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    iopsych got a reaction from Psychological Yam in I/O Psychology VS Social Organizational Psychology? HELP!   
    I would not say it is more applied. I don't get that vibe at all. If anything I would say it is less applied as most org. psych topics are more theoretical. Motivation, leadership, and org. theory are very theoretical topics.

    Selection, training, performance appraisals, and job analyses are all very applied topics.

    Now leadership can be assessed and developed, but that is through utilization of selection, and PAs, and training.

    I would say that a balanced I and O program would be a better fit for someone wanting to go applied than an S-O program. Plus the I/O community is very small, while Columbia may have a very good repuation among the average populace, among I/Oers it is nothing compared to Michigan State, Bowling Green, USF, Minnesota, Penn State, etc.
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    iopsych got a reaction from ihatechoosingusernames in I/O Psychology VS Social Organizational Psychology? HELP!   
    From what I can tell the difference is the fact that TC's S-O program seems to focus heavily on the organizational side and less focus is placed on the industrial side.

    So a strong focus on teams, leadership, motivation, org. theory, and attitudes.

    With less of a focus on selection, training, performance appraisal, criterion theory, individual differences, job analysis, and individual assessment.
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    iopsych got a reaction from Blackwater in I/O Psychology VS Social Organizational Psychology? HELP!   
    From what I can tell the difference is the fact that TC's S-O program seems to focus heavily on the organizational side and less focus is placed on the industrial side.

    So a strong focus on teams, leadership, motivation, org. theory, and attitudes.

    With less of a focus on selection, training, performance appraisal, criterion theory, individual differences, job analysis, and individual assessment.
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    iopsych got a reaction from eternallyephemeral in I/O Psychology VS Social Organizational Psychology? HELP!   
    I would not say it is more applied. I don't get that vibe at all. If anything I would say it is less applied as most org. psych topics are more theoretical. Motivation, leadership, and org. theory are very theoretical topics.

    Selection, training, performance appraisals, and job analyses are all very applied topics.

    Now leadership can be assessed and developed, but that is through utilization of selection, and PAs, and training.

    I would say that a balanced I and O program would be a better fit for someone wanting to go applied than an S-O program. Plus the I/O community is very small, while Columbia may have a very good repuation among the average populace, among I/Oers it is nothing compared to Michigan State, Bowling Green, USF, Minnesota, Penn State, etc.
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    iopsych got a reaction from eternallyephemeral in I/O Psychology VS Social Organizational Psychology? HELP!   
    From what I can tell the difference is the fact that TC's S-O program seems to focus heavily on the organizational side and less focus is placed on the industrial side.

    So a strong focus on teams, leadership, motivation, org. theory, and attitudes.

    With less of a focus on selection, training, performance appraisal, criterion theory, individual differences, job analysis, and individual assessment.
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    iopsych got a reaction from CompulsiveEmailRefreshing in Fall 2014 I/O PhD Applicants   
    You can always go MS and then apply to fully funded PhD programs after you finish the MS. You typically only get to transfer about 1 semester of credits into the PhD, but at least you will be funded for the last 4-4.5 years and you may decide an MS is enough after you complete it. 
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    iopsych got a reaction from kaswing in Fall 2015 I/O Applicants   
    I graduated from an I/O PhD program last year and have been working full time for 3 years, so if anybody has any questions about grad school or work I would be happy to try my best to answer them. 
     
