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I'm freaking out!! I applied for both theoretical linguistics and applied linguistics in Fall 2011.

Theoretical Linguistics: MIT, Yale, Harvard

Applied Linguistics: Stanford, Penn, Columbia, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Boston U, CMU (SLA), NYU

GRE:670V+800Q+5AWA

TOEFL:116

Undergraduate (Top 5 in China), Major: English (Business), GPA 3.5 Major GPA 3.8

Graduate (Ivy school in the U.S), Major: TESOL, GPA 3.98

four letters of recommendation (two linguistics professor, one stats professor, one supervisor from internship)

no publications

four smallish regional conference presentations (pertaining to language acquisition, heritage language acquisition, language assessment)

two-year research experience with two professors in the U.S (one is doing second language acquisition, the other one is doing sociolinguistics)

one-year internship, research on cross-lingual syntax-semantics interface at one prestigious research-oriented linguistics center

two writing samples (final papers of two graduate courses), but both are about applied linguistics.

As an international student, I am pretty nervous about getting in nowhere.....I am in China for winter holiday and I'll be back on 10th to finish up my master's thesis and WAIT for the results of my application :unsure: .

Anyway, good luck, linguists.

so guys, this is it! in 3 weeks or so we should start hearing from the schools. Ahh! blink.gif

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Yeah, freeky. I wonder how many of those who submitted to these schools (on average about 130) actually submitted theses (that concern theoretical linguistics or a related field). As expected, sometimes I feel sure that I'm going to get into somewhere, and at other times I feel less optimistic. Oh well, may the Great Waiting Period begin. :-\

I didn't submit a thesis, either, which is actually one of the things I'm really worried about. I'm working on a psycholinguistics-based topic for my Master's, but let's just say my thesis wasn't ready come application submission time (as in -- I did basically all of the research and have an outline, but still haven't done any REAL writing yet -- unless you count the 1/2 page introduction I've done so far).

I ended up sending a 20 page thesis from my undergraduate honors program (different major), and a bibliography of my current thesis, so they can see what I'm working on. Prettttyyy sure this isn't going to be convincing enough.

I, too, go through feelings of complete positivity ("ONE of them will believe in my potential, for sure!!!!") and extreme negativity ("who am I fooling? you wasted your time!!!"). Very nerve-wracking. I almost had a heart attack when I woke up this morning and saw an email from one of my potential schools, even though I knew it was just going to be an admissions process update. argh.

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A term paper can be good, especially if it concerns linguistics. An applicant to Stanford would usually submit a writing sample of an average length of 15-20 pages anyway (and I've also heard of success-stories who submitted 20-pagers to their schools).

Thanks for being supportive. :) I know adcomms expect different things from people with different levels of education, so sending a short term paper isn't necessarily bad. Honestly, I feel my writing sample is the least bad part of my application. It deals with a syntactic issue and theoretical syntax is what I really want to do. The thing is it's not stellar - not a single component of my application (except my GPA, which isn't very relevant as I'm not from a very well-known university) is.

Anyways, I see you did an honors thesis. Is that your writing sample? Btw, I applied to UCSC, too. :) (And I made a bunch of typos in my SOP - I omitted a couple of words, I wrote a word twice... Ouch. :unsure:)

I almost had a heart attack when I woke up this morning and saw an email from one of my potential schools, even though I knew it was just going to be an admissions process update.

Me too. I hate checking my mail these days. I know it's still early, but I'm always half-expecting an ugly rejection sitting in my inbox. :rolleyes:

century428, I really wouldn't worry so much if I were you. :) Your stats make me wonder why I applied in the first place. You've got some awesome research experience!

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Hi everyone!

I applied to only one University which University of Colorado at Boulder. That's the only program I liked very much.

As every one else, I am nervious too...

I would be happy to talk to anyone....

