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#21 kalleziffel

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 08:04 PM

So who's applying to German programs for the Fall? (Where at? What are your interests?)

In contrast to last year, no Germanists seem to be popping up...




Anyone else applying to Yale? NYU? Northwestern? Chicago?

Hi all,
I applied to the University of Chicago, Cornell and Columbia. Have seen a few people posting about acceptances from Chicago (via email) which can't be true ... since they state twice in their FAQ section that all admissions decisions are communicated via post. Chicago's my top school! Looking forward to hearing from them .... (waiting, waiting, waiting, and boooored at work)

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 08:37 PM

Hi all,
I applied to the University of Chicago, Cornell and Columbia. Have seen a few people posting about acceptances from Chicago (via email) which can't be true ... since they state twice in their FAQ section that all admissions decisions are communicated via post. Chicago's my top school! Looking forward to hearing from them .... (waiting, waiting, waiting, and boooored at work)




hey kalleziffel - the waiting is killing me too. What are your interests for study?

Can't believe it's taking this long to hear anything.


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Posted 09 February 2011 - 08:48 PM

Quick update - just got the official notification from UCB German Dept. via email. (I see someone else just got it, too - anyone here?)
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 10:06 PM

Quick update - just got the official notification from UCB German Dept. via email. (I see someone else just got it, too - anyone here?)


Bueller?

Bueller?

Anybody?

Anybody?




Sigh, nope. I honestly can't believe what sort of a wreck waiting on these things has turned me into. A shell of a man - I'm forced to resort to quoting 80's (almost) brat pack movies.
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#25 kalleziffel

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 10:47 PM

hey kalleziffel - the waiting is killing me too. What are your interests for study?

Can't believe it's taking this long to hear anything.

Hello Mr. Chesterton (interesting pick for a Germanist!),
My interests include (but are certainly not limited to!) discourse theory (Kittler, etc.), psychoanalysis, modernism, Frankfurt school, film, comp. lit/studies with the Southeastern Slavic "Sprachbereich," and ADORE, adore Thomas Bernhard, Jelinek and the other crazy Austrians (Handke not so much)! Have worked on Kleist, Kafka, Benjamin, Musil, etc. Mostly attracted to Chicago for their strength in reading literary texts -- you can't fail with Wellbery and Santner!
I'm dyyyyiiiiinnnnnnng in this "cube farm." Have many email alerts set up ... had received a very encouraging email a month ago from a faculty member at UChicago though, so here's hopin'!

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 11:28 PM

Woot! Chicago is sending emails.
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 11:42 PM

So who's applying to German programs for the Fall? (Where at? What are your interests?)

In contrast to last year, no Germanists seem to be popping up...


Anyone else applying to Yale? NYU? Northwestern? Chicago?

Off topic

Is the job market really SO awful as some have said? I'm an MA German Lit and will probably do Musicology for the PhD, (I have an earlier MA in music) ... but if I can't get into a top musicology school, I might still go for Germanistik. Is there a market at all? Or should I sell my Duden and try for a New York City cab driver's certificate?

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Es war einmal ein Hund, der verließ seinen Herrn, [ ... ] und suchte sich westlich [ der Elbe ] einen neuen Herrn. --Günter Grass

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 12:15 AM

Or should I sell my Duden and try for a New York City cab driver's certificate?

Do you have any idea how much those things cost?
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 12:23 AM

Do you have any idea how much those things cost?

I don't have the huge dictionary, though I've found a number of the smaller books on various topics in used book stores, for very reasonable prices :)
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Considering for PhD (musicology): University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople, UC-Davis, U-IL-Urbana, U-WI-Madison, U-Ind-Bloomington, NYU, UVA, UCSD, U-MD-CP

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#30 GK Chesterton

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 01:56 AM

I don't have the huge dictionary, though I've found a number of the smaller books on various topics in used book stores, for very reasonable prices :)

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Ha, I meant taxi badges. It's an Econ 101 example of a non-market policy gone bad: you basically have artificially restricted supply, which results in people paying an outrageous "key cost" of $40,000 - 100,00 to get the badge itself.

Get the Duden electronic dictionary; way better.


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Posted 10 February 2011 - 02:16 AM

Woot! Chicago is sending emails.

Woot woot!!!
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:07 PM

Got notification from Michigan.