    Good luck everyone! It looks like as I/O gets more and more popular the process is becoming much more competitive. I doubt I would be competitive with most of you today  
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    iopsych got a reaction from Chops13 in Ph.D in Applied Psychology Vs. IO For Someone Looking to be a Consultant   
    You will be fine. Just make sure you are able to get experience that lends itself to being a consultant. Nobody is going to check your diploma for the title of your degree. 
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    iopsych got a reaction from Quant_Liz_Lemon in CV formatting question - posters and publications   
    I'd separate them and call 1 pubs and 1 conference presentations.
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    iopsych got a reaction from IOPsych3927 in I/O Psychology VS Social Organizational Psychology? HELP!   
    Probably to late, but as I have mentioned in other threads I/O is a very small community. Most jobs you will take out of grad school will be working with other I/Os. Columbia is not an Ivy when it comes to I/O, in fact they have very little presence in the community. You almost never seen anything come out of Columbia that makes it into a large journal (JAP, PPsych, AOM, etc.) and I have never actually met anyone that went to Columbia (I have worked at or with many of the top I/O firms; DDI, Kenexa, SHL, PDRI, FMP, etc.). So they aren't getting/or taking jobs at these firms. They may be staying in NYC and taking jobs at Deloitte, EY, etc. and if traditional consulting where you work 60-70 hours a week sounds like your style it may be something you want to consider.
     
    But, Columbia is not considered an Ivy in the I/O community. Remember, grad school is very different than undergrad.
     
    The Ivy's in I/O are; Minnesota, Michigan State, Penn State, USF, Bowling Green, etc.
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    iopsych got a reaction from Zencarrot in I/O Psychology VS Social Organizational Psychology? HELP!   
    Probably to late, but as I have mentioned in other threads I/O is a very small community. Most jobs you will take out of grad school will be working with other I/Os. Columbia is not an Ivy when it comes to I/O, in fact they have very little presence in the community. You almost never seen anything come out of Columbia that makes it into a large journal (JAP, PPsych, AOM, etc.) and I have never actually met anyone that went to Columbia (I have worked at or with many of the top I/O firms; DDI, Kenexa, SHL, PDRI, FMP, etc.). So they aren't getting/or taking jobs at these firms. They may be staying in NYC and taking jobs at Deloitte, EY, etc. and if traditional consulting where you work 60-70 hours a week sounds like your style it may be something you want to consider.
     
    But, Columbia is not considered an Ivy in the I/O community. Remember, grad school is very different than undergrad.
     
    The Ivy's in I/O are; Minnesota, Michigan State, Penn State, USF, Bowling Green, etc.
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    iopsych got a reaction from sacox17 in I/O Applicants 2011   
    I think it really depends on what you want to do. If you want to go the academic route the traditional schools (Big ten's + BGSU & USF) are your best bet. They have the big names (SIOP Fellows) along with a tradition. If you want to go applied it matters much less. Making contacts and improving your skillset becomes much more important than the name on your diploma. Now you could argue that people from those schools will have better connections, but it is not that difficult to reach out and get the same connections. You meet them at conferences, through your professors, etc. Chances are even at the second tier schools some if not most of the faculty came from the top schools. All of the faculty at our school are from one of the "Top programs" so, you just have to go through another layer to meet the contacts.

    However, it appears as far as landing prestigious tenure track positions right out, the name on your diploma speaks a lot more strongly.
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    iopsych got a reaction from Sarapsy in August 2013 PhD I/O Psych Applicant   
    Stanford is a business program, so it is not really an I/O program. I haven't heard that great of things about Teachers College (Columbia). I rarely see stuff from them at SIOP, which to me means they aren't very active in the field or they are going to other conferences (the latter is not really an issue, but it is also not giving you much exposure to the premier I/O conference) . From what I understand they also don't offer full tuition remission and only a portion of the students get a TA or RA. So even if you do get 70-80% of your tuition waived (meaning you have to pay 2-3k per semester you still have no funding to live and you will be in NYC, where to live cheap would cost 30-40k a year. Any program that can't offer full funding to all students throws up a big red flag in my book.

    When I was looking at places to go I talked to an I/O professor at my undergrad institution and he told me to shy away from IIT. He told me they often have 15-20 students in each class and just because of #s it ends up being a sort of weed out process because 5 faculty can't successfully advise 20 students (assuming each class kept all 20 and the average student stayed for 5 years). So it ends up being a dogfight to get time with a professor. From their SIOP page it also looks as if they don't offer full funding as well.

