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2009 NSF GRFP


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#1 soychailatte

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 02:44 AM

I am really confused- when is the deadline for 2009? The NSF website doesn't seem to be updated. Does anyone know?

thanks!
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#2 newage2012

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 07:25 AM

I am really confused- when is the deadline for 2009? The NSF website doesn't seem to be updated. Does anyone know?

thanks!


The program announcement won't come until August.
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#3 cleff

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:38 PM

I am really confused- when is the deadline for 2009? The NSF website doesn't seem to be updated. Does anyone know?

thanks!


Assuming they don't change their timeline, deadlines will be in the ballpark as the 2008 dates -

November 03, 2008
Interdisciplinary Fields of Study

November 05, 2008
Mathematical Sciences; Computer and Information Sciences and Engineering

November 06, 2008
Social Sciences; Psychology; Geosciences

November 07, 2008
Life Sciences

November 10, 2008
Chemistry; Physics and Astronomy

November 12, 2008
Engineering
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#4 AlexM451

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 05:12 PM

Hey guys,

I'm gearing up to apply for the 2009 NSF GRFP...but I'm a little confused as to which research I should use for my proposal. I'm going to be a senior this year, I've got tons of research experience, and am currently working in a lab. Should I use the research I'm completing now for my proposal? Or should I simply add it to my list of previous work and find a new project to write about? Do applicants normally pore over the literature looking for areas where they can envision the next step or do they stay within their comfort zone for writing the proposal?
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:55 PM

So I am a newbie thinking about applying to clinical psych ph.d. programs.

What is the NSF thing you are talking about?

Is the NSF thing a grant to add to funding of your exisiting Ph.D. stipend?

Also, which are the top 10 schools in terms of stipend offered?

More money is good, I realize program quality is important too to balance in the equation.

And finally which are the Ph.D. Psych programs that guarantee completion in 5 years?

Thanks!
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 05:21 PM

So I am a newbie thinking about applying to clinical psych ph.d. programs.

What is the NSF thing you are talking about?

Is the NSF thing a grant to add to funding of your exisiting Ph.D. stipend?

Also, which are the top 10 schools in terms of stipend offered?

More money is good, I realize program quality is important too to balance in the equation.

And finally which are the Ph.D. Psych programs that guarantee completion in 5 years?

Thanks!


Research skills are your friend, especially when applying Ph.D. programs :P.

There is plenty of information on the NSF GRFP at their website: http://www.nsfgrfp.org/

The NSF GRFP is for basic science research, not clinical.

Ranking schools by stipend makes little sense, since your match with the department will determine where you might actually get in. If money is that big a concern grad school probably isn't the best option for you. It's true that some schools have prohibitively terrible aid, but as long as a stipend is liveable there are many other more important factors to consider in your search, in my opinion.

The last question made me laugh, because the only way to guarantee completion in five years is for you to work hard and be a bit lucky (as many life events or logistical issues can delay graduation). It is not the job of graduate departments to hold your hand through this process or guarentee steady progress - that is entirely up to you. Some schools put limits on how long you can be in a program (usually 7-10 years) but I don't know of any that guarantee any sort of timeline for graduation. It's not realistic nor is it their job to do so.
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 04:05 PM

Hey guys,

I'm gearing up to apply for the 2009 NSF GRFP...but I'm a little confused as to which research I should use for my proposal. I'm going to be a senior this year, I've got tons of research experience, and am currently working in a lab. Should I use the research I'm completing now for my proposal? Or should I simply add it to my list of previous work and find a new project to write about? Do applicants normally pore over the literature looking for areas where they can envision the next step or do they stay within their comfort zone for writing the proposal?


According to my own + friends' experiences + advice from these websites http://www.stanford....owship-tips.htm and http://transientneha...e-research.html, your proposal should have basis in your previous research experience but not simply a direct extension of it. They like to see something more adventurous but realistic and practical at the same time.
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#8 AlexM451

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 04:52 PM

Thanks a lot, modularblues!
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Posted 04 August 2009 - 09:44 PM

The site just got updated:

http://www.nsf.gov/p...03/nsf09603.htm

Estimated 1,654 new awards will be offered pending availability of funds.
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#10 paralith

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 08:10 PM

Hi everyone, another newbie here - a lot of the comments I've read so far have already been a great help!

I was wondering what you guys think about class projects when it comes to research experience. I've taken a lot of classes where I actually designed, carried out, and reported on an experiment. I have real laboratory experience as well, but a lot of my experience at taking the lead and designing the experiment myself is from the class projects. Has anyone else described something similar in their research experience essay?

Thanks!
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#11 kdilks

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 08:09 AM

Went to look something up about the program, and the site was down....just like the good old days.
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#12 newage2012

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 07:12 PM

Went to look something up about the program, and the site was down....just like the good old days.


https://www.fastlane...v/grfp/Login.do
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:15 PM

The site just got updated:

http://www.nsf.gov/p...03/nsf09603.htm

Estimated 1,654 new awards will be offered pending availability of funds.