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This only applies to MIT applicants: According to previous comments (see Tips for MIT Application 2010 (or something like that)), "usually it's a paper (=the writing sample) that develops and defends an argument about a (possibly very small and focused) problem in one of the core areas of research - syntax, semantics or phonology" that gets applicants into MIT. Note the fact that that's usually the case—I bet there have been a number of admitted applicants in the past who wrote a serious work on a topic of a related discipline. The MIT website says "these papers need not necessarily be about linguistics, but they should demonstrate an applicant's ability to pursue serious scholarly inquiry," so as long as the paper demonstrates that the applicant has strong analytic skills (which perhaps is too general a statement to be at all informative )-:), (s)he has a good chance of admission. (This is all guesswork, unfortunately. I would imagine that they consider theses, inside and outside theoretical linguistics proper, that argue and/or defend theories based on empirical observations.) I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. =\

I didn't submit a thesis, either, which is actually one of the things I'm really worried about. I'm working on a psycholinguistics-based topic for my Master's, but let's just say my thesis wasn't ready come application submission time (as in -- I did basically all of the research and have an outline, but still haven't done any REAL writing yet -- unless you count the 1/2 page introduction I've done so far).

I ended up sending a 20 page thesis from my undergraduate honors program (different major), and a bibliography of my current thesis, so they can see what I'm working on. Prettttyyy sure this isn't going to be convincing enough.

I, too, go through feelings of complete positivity ("ONE of them will believe in my potential, for sure!!!!") and extreme negativity ("who am I fooling? you wasted your time!!!"). Very nerve-wracking. I almost had a heart attack when I woke up this morning and saw an email from one of my potential schools, even though I knew it was just going to be an admissions process update. argh.

Your undergraduate work could be good! Psychology is certainly related to linguistics, and practically *is* half of psycholinguistics (I think?), which is one of MIT's 5-year specialization programs (and which, to some degree, I am considering doing, if the heavens part and they admit me). As long as the work demonstrates that you've engaged in "serious scholarly inquiry."

Thanks for being supportive. :) I know adcomms expect different things from people with different levels of education, so sending a short term paper isn't necessarily bad. Honestly, I feel my writing sample is the least bad part of my application. It deals with a syntactic issue and theoretical syntax is what I really want to do. The thing is it's not stellar - not a single component of my application (except my GPA, which isn't very relevant as I'm not from a very well-known university) is.

Anyways, I see you did an honors thesis. Is that your writing sample? Btw, I applied to UCSC, too. :) (And I made a bunch of typos in my SOP - I omitted a couple of words, I wrote a word twice... Ouch. :unsure:)

Me too. I hate checking my mail these days. I know it's still early, but I'm always half-expecting an ugly rejection sitting in my inbox. :rolleyes:

century428, I really wouldn't worry so much if I were you. :) Your stats make me wonder why I applied in the first place. You've got some awesome research experience!

This is all hearsay from other topics in this forum, but I don't think they consider typos in the SOP to be a really big deal. That your paper concerns an issue in syntax will probably greatly help your chances. And yes, I submitted my thesis as the writing sample. Unfortunately, the honors-thesis sequence runs throughout my entire senior year, so I wasn't able to send them a completed work. Stanford received a 20-pager (which, by the Stanford deadline, hadn't been looked over by my advisor, so I'm not incredibly positive about that one), the UCs received a 25-page improved form, and MIT/UMass received the 35-page form (which might be bad, even though some of the pages are filled with either graphs or derivations—they could potentially not want to read all of it).

Hi everyone!

I applied to only one University which University of Colorado at Boulder. That's the only program I liked very much.

As every one else, I am nervious too...

I would be happy to talk to anyone....

Welcome to the Linguistics Waiting Period Subforum! Feel free to tell us about yourself.

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I see there is a hot discussion here :rolleyes:

Well, you know, guys, I am really hesitating right now. I don't know if I have any chances to be accepted into the program I applied to.

I am doing my final year of studying at some University in Russia, at the Linguistic Institute. The problem is that we all study 5 years and have a specialist diploma upon graduation (it's more than just Bachelor's degree, but not Master's degree yet). All in all, I had to study for 6 years since I took one year off to spend it in Germany.

My GPA is 4,9 out of 5.0 (according to Russian grading system)

My TOEFL is 90

I didn't take GRE since the program doesn't require it.

I did my reaearch in cognitive linguistics, but decided to change the area of my interest to sociolinguistics. And I applied to the PhD program at UC Boulder.

It is really hard for an international student to be accepted at graduate program and get financial support, isn't it?

