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  1. 17 minutes ago, personallycentered said:

    What are these rankings based upon (didn't look earlier in the thread)? Usually "rankings" are based on research production, which kind of automatically relegates R2 schools.

    I'm guessing 1) rankings either based on popular systems like USWR or Times, or 2) rankings specific to their research area or specialty. As an anecdote, Teachers College at Columbia is an R2, but I would definitely consider it very well respected in the clinical/counseling psychology world. I'm not OP, so this is all guesswork lol.

  2. 40 minutes ago, meezy123 said:

    I do find it weird that there are some universities that have better rankings but are classifisied as R2 universities while some lower ranked universities are classified as R1. Which would be more important? 

    Could you provide an example of a "better ranked" university that is an R2? Not saying you're wrong, but it might be easier to explain if you have an example :)

  3. 8 hours ago, spookycat said:

    In need of advice! 

    So I have one remaining interview, and after attending other interviews and learning more about what to look for in potential programs, I have decided this program is not a good fit for me, and I don't want to go to the interview. I know the advice most times is to go anyways and see if my opinions change, but this school has some serious red flags that are coming up that I just can't imagine they can explain away at an interview. The problem is, the interview is in 4 days, and they arranged for me to stay with a graduate student while I was there.

    In addition, I could only afford to fly into a larger airport about 2 hours away, and thus will have to pay for a rental car and drive two hours to and from the interview just to get to my flights. Although my flights are nonrefundable, I could still save probably $200 by not renting a car, not to mention I could instead be at my job and not have to take more unpaid vacation time.

    I know this sounds very ungrateful, but this whole process has been so expensive and emotionally taxing, that I don't know if I should waste my time or theirs by attending the interview. I am worried that to cancel so last minute so rude that it will damage my reputation moving forward as a professional. Money and (much needed) R&R are obviously not worth this. If anyone can give me some advice, I'd really really appreciate it!

    This is SO similar to my situation that I thought we were flying to the same interview (but mine is smack dab next to a major airport so that can't be it). I'm actually in a really tight financial spot - I know folks are recommending that you attend anyways, but for some of us, that $200 savings could be the difference between making it to the end of the month comfortably vs not eating well for a week. I'm not sure what your financial situation is, but if you feel that it would be a struggle for you to make it if you went to the interview, then I wouldn't go. I just cancelled on an interview two days before it, because I knew that if I interviewed and got in I wouldn't attend that program anyways. Do what is best for you, not what is best for external appearances. You don't want to burn bridges, but I feel that as psychologists we have empathy for the fact that life happens and sometimes personal needs come first.

  4. My top choice is apparently going to let us know decisions TOMORROW. I'm freaking out. Probably won't be able to sleep and will make a fool of myself at work tomorrow. Actually, come to think of it, if they call while I'm at work I might very well have to excuse myself for the day because I will probably burst out in tears from joy or anguish.

  5. 3 hours ago, Fi19 said:

     The counseling program I was accepted into provides one course on psychopathology and has practicum sites at community mental health clinics and hospitals. I really like this program and my advisor, but I do want to work with clinical population in the future. In my case, can I worry less about the counseling vs clinical difference? Thank you!!

    It's really a program by program difference. I can think of a few VERY highly regarded counseling programs that have practicum sites at community facilities and hospitals. Moreover, YOU have the choice of what practicum sites you apply to. So if you're in a counseling program but want to work with (for example) severe mental health... you can do that! Just apply to more acute sites. Most respectable programs have connections with most of the same sites as clinical programs in the same geographic area.

    A few posters above mentioned that Clinical tends to be at hospitals and Counseling at UCCs, but this DEFINITELY varies by geographic location. In the cities I'm looking at (mainly Boston, NYC, and Philly), this is not the case at all. Counseling programs compete for the same sites as Clinical programs and are on equal footing.

    THAT SAID. Some post-doc and post-grad opportunities may have a bias for one or the other. The one that quickly comes to mind is that UCCs tend to prefer hiring LCSWs or Counseling Psych grads, but this is not a hard-and-fast rule.

  6. Go for the research if you have to choose between the two.

    If you absolutely want to add more clinical experience to your resume, do not do ABA. Look for mental health tech jobs at psychiatric hospitals or PHP/day programs. If your internship has the possibility of turning into a paid job, that's another option :)

  7. 28 minutes ago, ClinicalApplicant2019 said:

    So I, thus far, have gotten two rejections (Drexel and Duke) and have five more schools that I haven't heard a single thing from. Is there any chance I'm getting in anywhere at this point?? My hopes are pretty low by now.

    By "haven't heard a single thing from", do you mean post-interview? Did you interview anywhere? Very rare to get offers if you didn't interview, unfortunately. (Not impossible, but at schools on par with Drexel and Duke if you didn't interview you ain't getting in...)