I saw two Yale results go up - really excited to hear from them, but I haven't seen anything yet. Anyone have word on that / want to claim those?
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:09 PM

Also, anyone heard from U Minnesota-Twin Cities? My status has said "Graduate Final Review" for over a week, and according to the website that meant I should have a decision on applyyourself within two business days...I called and they said they've been backed up and things are behind, but wondering if anyone else has heard anything for German?

Same for U Toronto (says "Under Review"), Rutgers, and UNC-Chapel Hill
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 03:52 PM

In response to "no Germanists seem to be popping up" ... I was a double German and Spanish major in college and would've LOVED to continue studying German, but I was advised against it by every advisor, professor, or otherwise that I talked to because of the job market. (Yes, this includes my wonderful German profs.)

It was a hard decision, but I ultimately did not apply to German programs. Maybe a lot of others are in this boat, too? :(
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 04:36 PM

In response to "no Germanists seem to be popping up" ... I was a double German and Spanish major in college and would've LOVED to continue studying German, but I was advised against it by every advisor, professor, or otherwise that I talked to because of the job market. (Yes, this includes my wonderful German profs.)

It was a hard decision, but I ultimately did not apply to German programs. Maybe a lot of others are in this boat, too? :(


No offense, but I'm not certain that this is a terribly strong argument when one considers it as an argument for teaching positions in one foreign language as opposed to those in another. In terms of theorists and authors circulating in continental philosophy, film studies, comp. lit, etc., I haven't really seen a substantial pick-up in Spanish theorists or authors, whereas Marx, Nietzsche, Hegel, Freud, Kant, Weber, Schmitt, Heidegger, Gadamer, Benjamin, Adorno, Habermas, etc. (not to mention the countless German literary authors) still rule the day.

Spanish as an actual academic discipline and not just a foreign language pedagogy program got almost no love from anywhere until quite recently, and I suspect that the mercurial winds of ignorance and enforced monolingualism in the cultural politics of American higher education will deflate those sails just as swiftly. Further, I think that it would be a resoundingly poor idea to try and pursue any degree in the humanities with an eye towards a "more favorable" job market, so if what you're really concerned about is getting a job at the end, why not just get an MBA?

In short, to play a little game with the response to his own (premature) obituary from perhaps the best known enemy of the German language: "Die Berichte über das Ableben der deutschen Sprache sind stark übertrieben."

Now watch me not get a job :(
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 07:58 PM

No offense, but I'm not certain that this is a terribly strong argument when one considers it as an argument for teaching positions in one foreign language as opposed to those in another. In terms of theorists and authors circulating in continental philosophy, film studies, comp. lit, etc., I haven't really seen a substantial pick-up in Spanish theorists or authors, whereas Marx, Nietzsche, Hegel, Freud, Kant, Weber, Schmitt, Heidegger, Gadamer, Benjamin, Adorno, Habermas, etc. (not to mention the countless German literary authors) still rule the day.

Spanish as an actual academic discipline and not just a foreign language pedagogy program got almost no love from anywhere until quite recently, and I suspect that the mercurial winds of ignorance and enforced monolingualism in the cultural politics of American higher education will deflate those sails just as swiftly. Further, I think that it would be a resoundingly poor idea to try and pursue any degree in the humanities with an eye towards a "more favorable" job market, so if what you're really concerned about is getting a job at the end, why not just get an MBA?

In short, to play a little game with the response to his own (premature) obituary from perhaps the best known enemy of the German language: "Die Berichte über das Ableben der deutschen Sprache sind stark übertrieben."

Now watch me not get a job :(


Have to second what our friend "GK Chesterton" says -- if the whole telos of the graduate school experience is "job," get an MBA -- I'm in the corporate world right now, and I can guarantee that there are a lot of very happy people with jobs and MBAs there (cars, 1.5 kids, suburb kind of thing!)-- or some kind of computer programming skill; plus, where's our good ol' Bildungsideal if we're concerned with the silly job market. Raus, Neoliberalismus, raus! (If it had some kind of a form, say, erm...a "Samsian" one ... one would like to stomp it out of its parasitical, risible existence)
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:55 PM

No offense, but I'm not certain that this is a terribly strong argument when one considers it as an argument for teaching positions in one foreign language as opposed to those in another. In terms of theorists and authors circulating in continental philosophy, film studies, comp. lit, etc., I haven't really seen a substantial pick-up in Spanish theorists or authors, whereas Marx, Nietzsche, Hegel, Freud, Kant, Weber, Schmitt, Heidegger, Gadamer, Benjamin, Adorno, Habermas, etc. (not to mention the countless German literary authors) still rule the day.

