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Neep reacted to SoundofSilence in How old were you when you began your PhD in psychology?
I think a lot of people don't realize how many older/ non-traditional students are out there. But we are out there And the way things are going with so much competition, we might be starting to see older and older grad students.
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Neep reacted to PsyDuck90 in LPC (or masters in counseling) after MSW/LSW ? Help with direction
Honestly, you're better off just getting post-graduate training and supervision. I'm in a psychology doctoral program, and my department has a mental health counseling masters program as well. I honestly do not know how a 2 year degree prepares anyone for clincial training. It is such a short amount of time, and the clinical supervision is what really helps in growing your clinical skills. That's also why, whether it's an MSW or LPC, you are required to get a certain number of supervised clinical hours after graduating before you can practice independently. Focus on getting that supervised training. There is no need to pay for yet another degree that may or may not make you feel any more prepared.
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Neep reacted to SageAdvice in Online MSW program and debt
I realize this is an old post, just wondering how you're liking the program so far!
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Neep got a reaction from louise86 in ONLINE MSW Programs
I fully agree with this. As long as the program is CSWE-Accreditted, i would go for cost. Licensing is pretty standard across most states.
Also, I started West Virginia University this week and so far I love it! We utilize cameras and i have even gotten invited to attend events in person (if i want) or via live camera. The classes are not usually a set time, so it is flexible. But it has been great actually seeing my classmates. I feel, so far, that the program in person is highly similar to online. In fact the same profs teach it and they use the same exact curriculum. Using Zoom has made the experience seem so in reality and not just online. I can't say enough good things, but you really need to do your research. I think with you already having a masters degree, I would highly suggest finding a much more affordable school to go to. No one really cares about the name when it comes to an MSW, they care about the accreditation. Likewise, paying more than necessary isn't going to help you out much.
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Neep got a reaction from doctormelody in ONLINE MSW Programs
I fully agree with this. As long as the program is CSWE-Accreditted, i would go for cost. Licensing is pretty standard across most states.
Also, I started West Virginia University this week and so far I love it! We utilize cameras and i have even gotten invited to attend events in person (if i want) or via live camera. The classes are not usually a set time, so it is flexible. But it has been great actually seeing my classmates. I feel, so far, that the program in person is highly similar to online. In fact the same profs teach it and they use the same exact curriculum. Using Zoom has made the experience seem so in reality and not just online. I can't say enough good things, but you really need to do your research. I think with you already having a masters degree, I would highly suggest finding a much more affordable school to go to. No one really cares about the name when it comes to an MSW, they care about the accreditation. Likewise, paying more than necessary isn't going to help you out much.
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Neep reacted to doctormelody in ONLINE MSW Programs
I would recommend looking into some cheaper schools if an online program is your only option. I did extensive research on this back in January-February of this year and the cheapest ones I found were Boise State University, University of Central Florida, West Virginia University, and Louisiana State University. But you should do your own research, too. The info is sometimes hard to find but if you sign up to receive more information from certain schools they will try and set up an appointment to call you and sell you on their school, and you can use that phone call to ask them about the tuition per credit hour as well as any other questions you may have.
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Neep got a reaction from MettaSutta in How important are school prestige and pedigree in social work hiring?
No. The name is not worth the debt, at all.
I camt seem to locate the thread but there is a post explaining why a schools name isnt worth the debt for an msw. The only thing you should be concerned with ia that it is is CSWE accredited to sit for lisencing.
No one else really cares what the certificate says. They just want that lisence.
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Neep got a reaction from Dugan1989 in Best option for dual degree - Bioethics MA
I dont know anything about bioethics, so I cannot answer to that.
I do want to drop a line and say that University of Pittsburgh is an absolutely amazing school and their MSW program is terrific! The only reason I didn't apply there is because of location and I got a little scared off with tuition. But Pitt is a great opportunity!
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Neep reacted to jarnayava in Need help cutting down my list of schools I plan to apply to...
As someone who watched my last girlfriend go to a prestigious but expensive social work program (Smith) only to come out the other end of it making just enough to pay rent and pay down her loans....I'd say go to the place that offers you money. I loved UPenn's social work program because it has a really strong restorative justice focus and at the time I wanted to go into forensic social work - but it really isn't worth it to come out with $150,000 in debt. Your earning potential really won't change much between any of these schools, or even some slightly lower-ranked schools, so my advice is to choose a program that aligns with your interests that could also realistically be paid off with a 45,000/year starting salary.
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Neep got a reaction from MettaSutta in 3 Year MSW?
Im 31 and starting my MSW in august. There is plenty of time. This one lady i know just compelted her phd and she is 60!
Anyways, i say do whatever time frame is going to compliment your current life. If part time makes it more managable, then go for the 3 year program. You gotta be able to survive day to day to get to the end goal, pushing yourself too hard may not have a positive result either. Personally i dont believe one year later with graduation is that long in the grand scheme of things. On the other hand, stretching yourself too thin to do a two year program may not be in your best interest either. If you know you are going to have to work, do the part time. You want to set yourself up for sucess
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Neep got a reaction from cherryblossoms in Is UW Seattle's MSW program worth the debt?
