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Genetic Counseling Fall 2017 Applicants

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1 hour ago, WBGC said:

I know everyone is different.. But if anyone has any advice to offer I'm open to it!

My biggest dilemma with ranking my programs is that when I don't consider cost I have a certain ranking.. But of course my number one and two are about $30,000 more than 3 and 4. So then it makes me reevaluate my entire ranking. I genuinely cannot know if a specific 2 year program is worth so much more money. Does anyone know from experience, someone else's experience, or have any reasoning as to how much cost will matter in the long run, or if it's worth it to spend a ton more but enjoy the program a bit more? Thanks in advance! 

 

@WBGC one thing to consider is that with Genetic Counseling being a career in such high demand, tuition/loan reimbursement is easily a topic of contract negotiation with your future employer.  I know more than a handful of graduates who were able to work that into their employment offer. I've also heard a program director talk about how we should be more assertive about this (and about moving expenses!) and that most employers are willing to negotiate the matter because they are in such dire need for GC's. 

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I think it depends where you are and what your priorities are. For me it's only 21 months and I already have a ton of undergrad debt. I want to go as cheap as possible, because all programs are accredited so it doesn't REALLY matter. It's also not like I'll have money or time to really explore any city I'm in. I met with a genetic counselor who shelled out for one of the more expensive schools and when I asked her (in general) what she wished she'd known before school, she said she didn't regret it but also didn't feel her education was worth $x more than any other GC program. That kind of soothed me a bit.

For me? I'm young and haven't had a full time job and so cost is WAY more important to me than it is for others. I also don't have a spouse/family/etc. to consider. I think it's really just personal. 

EDIT: That being said, my #1 is inexpensive but I also really vibed well there. If I felt the same vibes there as I felt at the other, I probably wouldn't be as seucre in my ranking.

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3 hours ago, Gorays39 said:

Now that all my interviews are over, I'm finding myself liking two programs a ton and not being able to pick out a clear number one. I can't rank these places. I have no idea what to do. Hopefully I can figure it out in the next 6 days.

I also had a difficult time ranking my top two programs.. I went through all the information about each of the programs I interviewed at and ranked them on different variables (e.g. cost, rotations, coursework, atmosphere). After I totalled all the scores, my top two programs ended up having the exact same scores! Then I looked at the variables that were most important to me and ultimately decided on my top program based on the variety, length, and locations of the clinical rotations. 

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I bought a shot glass from each school with whom I interviewed. I plan on buying some M&Ms, putting one M&M in the glass for each pro, taking one out for each con, this weekend.  (I'm pretty sure I already have my ranking figured out, I just really like M&Ms and shot glasses.)

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4 hours ago, WBGC said:

I know everyone is different.. But if anyone has any advice to offer I'm open to it!

My biggest dilemma with ranking my programs is that when I don't consider cost I have a certain ranking.. But of course my number one and two are about $30,000 more than 3 and 4. So then it makes me reevaluate my entire ranking. I genuinely cannot know if a specific 2 year program is worth so much more money. Does anyone know from experience, someone else's experience, or have any reasoning as to how much cost will matter in the long run, or if it's worth it to spend a ton more but enjoy the program a bit more? Thanks in advance! 

 

I definitely feel you here. My top 2 programs are both really pricey. My number three program costs a lot less and would be pretty low in terms of cost of living. But for some reason I just don't think I'd jive as well at my number three program. Of course I'd be happy to just get into a program and I'm sure I'd make the best of things, but if I get into my top 2, it's going to be a really tough call. I've gone the whole route of listing pros and cons but it's not really helping.

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Out of curiosity, how many people's rankings were different before/after interviews?

For me, I had 5 interviews -- my #1 choice going into applications is still my #1, but the others definitely moved around based on more intangibles that I maybe hadn't considered initially. That being said, I would be thrilled to go to any of the places I visited. I think that's what is making this hard - I really liked them all, and I also am afraid of thinking too much about 'ranking' and setting myself up for disappointment on Monday if it turns out that this cycle doesn't work at at all. I am trying to just keep an open mind and see how things go, but that is easier said than done!