    I don't know much about Seattle Pacific so I can't really comment on them.

    All of the other schools look good. I would check out GW. When I was applying they were an organizational psych. program with no Industrial classes. They said they were shifting the focus to a balanced I and O program, but I'm not sure if they have done this yet.

    Something to keep in mind is a PhD is a long difficult process. You don't have time for a job and often because of classes it is difficult to get any form of paid internship until your 3rd-4th year. IMO it is not worth it to go to an unfunded program. If you want to go to an unfunded program get a master's. Even in a fully funded program you often end up with some form of debt (unless you eat Ramen, live with 2-3 roommates and do not spend money on entertainment). I ended up 14k in debt at a fully funded program. That was with 13.5k/year in funding, full tuition remission, and a 12 week summer internship with the Navy where I made 1k/week.

    I would say it would be easy to rack up 80-100k in debt for a PhD even if half of the tuition was taken care of and no other source of funding was provided. That is a huge chunk of change. For this reason I would make sure they are fully funded programs.

    I was told the following by several PhDs when applying: If they don't offer you full funding it is for one of 2 reasons: 1.) Either they don't really want you, or 2.) It is not a program you want to go to.
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    iopsych got a reaction from Sarapsy in What do I/O psychologists do in the workplace?   
    They do a wide variety of things depending on the area you get involved in.

    I have been in a survey consulting role where I did a lot of attitude survey analysis and results delivery.

    Right now I am in a solutions group role where I work on a team to develop innovative solutions and aid in the delivery of these products by dealing with norming, validation, as well as providing a supporting role to the delivery consultants.

    For example, we have a new product that streamlines assessment centers for middle management. Instead of sending potential managerial candidates to an assessment center for 2-3 days you can have them complete a very similar assessment center with role plays, in-boxes, etc. through an on-line format. This brings assessment centers to new clients that in the past could not have afforded such a great tool.

    After launching it we are now working on a few issues with it. For instance, we are seeing that some international clients are scoring lower within the assessment center than their north-american counterparts. We are trying to figure out if this is because the raters in the international market are stricter, if there are cultural issues within the assessment that are causing the differences, or if they are real performance differences.
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    iopsych got a reaction from Arcadian in What do I/O psychologists do in the workplace?   
    They do a wide variety of things depending on the area you get involved in.

    I have been in a survey consulting role where I did a lot of attitude survey analysis and results delivery.

    Right now I am in a solutions group role where I work on a team to develop innovative solutions and aid in the delivery of these products by dealing with norming, validation, as well as providing a supporting role to the delivery consultants.

    For example, we have a new product that streamlines assessment centers for middle management. Instead of sending potential managerial candidates to an assessment center for 2-3 days you can have them complete a very similar assessment center with role plays, in-boxes, etc. through an on-line format. This brings assessment centers to new clients that in the past could not have afforded such a great tool.

    After launching it we are now working on a few issues with it. For instance, we are seeing that some international clients are scoring lower within the assessment center than their north-american counterparts. We are trying to figure out if this is because the raters in the international market are stricter, if there are cultural issues within the assessment that are causing the differences, or if they are real performance differences.
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    iopsych got a reaction from onoringo in Brag-time band! (I/O players)   
    Semester Applied: Fall 2007
    Major/Minor: Psychology, Minor in Business Admin.
    GPA: 3.46
    GRE: Total 1280; Quant. 720, Verbal: 560
    Internship: Yes, year long with a consulting firm doing applied research
    Research Exp. One year, applied research
    Relevant Work: 0 aside from internship
    Honors: None
    Thesis: No
    Publications: None
    Posters: Poster for Psych. Dept. Nothing Special
    Conferences: 0
    References: Three I/O PhD's from Consulting Firm, Worked with each for about a year
    Applied To: Central Michigan, Depaul, University of Missouri-STL, Saint Louis University, Clemson, Auburn, University of Central Florida,
    Accepted: Central Michigan, SLU, Auburn, UCF
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