Is it realistic that they will get this funding? I seem to remember they say this every year. There was a lot of talk that the Stimulus money would only come next year. Is this still the case?
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#14 newage2012

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:23 AM

That's $66 million for the first year. Pocket change for the agency that has just got a $5 billion budget for FY 2010.

Last year they are saying 900 - 1600 awards.

This time they did NOT give a range, they give ONE number, something is boiling up.

The award payments starts late next year. The stimulus $$$ will have been long entered the system.
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Posted 31 August 2009 - 02:31 AM

Hi everyone, another newbie here - a lot of the comments I've read so far have already been a great help!

I was wondering what you guys think about class projects when it comes to research experience. I've taken a lot of classes where I actually designed, carried out, and reported on an experiment. I have real laboratory experience as well, but a lot of my experience at taking the lead and designing the experiment myself is from the class projects. Has anyone else described something similar in their research experience essay?

Thanks!


Sounds like you've had a lot of good experience to write about! I mentioned one of my class projects in my research proposal essay, because it was an extensive design project that was relevant to what I was proposing - in other words, it made my proposal more convincing because I have prior experience from the project.
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 06:24 AM

Hi everyone,

I'm also new to the forum and am wondering what weight is given to the subject GRE. I havent taken a bio class in a couple years and am pretty sure my score will be pretty low if I take the bio subject test. My GRE scores are not that great (1400), but my GPA is 4.0.

Also, I am NOT planning to go into a PhD program, I have already been informally accepted as an M.S. student at my current university due to an advisor who wants me to continue research in his ecology lab. What are the chances of getting considered as an M.S. applicant (and in life sciences)?

Also I did an NSF REU last summer, so I'm hoping that counts for something because I worked my ass off all summer at a federal agency and am trying to get my research published.

Thanks, good luck everyone with their application.
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 02:41 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm also new to the forum and am wondering what weight is given to the subject GRE. I havent taken a bio class in a couple years and am pretty sure my score will be pretty low if I take the bio subject test. My GRE scores are not that great (1400), but my GPA is 4.0.

Also, I am NOT planning to go into a PhD program, I have already been informally accepted as an M.S. student at my current university due to an advisor who wants me to continue research in his ecology lab. What are the chances of getting considered as an M.S. applicant (and in life sciences)?

Also I did an NSF REU last summer, so I'm hoping that counts for something because I worked my ass off all summer at a federal agency and am trying to get my research published.

Thanks, good luck everyone with their application.


How much time do you theoretically have to study and take the bio GRE? You can take it (if you have time/money) and then not send the score if it's bad. Your GPA already speaks for you anyway. I think the NSF REU will definitely help, but since they give 3 years of funding over a 5-year period, my hunch is that they will favor the PhD or MS/PhD applicants over the MS-only... but it's worth a try in any event!
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 08:54 AM

Thanks for your response, modularblues. The Bio Subject Test isnt till Nov. 7, and NSF will even pay the test fee if I sign up for it solely for the purpose of the GRFP app (there are some rules regarding reporting your scores). I dont think I will have time to study for it as much as I would need to to get a decent score by then with my current school and work schedule. Most MS programs I looked at before getting the green light at my current univ. dont require a subject test, so I didnt even think about taking it till I saw the GRFP supplemental materials section. I also plan to be in my MS program 2 years max, and I doubt I can carry over funds if I start a PhD program researching something else. Sounds like I have 2 strikes against me for such a competitive program. While the funding would be nice, I think I will look into other fellowships & scholarships more suited for M.S. degree programs. Thanks and good luck all!
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 06:06 PM

I am a current PhD student that is planning to apply for the NSF. I currently hold an MBA. I have made a career change from the non-NSF sponsored field of business to an NSF sponsored field, so I plan to write the 1 page extenuating circumstances essay. Has anyone written this essay before? More importantly, is anyone aware of a successful applicant that wrote the extenuating circumstances essay (or is it a definitive way of sending the application to the "not it" file?). Any advice would be appreciated.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 04:18 AM

cwd--
As someone who applied for the GRF last year and (miraculously) got one, I would recommend giving it a shot. I'm not sure how heavily GRE subject tests are weighted (there isn't one for my area of study, so it wasn't an issue for me). I suspect, however, that they are probably ranked considerably lower than the written parts of the application. As for applying to a master's program rather than a doctoral one, it shouldn't hurt you at all. If I remember correctly, you aren't required to specify that on the application, so unless you mention it in your statement, the judges won't know.

babaababo--
I definitely don't think that writing the extenuating circumstances essay would automatically get your application thrown into the garbage pile. If you can convincingly show why you made the switch and that you are committed to and prepared for research in your new field, I don't think it would be a problem at all.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: I should add that I think the GRE scores almost certainly count for something in whatever magical formula it is the NSF uses to select their fellowship recipients, but what is most important is the overall picture your application presents, rather than just a single aspect of it. You might, however, be able to get away with not sending the subject scores at all. Do the instructions specifically say they're required, or are they just recommended?
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