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@Typoglaster - Yes, I saw this on the website as well. I applied to MIT, too based on their 5th-year specialization program in Psycholinguistics. But I'm being realistic and realizing that my chances of being accepted are pretty small. I'm not sure how great my honors thesis was; back when I submitted it, my professor was urging me to send it to a journal but being the youngster that I was, I never got around to it. Man do I regret not doing that now! So maybe it is pretty good, and I'm just being hard on myself. Only time will tell.

I actually had a (very) brief conversation with a Linguistics professor at MIT, and he had informed me that they're really looking for students that are knowledgeable in Chomsky-an linguistics. He didn't seem too excited about my background, but I sent my application in anyway because I love MIT's Linguistics program. It's basically everything I'm looking for in a Ph.D program. So anyway, we'll see, but I'm not holding my breath.

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I see there is a hot discussion here :rolleyes:

Well, you know, guys, I am really hesitating right now. I don't know if I have any chances to be accepted into the program I applied to.

I am doing my final year of studying at some University in Russia, at the Linguistic Institute. The problem is that we all study 5 years and have a specialist diploma upon graduation (it's more than just Bachelor's degree, but not Master's degree yet). All in all, I had to study for 6 years since I took one year off to spend it in Germany.

My GPA is 4,9 out of 5.0 (according to Russian grading system)

My TOEFL is 90

I didn't take GRE since the program doesn't require it.

I did my reaearch in cognitive linguistics, but decided to change the area of my interest to sociolinguistics. And I applied to the PhD program at UC Boulder.

It is really hard for an international student to be accepted at graduate program and get financial support, isn't it?

I think you've definitely got a good chance of getting in with money. I know that previous international applicants to places like UCSC had money problems because Cali state schools couldn't easily afford to take on international students, but perhaps Boulder isn't facing such an issue. (Also, consider the fact that Cali is in a giant load of debt right now.) Did you submit a writing sample?

@Typoglaster - Yes, I saw this on the website as well. I applied to MIT, too based on their 5th-year specialization program in Psycholinguistics. But I'm being realistic and realizing that my chances of being accepted are pretty small. I'm not sure how great my honors thesis was; back when I submitted it, my professor was urging me to send it to a journal but being the youngster that I was, I never got around to it. Man do I regret not doing that now! So maybe it is pretty good, and I'm just being hard on myself. Only time will tell.

I actually had a (very) brief conversation with a Linguistics professor at MIT, and he had informed me that they're really looking for students that are knowledgeable in Chomsky-an linguistics. He didn't seem too excited about my background, but I sent my application in anyway because I love MIT's Linguistics program. It's basically everything I'm looking for in a Ph.D program. So anyway, we'll see, but I'm not holding my breath.

Geez, those professors really want specialized students. Nevertheless, NYU and Brown are probably both great for psycholinguistics (well, I know Brown at least is... I don't know that much about NYU except for the fact that they have Dougherty and Pylkkanen).

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I think you've definitely got a good chance of getting in with money. I know that previous international applicants to places like UCSC had money problems because Cali state schools couldn't easily afford to take on international students, but perhaps Boulder isn't facing such an issue. (Also, consider the fact that Cali is in a giant load of debt right now.) Did you submit a writing sample?

Thanks! The only thing is to hope for the better and WAIT...WAIT...And WAIT!!!! OMG!!!

Yes, I did submit my writing sample. I had to write a new one because at my time of application I didn't have anything appropriate, just some crap <_<

Here is the exerpt from it, describing the purpose of my mini research:

The purpose of this qualitative study is to understand how the language learner’s identity is discursively constructed within German-speaking context. The research covers the process of identity formation, negotiation, and interaction of different language identities (Russian, English, and German) based on an autobiographical reflection of a Russian-speaking international student’s experiences in North-American and German verbal contexts. The data were collected through the participant’s diary entries during the six month period of time when the participant was inserted into the German verbal context. I did myself without any professional guidance :rolleyes: That's why I am a bit nervous about it. It is 3000 words and about 7 pages in length.

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Geez, those professors really want specialized students. Nevertheless, NYU and Brown are probably both great for psycholinguistics (well, I know Brown at least is... I don't know that much about NYU except for the fact that they have Dougherty and Pylkkanen).