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I made a spreadsheet (unbelievable, right? Me, a spreadsheet!) and gave the schools grades in each of 6 or 7 areas. Then I let my partner weigh in on the cities and relative tuition/cost of living costs. I liked all of my top 3 programs very much and would be happy at any of them, so the precise ranking was pretty much based on the relative merits of location. But basically no matter where I end up there will be people I love who are upset with me and people who will be happy. My partner and mom and in-laws would love for us to end up in [CITY 1]. My dad and son want us to move to [CITY 2]. I am partial to [CITY 3] as a city and we would have instant community as we have lots of friends there, but the cost of living is intimidating. Combined with a higher tuition than my other two schools, it's hard to make a case for [CITY 3 SCHOOL] even though vibe-wise they were my favorite. My daughter is a being of pure enthusiasm and will be delighted by literally any city.

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2 minutes ago, Darwin said:

Out of curiosity, how many people's rankings were different before/after interviews?

For me, I had 5 interviews -- my #1 choice going into applications is still my #1, but the others definitely moved around based on more intangibles that I maybe hadn't considered initially. That being said, I would be thrilled to go to any of the places I visited. I think that's what is making this hard - I really liked them all, and I also am afraid of thinking too much about 'ranking' and setting myself up for disappointment on Monday if it turns out that this cycle doesn't work at at all. I am trying to just keep an open mind and see how things go, but that is easier said than done!

#1 stayed at the top, but #2 jump from the bottom of my list after I visited and met the faculty.

Man, I've kinda pushed the possibility of not getting in out of my mind. If I don't get in I've got to apply for this dumb physiology/biochem masters at U of L in like 2 days and beg them for early entry in the summer so that i can actually finish the degree by May 2018 in time for the next GC cycle.

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12 minutes ago, Darwin said:

Out of curiosity, how many people's rankings were different before/after interviews?

For me, I had 5 interviews -- my #1 choice going into applications is still my #1, but the others definitely moved around based on more intangibles that I maybe hadn't considered initially. That being said, I would be thrilled to go to any of the places I visited. I think that's what is making this hard - I really liked them all, and I also am afraid of thinking too much about 'ranking' and setting myself up for disappointment on Monday if it turns out that this cycle doesn't work at at all. I am trying to just keep an open mind and see how things go, but that is easier said than done!

My ranking changed entirely. My top 2 schools were programs I barely considered before actually going there. I realized how important location was to me. I'm thankful that my partner is happy with long distance, so I can go basically anywhere. I've never had so much freedom before! Also a school I interviewed at that I expected to love just...didn't wow me. It didn't have a lot of what I was looking for even though the name of it was appealing.

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@Ultrapeaches, have you found that knowing where your family wants you to go influences things? I both really want to know what they think and don't!

I was laying in bed last night thinking about how we're [now less] than a week away and could feel my heart rate increase.

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7 hours ago, WBGC said:

I know everyone is different.. But if anyone has any advice to offer I'm open to it!

My biggest dilemma with ranking my programs is that when I don't consider cost I have a certain ranking.. But of course my number one and two are about $30,000 more than 3 and 4. So then it makes me reevaluate my entire ranking. I genuinely cannot know if a specific 2 year program is worth so much more money. Does anyone know from experience, someone else's experience, or have any reasoning as to how much cost will matter in the long run, or if it's worth it to spend a ton more but enjoy the program a bit more? Thanks in advance! 

 

Cost is obviously a big thing to consider but at the same time, an extra $20,000 isn't going to make a huge difference in the long run. Especially since we're guaranteed a job after graduation and some jobs even help pay off your loans, it's not something I'm extremely worried about. Unless that's the difference between you not needing loans and suddenly needing loans, a little extra isn't going to be a big difference. I know some people have been working a long time and/or have a family, but most of us are used to living the "college life" already. So if I need to live that way for a little while after graduation to pay off the loans a bit faster, it's not a big deal. My first and second choice are almost a $60,000 difference so that did make an impact on my decision because that's almost an entire year's salary (I also only liked one slightly better) but my other schools that are $10-$30k different were not really impacted. I guess I use cost more as a tie breaker than an actual factor. 