Spanish as an actual academic discipline and not just a foreign language pedagogy program got almost no love from anywhere until quite recently, and I suspect that the mercurial winds of ignorance and enforced monolingualism in the cultural politics of American higher education will deflate those sails just as swiftly. Further, I think that it would be a resoundingly poor idea to try and pursue any degree in the humanities with an eye towards a "more favorable" job market, so if what you're really concerned about is getting a job at the end, why not just get an MBA?

In short, to play a little game with the response to his own (premature) obituary from perhaps the best known enemy of the German language: "Die Berichte über das Ableben der deutschen Sprache sind stark übertrieben."

Now watch me not get a job :(


None taken. To a good extent, I agree with you. (And just to be clear, I am not wanting to go to grad school JUST for a job). It's just that with the luck of certain faculty members and the info floating around, it seemed to maybe be something better to come back to, is all. A professor-friend of mine is doing an MA in Spanish to strengthen his appeal to schools and just to broaden his horizons, for instance.

Of course, we all aim to be hired -- but it was also what was more feasible for myself in the end. (There are schools where I have family that have Spanish, but not German)

It was just a theory I was throwing out there about the lack of Germanists, nothing more, nothing less. ;)
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 02:11 PM

None taken. To a good extent, I agree with you. (And just to be clear, I am not wanting to go to grad school JUST for a job). It's just that with the luck of certain faculty members and the info floating around, it seemed to maybe be something better to come back to, is all. A professor-friend of mine is doing an MA in Spanish to strengthen his appeal to schools and just to broaden his horizons, for instance.

Of course, we all aim to be hired -- but it was also what was more feasible for myself in the end. (There are schools where I have family that have Spanish, but not German)

It was just a theory I was throwing out there about the lack of Germanists, nothing more, nothing less. ;)



Well, fair enough, but given that there's only one thread on this whole website for people who have applied to study German, to come in and say that there are no careers and everyone in the world said it was a terrible idea and that's why you aren't doing it is like finding a forum for pregnant women and writing about how everyone you know says pregnant people are unhappy, resent their kids, get post-partum depression, etc. and that's why you have decided not to have children.


I guess it's just unclear to me what sort of a reaction you were hoping for with your original post - that someone would write "Yeah, you're right, there are no jobs, guess I'm an idiot for spending $1000 applying to schools and taking GREs"?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 02:19 PM

Well, fair enough, but given that there's only one thread on this whole website for people who have applied to study German, to come in and say that there are no careers and everyone in the world said it was a terrible idea and that's why you aren't doing it is like finding a forum for pregnant women and writing about how everyone you know says pregnant people are unhappy, resent their kids, get post-partum depression, etc. and that's why you have decided not to have children.


I guess it's just unclear to me what sort of a reaction you were hoping for with your original post - that someone would write "Yeah, you're right, there are no jobs, guess I'm an idiot for spending $1000 applying to schools and taking GREs"?


Look, I'm really not looking for a fight. That wasn't my intention at all and if I gave you that impression then I apologize, but I've already made it clear that I didn't mean it the way you took it, so you continuing to get pissed off about it isn't going to do anyone any good. And there's really no reason to get all hochnäsig about it. (And comparing my "coming in here" to the thing about pregnant women? THAT'S a bit "stark übertrieben", nicht wahr? ) You're reading between lines that don't exist to read between in the first place. I was just offering my reasons for not continuing with German right now. I am still very much a Germanist at heart. The last thing I would call you for following your heart and doing what you want to do is an "idiot" . . . we're all in an "interesting" boat (to put it lightly) with this job market, but I don't think anyone can make a mistake as long as they're doing what they see fit for them.

So, I truly wish you the best of luck and success and make of it what you will.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 02:26 PM

Hi all, I'm a Germanist at heart and make my home in Deutschland, but am an English/American Studies applicant this round. I just wanted to let anyone who's waiting know what I know about a colleague applying for German PhDs. About a week ago he received his acceptance to the Duke/UNC program and this past Wednesday he received word that he had been accepted to UW-Seattle. He's also apparently going to Michigan later in March to interview (but I don't know if that interview is a prerequisite for admission or if he has gotten in and is referring to a planned campus visit).

I'm a ball of stress right now and having some information has at least given me an idea of what's going on out there. I'm sorry I don't know more details, but I thought I would post what I do know in case anyone is waiting on any of those programs/wondering where the notification processes are.

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