I know, I was discouraged after that conversation, to say the least. It made me think that a lot of the other schools I applied to are going to think the same thing. Which is why I have these huge moments of doubt now and then. blink.gif

Funny you mentioned NYU and Brown, I applied to those two as well for Psycholinguistics! I'm really interested in the work Pylkkanen is doing, but she, too seems to want students from a traditional Linguistics background. Damn this Translation Theory degree ... angry.gif

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Man, I thought I was coping pretty well with the tension of waiting to find out, then I stumble back onto these forums and I'm all nervous again! Here's to hoping that the next few weeks are fruitful and satisfying for us all :) I've been running every day to try and keep the heebie jeebies at bay. I have another friend who is putting in desperate hours on her honors thesis to try and compensate for her nerves. What distraction/obsession is working for all of you?

A couple of you mentioned that you received an update about the process from one of your schools. I'm curious, since I haven't received any updates yet. What schools were those and when did you hear? Anything of import? Let's pool our info and keep each other informed.

I'm applying straight out of undergrad, so like Zouzax and LostLittlePearlPiano, I am a bit concerned about having enough background...My university didn't offer a single course in Semantics while I was an upperclassman, so I am studying some set theory and logic just in case. At this point, I guess there is little to do but fret!

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Hello, everyone!

I am applying for Fall 2011 Linguistics PhD programs, too.

My profile is rather humble: Chinese; GRE: 700/800/4.5; Toefl: 105; BA & MA in French-related programs in China, GPA: 3.5, 3.6; few research experiences; interested in syntax...

While waiting for the results, I am reading posts here and science fictions to kill time... "Three-body", I do love this novel, enabling me to be concerned with something else ....

I do feel a great tension after reading a few posts here.... but it's no good worrying.... so... for the moment i indulge myself in the 3-body planet....

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Hi Spitz,

I am also from China. Good to see you in this forum

Hello, everyone!

I am applying for Fall 2011 Linguistics PhD programs, too.

My profile is rather humble: Chinese; GRE: 700/800/4.5; Toefl: 105; BA & MA in French-related programs in China, GPA: 3.5, 3.6; few research experiences; interested in syntax...

While waiting for the results, I am reading posts here and science fictions to kill time... "Three-body", I do love this novel, enabling me to be concerned with something else ....

I do feel a great tension after reading a few posts here.... but it's no good worrying.... so... for the moment i indulge myself in the 3-body planet....

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Man, I thought I was coping pretty well with the tension of waiting to find out, then I stumble back onto these forums and I'm all nervous again! Here's to hoping that the next few weeks are fruitful and satisfying for us all :) I've been running every day to try and keep the heebie jeebies at bay. I have another friend who is putting in desperate hours on her honors thesis to try and compensate for her nerves. What distraction/obsession is working for all of you?

A couple of you mentioned that you received an update about the process from one of your schools. I'm curious, since I haven't received any updates yet. What schools were those and when did you hear? Anything of import? Let's pool our info and keep each other informed.

I'm applying straight out of undergrad, so like Zouzax and LostLittlePearlPiano, I am a bit concerned about having enough background...My university didn't offer a single course in Semantics while I was an upperclassman, so I am studying some set theory and logic just in case. At this point, I guess there is little to do but fret!

In terms of distraction, I'm a little lucky because I'm in finals until February 1st ... so right now I'm insanely busy. Between writing papers and working almost full-time, I don't have THAT much time to sit and obsess over my emails (but somehow, I still manage to squeeze in an hour or so of obsessing daily).

In terms of updates, I haven't received anything important. Just an general email from the Dean at Brown University saying the review process is beginning, and that any offers of admission must be responded to by April 15. Haven't heard anything from any other school.

Yes, my background is a big worry for me. My undergrad didn't offer any linguistics classes, and when it came time for me to apply to a Master's program, I could've chosen Linguistics but I went for Translation Theory instead. The only reason was because I really, really wanted to learn and study in Turkish, and the Linguistics program was entirely in English. In addition, I wasn't sure if I wanted to go for my Ph.D at that time. Of course, now I regret it slightly, because I probably would've been more competitive now. But in the end, I really liked my program, and it offered me the chance to learn the language fluently. I'm just crossing my fingers that at least one adcom will appreciate the decision ... sad.gif

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Man, I thought I was coping pretty well with the tension of waiting to find out, then I stumble back onto these forums and I'm all nervous again! Here's to hoping that the next few weeks are fruitful and satisfying for us all :) I've been running every day to try and keep the heebie jeebies at bay. I have another friend who is putting in desperate hours on her honors thesis to try and compensate for her nerves. What distraction/obsession is working for all of you?