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2 hours ago, Gadgette said:

@Ultrapeaches, have you found that knowing where your family wants you to go influences things? I both really want to know what they think and don't!

I was laying in bed last night thinking about how we're [now less] than a week away and could feel my heart rate increase.

I think it depends on your relationship with the family members in question - I care about my parents' and inlaws' relationships with their grandkids, and it's possible that my dad my sweeten the deal with dollars if I move close to him and fret about moving costs, cost of living, whatever.

If it were just me I probably would not care what they wanted, because my personal relationships with them are kinda so-so.

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That's fair. I applied to one school about 2 hours from my parents, and one about a 20 minute walk from my in-laws. It would have been nice to be close. But the silver lining to getting rejected from both is that I can say I tried, I can pick a program without parents being a huge influence, and no one will feel like I picked one set of parents over the other.

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I decided to plan a trip to visit a friend in the UK 2 days after Match Day (I know poor choice to blow my tax refund when I should be saving for grad school). It's definitely helping me keep my mind off things, which is a major plus. However, my type A personality has already packed my luggage, booked hostels, and prepared all the documents I would need. So now I have nothing to keep myself busy.

I also joined a bowling league...it seemed like a good idea at the time.

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Is anyone else maniacally checking the university admission portals to see if maybe the status of our application has been updated to "accepted" or something...I'm just hoping for a slip up like that. ugh 5 more days!!!

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42 minutes ago, KeepSwimming2017 said:

Is anyone else maniacally checking the university admission portals to see if maybe the status of our application has been updated to "accepted" or something...I'm just hoping for a slip up like that. ugh 5 more days!!!

I keep checking my email, then reminding myself that: a.) it isn't time. and b.) the news I want will likely be in a phone call and an email probably won't have the answer I want.

Just remember, a week from right now the wait will, one way or another, be over!

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2 hours ago, KeepSwimming2017 said:

Is anyone else maniacally checking the university admission portals to see if maybe the status of our application has been updated to "accepted" or something...I'm just hoping for a slip up like that. ugh 5 more days!!!

I got an email from the University of Michigan's genetic counseling program and I nearly jumped out of my skin. But it was just a department newsletter. 

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37 minutes ago, Gorays39 said:

I got an email from the University of Michigan's genetic counseling program and I nearly jumped out of my skin. But it was just a department newsletter. 

Haha, yeah, Brandeis emailed me to make sure they had my correct contact information and I was like "AAAAAHHH- oh yes that it my phone number thank you"

But honestly, the handouts the schools all gave us from AGCPD made it sound like it was strictly verboden to let candidates know about their admission status early, so I doubt that schools would risk their accreditation to notify people ahead of time, either intentionally or on accident.

We just have to wait for Monday, guys. Though I'll probably die of anticipation before then, I'll have my partner get on the forum and let you know where I was accepted and where I would have matriculated had the wait not killed me.

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I found out today that the GC I interned with lost her job - the hospital is killing their entire oncology department for some reason. I haven't been able to get a hold of her - I was hoping to meet up with her anyway to deliver a thank-you basket of various crafty bric-a-brac that I make (tea cup pour candles, lotion, bath bomb, cookies) but now I really want to talk to her to make sure she's doing okay.

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I just wanted to remind everyone in the craziness next week that if you get in to several programs at least to let the programs you definitely don't want to go to know. It says we have until the 26 to decide, but if you get off the waiting list at 4.30 on 26th you still only have until 5.00 on the 26th to say yes.

It helps others that may really want that place be able to have some peace of mind. (and have a great day!) Also its kind of sucky to hold a place when you know you won't be going there.

Now I have to find something else to distract myself with for a few days :-/

 

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One of the schools that rejected me for an interview sent me another rejection email this morning...I'm really confused! This makes me even more nervous for Monday D:

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This is stuck in my head as we inch closer to Match Day. I am Gob.

 

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Has anyone else gotten a, like, check in email from school they interviewed with? Very general - "Thanks for interviewing, if you have any questions about program please let us know, good luck on match day!"

I'm trying to decide if this is an auspicious sign.

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