  8. 45 minutes ago, imonfire98 said:

    do applicants generally wait till April to make decisions or do they make decisions right away? i really hope people wont hold multiple offers :(  

    As an anecdote, I'm holding multiple offers because my programs have been horrible about providing information about funding. A lot of programs (at least in the PsyD world) use March 1st as the deadline for financial aid, scholarships, and fellowships, so I'm actually still in the process of applying for funding at some of my programs. I would never accept an offer until I had full information about my funding situation, which means I'm currently holding on to more offer than I'd like to. A lot of people gripe about holding on to multiple offers, citing CUDCP's guidelines, but the guidelines do specifically state that waiting on crucial info (like funding) is a perfectly legit reason to hold offers.

  9. Just released my offer to Chestnut Hill. Great program, but lack of funding. Also, I applied for advanced standing (since I have a masters), and in order to get approved for advanced standing you essentially have to take their comps before you enroll. Nooooo thanks :)

  10. 20 minutes ago, junger said:

    Thank you! I was considering this as another option as well, but I've had a hard time finding an affordable school/institute for psychoanalysis certification so far. If you have any direction you could point me to for an affordable and reputable program, it would be greatly appreciated.

    There are so many directions to go with grad school, it's a bit overwhelming at first. 

    Check out the approved APsaA institutes :) http://www.apsa.org/approved-training-institutes

    In terms of affordability, unfortunately psychoanalysis training is pretty pricey (personal analysis is a huge chunk of the cost). Some of these places offer scholarships and a few are eligible for financial aid (Boston Graduate School of Psychoanalysis, which is not on that list but very reputable, is one such example). Actually, come to think of it, BGSP has a license-eligible masters program that is psychoanalytically oriented (https://www.bgsp.edu/academics/m-a-in-mental-health-counseling). If you complete that, you can fast track your certificate at the same institute.

    Another option is ACAP in New Jersey, which allows you to earn the certificate via distance education (all the classes are concurrent via Zoom videoconferencing). You would do clinical internships/practica in your home city.

  11. 1 hour ago, junger said:

    Do you know of any primarily psychoanalytic/psychodynamic nationally accredited masters programs in social work, counseling, or MFT? It seems a bit harder to find information about a psychodynamic orientation masters. My undergraduate GPA was not ideal due to some personal problems my freshman year (overall GPA is 3.4), so I am hoping to supplement my GPA by first getting a masters. I am still not completely positive if I want to move on to a PhD program after a master's, so I want to ensure the masters program I choose is nationally accredited. 

    At the master's level, the amount of theory-focused work you will be doing is minimal. You'll be building basic skills and can choose to operate from a particular theory if you want, but most of the coursework is not that specialized. What some of my colleagues did (and I plan on doing) was get a masters and then supplement it with a certificate in psychoanalysis.

  12. 3 minutes ago, PsychWannabee said:

    This seems like a neutral response, not indicative of anything. At least you didn't have a POI ghost you which is what happened to me... I mean I've had romantic interests ghost me... sure, but a professor I interviewed with? That's a whole different level of hurt ?

    Yeah, I was being partially facetious (and very very hopeful that embedded somewhere in there is a secret message that my acceptance is coming soon). I've had the ghost happen this cycle too, which has been super heartbreaking :(

  13. 32 minutes ago, Clinapp2017 said:

    Sure, an Ivy has the ability to bias everyone, but what is more important is seeing research productivity. I, and others, are more impressed to see someone with pubs in some high impact-factor places vs. someone with a "top tier" undergrad school on their CV but nothing else really to speak of at all. 

    I think some of what OP is noticing is confirmation bias as well - top tier undergrad schools (esp R1s) will probably have more access to productive labs and opportunities to get published. I'm attending an R3 for my masters degree (had a shit ugrad GPA), and I couldn't even find a lab to join because.... there aren't many. I had to drive to the neighboring town to participate in an R1's lab to get a couple posters to my name.

  14. Rutgers finally confirmed they don't want me xD So now I've heard back officially from all programs except William Paterson (which I know will be a rejection b/c interviews were 2 weeks ago). I have 3 more interviews next week (Mercer, Springfield, Suffolk). But I'm secretly hoping NEU will just admit me already so I don't have to travel anymore x____x

  15. 8 hours ago, Fi19 said:

    2. “What degree do you have?” - Psychologists are those who have their doctorate degrees in psychology. Perhaps you could ask “How many different types of degrees do you have?” If you really want to ask this question.

    Except school psychologists! They can practice with the specialist degree.

    To OP, it sounds like you're broadly interested in mental health professionals, not psychologists (at least, according to your answer choices to #3). You might want to change your scope. Note that "psychologist" can also refer to folks who are, for example, social psychologists or industrial/organization psychologists, who are not licensed to provide psychotherapy.

  16. It's situational, honestly. I know that my undergrad institution (R1, consistently top 5 on USWR, etc.) definitely played a part in getting into some of my master's programs and jobs/internships (several masters programs have told me this outright). To say otherwise would be frankly privileged. That said, by the time I got to applying at the PhD level I don't think anyone cares anymore. They're much more interested in my research and clinical experience.

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