A couple of you mentioned that you received an update about the process from one of your schools. I'm curious, since I haven't received any updates yet. What schools were those and when did you hear? Anything of import? Let's pool our info and keep each other informed.

I'm applying straight out of undergrad, so like Zouzax and LostLittlePearlPiano, I am a bit concerned about having enough background...My university didn't offer a single course in Semantics while I was an upperclassman, so I am studying some set theory and logic just in case. At this point, I guess there is little to do but fret!

I doubt that the lack of Semantics courses at your school should be a problem. I think it's often the case that successful grad school applicants have had deeper knowledge (and interest?) of two out the three core subfields (syntax, semantics and phonology).

Hello, everyone!

I am applying for Fall 2011 Linguistics PhD programs, too.

My profile is rather humble: Chinese; GRE: 700/800/4.5; Toefl: 105; BA & MA in French-related programs in China, GPA: 3.5, 3.6; few research experiences; interested in syntax...

While waiting for the results, I am reading posts here and science fictions to kill time... "Three-body", I do love this novel, enabling me to be concerned with something else ....

I do feel a great tension after reading a few posts here.... but it's no good worrying.... so... for the moment i indulge myself in the 3-body planet....

Howdy! Where are you applying?

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I just finished reading the second volume of "3-body".....

then i browsed posts about SOP and writing samples of this site and began to feel uneasy....

i haven't had really serious linguistic courses in my previous programs.... i just read something on my own...about syntax... and i know hardly anything about semantics or phonology...

i am applying for MIT, NYU, UMD and UMich.... but after reading posts on this site, i began worrying..... my profile seems to be too mediocre... MIT and NYU are my dream schools, because I am interested in Kayne's and Pesetsky's works....

I doubt that the lack of Semantics courses at your school should be a problem. I think it's often the case that successful grad school applicants have had deeper knowledge (and interest?) of two out the three core subfields (syntax, semantics and phonology).

Howdy! Where are you applying?

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I just finished reading the second volume of "3-body".....

then i browsed posts about SOP and writing samples of this site and began to feel uneasy....

i haven't had really serious linguistic courses in my previous programs.... i just read something on my own...about syntax... and i know hardly anything about semantics or phonology...

i am applying for MIT, NYU, UMD and UMich.... but after reading posts on this site, i began worrying..... my profile seems to be too mediocre... MIT and NYU are my dream schools, because I am interested in Kayne's and Pesetsky's works....

I think it's a common problem among international applicants to worry and to doubt, if he or she is suitable for a certain program. This is because many of us are doing undergraduate studies in our native country. We can't compare the knowledge of American students with our own. That's why we can only think of ourselves as good candidates, but we don't know for sure if University professors will like our application materials.

I know, we all are people and we all are worried about our future. If I did my undergraduate study in the USA, I would feel more confidence right now :rolleyes:

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Yes! I totally agree with you. It is hard for international students. Hope that we can make it!

I think it's a common problem among international applicants to worry and to doubt, if he or she is suitable for a certain program. This is because many of us are doing undergraduate studies in our native country. We can't compare the knowledge of American students with our own. That's why we can only think of ourselves as good candidates, but we don't know for sure if University professors will like our application materials.

I know, we all are people and we all are worried about our future. If I did my undergraduate study in the USA, I would feel more confidence right now :rolleyes:

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I freakin' cried today! I casually called the local post office to check where my Express Mail Service package is. Guess what? It's still somewhere at an airport in Amsterdam! :blink::angry: It should have arrived to Connecticut almost a week ago! I don't have high hopes of getting in anywhere, but UConn's probably my top choice. I do love the programs at all the schools I applied to, but - because of the work Bošković does on Slavic lgs - UConn maybe beats the rest by a fraction. The deadline is Jan 15, and God knows when my package is going to reach the Department of Linguistics! :( (Btw, grad school received the transcripts, which were sent by regular mail, a week ago.)

When I stopped crying, I emailed the program assistant. She was very nice and understanding and helped ease my mind a lot. (Thank you, Catalina! :)) I emailed her all the materials I'd sent originally. I also emailed all my recommenders tonight, asking them to send her their letters. I hope I'm not getting on their nerves with my applications. And I hope they still have the letters.

