice, but very good place to be in to have so many options!
  11. I declined an offer from Rowan University (PhD Clinical Psychology) a few weeks ago. I loved many things about it, so it was a super tough decision. Hope it helped someone out!
  12. Have you tried finding paid RA positions? RA positions at a university, or maybe even a Consultant role in the corporate world that could be applicable? A wide range of industries are utilizing stats, big data; a lot of companies seem to be pretty into OB right now. Maybe you could find some kind of related paid role and simultaneously volunteer at a lab with absolutely perfect research fit. You already have debt, will gain more debt by entering a masters program, then when you (hopefully) are accepted into a fully funded PhD program, you'll still be poor (and in debt). Entering this masters program will have a spiraling effect on your quality of life for years to come. I wouldn't "bite the bullet" if I were in your shoes. I would explore all other avenues before committing. Good luck!
  13. I second that it depends on the Masters program. From success stories of people I know who got into funded PhD programs, they went into an experimental psychology masters program. They focused their thesis project to something related to clinical psychology and published. Also, their masters were *funded*. Yes, they do exist! One such program is William & Mary.
  14. If you haven't yet, you should search the available threads on the Student Doctor Network forum. I have heard from several sources that, "Stanford is paid to have their name used, but the program is not Stanford quality." I know two people who were accepted, but chose not to go because they felt they wouldn't receive the same level training that they would from other schools (and their tuition is also ridiculous). I was considering applying myself, but ended up not after hearing these things.
  15. Berkeley has just about the same prestige as Harvard, and you can still always say "I got into Harvard." I actually lived in Cambridge, MA for a short while and around the area, the H Grad School of Education is perceived as the "easiest" H school to get into, compared to the Kennedy School, Law School etc. PhD > Masters If I were you, I would definitely choose Berkeley.