So, the only remaining thing is to pray all the post offices involved finally do their job. :)

And yes, I submitted my thesis as the writing sample. Unfortunately, the honors-thesis sequence runs throughout my entire senior year, so I wasn't able to send them a completed work. Stanford received a 20-pager (which, by the Stanford deadline, hadn't been looked over by my advisor, so I'm not incredibly positive about that one), the UCs received a 25-page improved form, and MIT/UMass received the 35-page form (which might be bad, even though some of the pages are filled with either graphs or derivations—they could potentially not want to read all of it).

Oh, I forgot you were an undergrad senior. I somehow thought you graduated last year. I don't think 35 pages will be a problem, esp. if they're not single spaced. (Unfortunately, I left my writing sample single-spaced, so I'm afraid it'll be a bit hard to read.)

I did my reaearch in cognitive linguistics, but decided to change the area of my interest to sociolinguistics. And I applied to the PhD program at UC Boulder.

I know someone interested in socio who applied there. I wish best of luck to both of you! :)

Man, I thought I was coping pretty well with the tension of waiting to find out, then I stumble back onto these forums and I'm all nervous again! Here's to hoping that the next few weeks are fruitful and satisfying for us all :) I've been running every day to try and keep the heebie jeebies at bay. I have another friend who is putting in desperate hours on her honors thesis to try and compensate for her nerves. What distraction/obsession is working for all of you?

A couple of you mentioned that you received an update about the process from one of your schools. I'm curious, since I haven't received any updates yet. What schools were those and when did you hear? Anything of import? Let's pool our info and keep each other informed.

I'm applying straight out of undergrad, so like Zouzax and LostLittlePearlPiano, I am a bit concerned about having enough background...My university didn't offer a single course in Semantics while I was an upperclassman, so I am studying some set theory and logic just in case. At this point, I guess there is little to do but fret!

I'm afraid I'm to be blamed for all the tension here. :) Sorry! I just really think my chances are bad to non-existent because I don't know how to compare myself to US applicants and primarily because I don't think my applications have any extraordinary component.

I didn't have a formal semantics course, either. I learned bits and pieces of it in other courses, but I'd definitely need to take Intro to Semantics or sth like that for it all to come together.

As for distractions, I'm trying to read some papers I really have to read and forcing myself to start developing the idea for my MA thesis seriously, but I just... can't. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'm playing some really stupid games.

Btw, technically, I'm in a one-year MA program. We've been recently informed, though, that - while the program officially lasts a year - we'll have another year to complete our theses.

Yes! I totally agree with you. It is hard for international students. Hope that we can make it!

Me too! :)

EDIT: Probably too much identifying info, but I'm too tired to really edit anything...

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Btw, technically, I'm in a one-year MA program. We've been recently informed, though, that - while the program officially lasts a year - we'll have another year to complete our theses.

haha welcome to international programs, right? I was told that my MA program was only 1 year, too when I accepted the offer of admission ... well, once I started I quickly found out that most people take 3 years, and some even FOUR years to complete their thesis! Im in the middle of my second year and I'm cramming to finish everything in 2 years, it's quite obvious that I could easily take another year to finish everything.

In terms of your lack of formal semantics training, I think a lot of us are in the same boat. In school I've done some syntax, pragmatics, cognitive linguistics, and psycho/neurolinguistics (and that's only because it's my thesis topic), but a lot of historical, syntax, phonology, Chomsky-an linguistics I've had to learn on my own. I always try to read textbooks and articles to keep on top of the current research. But I'm thinking, if so many of us on here are in the same situation, it must not be an uncommon thing :) Let's see how the admissions results are ....

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Invited to the open house at UCSD in Feb! I am so excited. Still waiting on the other schools. Anyone else received news?

wow congratulations!!! i didnt apply to UCSD, and I havent heard anything from my schools ... maybe thats a sign things will start rolling in a little earlier this year !!

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Invited to the open house at UCSD in Feb! I am so excited. Still waiting on the other schools. Anyone else received news?

Didn't apply (though perhaps I should've?). At first I read "open house at UCSC" and my heart dropped. Luckily that C was actually a D hahaha.

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