There is a fabulous thread on here about debt for an MSW...i cant find it but basically dont go into more debt than necessary for an MSW. Make sure it is a CSWE accreditted program. But otherwise, just get the requirement for licensing and dont worry over prestige. Its not worth the money if you have a better option
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Neep reacted to 20thavepolitics in D (suddenly) feeling intimidated by "tough" schools
It's her decision, not yours. If she's graduating from undergrad now, that means she's probably 21-22 and old enough to make that decision for herself (whether you agree or not). In all actuality, a degree from a top-name institution doesn't mean that much after you get a bachelor's. Work experience trumps a degree in many instances. Worldly experiences look good on a resume but do not determine your intellectual ability or how much you retain from such experiences. I'm currently a fourth year graduating senior at one of the most popular and largest institutions in the nation (also on a policy track). It's a hard school to get in to, the academic rigor is tough, all of that jazz. I can personally say that if she hates economics, she shouldn't be forced to do it. Micro is easy, macro is an awful crime against humanity. You should feel confident in your daughter's decision-making skills. The majority of students (myself included) will graduate with mountains of debt no matter what (even if we had fellowships from Hopkins). Let her go where SHE wants to go, not where you want her to go. She's lucky to have you to "underwrite the check", but that doesn't mean you get to decide where she goes to school (or even influence her one way or another).
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Neep got a reaction from doctormelody in Is UW Seattle's MSW program worth the debt?
There is a fabulous thread on here about debt for an MSW...i cant find it but basically dont go into more debt than necessary for an MSW. Make sure it is a CSWE accreditted program. But otherwise, just get the requirement for licensing and dont worry over prestige. Its not worth the money if you have a better option
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Neep got a reaction from Yve_ in Lehman vs Fordham MSW aadvanced standing
Honestly, i think that for the vast majority, it wont make a difference. What really matters is that your program leads to licensing in your state.
At the end of the day, i think the college matters very little. And i say this with first hand experience from the college I went to as undergrad, making the mistake of buying into this lie that it somehow made a difference because it was such an awesome school. And sure I think it was much more rigorous than many schools and compared to a lot of people I think the school really prepared me much better. However, the employers really didn't seem to care about the school. They just wanted to know that I did well and got the degree and had the experience. I think the MSW is similar. It may be different in an entirely different program, like becoming a doctor or something but in Social Work, it just really needs to be CSWE accredited.
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Neep got a reaction from doctormelody in Lehman vs Fordham MSW aadvanced standing
Honestly, i think that for the vast majority, it wont make a difference. What really matters is that your program leads to licensing in your state.
At the end of the day, i think the college matters very little. And i say this with first hand experience from the college I went to as undergrad, making the mistake of buying into this lie that it somehow made a difference because it was such an awesome school. And sure I think it was much more rigorous than many schools and compared to a lot of people I think the school really prepared me much better. However, the employers really didn't seem to care about the school. They just wanted to know that I did well and got the degree and had the experience. I think the MSW is similar. It may be different in an entirely different program, like becoming a doctor or something but in Social Work, it just really needs to be CSWE accredited.
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Neep got a reaction from doctormelody in Online MSW program and debt
I just wanted to update,
I only ended up applying WVU. Thankfully I got in.
I didn't bother applying elsewhere because of the cost. I just knew it was a no for me. Had i not gotten in to WVU I would have applied to Edinboro for next year, also because of cost.
So it looks like I will be starting this fall and i cant wait!
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Neep reacted to aykerigma in How much debt will you have upon graduation?
Hey!
Now I'm considering not going to grad school because of debt. I got accepted to a couple of schools and they offered me very little financial aid. So to go there I'd have to take out about 50k in loans. I don't have debt from my undergrad. And I think it's not such a profitable master's that it will allow me to increase my income so much as to justify this loan.
I don't know your situation, but maybe waiting and applying for Spring '20 to other less expensive schools is an option?
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Neep reacted to doctormelody in Online MSW: Am I Qualified?
This is fascinating, would you mind specifying which online schools you are talking about that employers won’t consider? I feel like as long as it’s an accredited program, it shouldn’t matter, but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.
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Neep got a reaction from doctormelody in Which MSW program to pick?
Go with the cost factor as your biggest influence. As long as it is CSWE accredited, it sucks to owe a massive amount in student loan debt. And lets be real, as long as you are licensed does anyone really care where you went?
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Neep got a reaction from doctormelody in Online MSW Programs
I used this website as my guide, that way it takes at all the guess work as far as accreditation goes.
https://www.cswe.org/Accreditation/Directory-of-Accredited-Programs/Online-and-Distance-Education
Secondly, a lot of the online programs I looked into at least have classes on the geriatric side of things. Some even offer concentrations in them. But even if they do not offer that, you have the bulk of your grad school in field work, so you could use that time to concentrate more specifically in that and use the internship period as way to gain insightful knowledge. Personally I am attending WVU's online program. They have the concentration of geriatric on-campus but I am not sure they offer it online. I do know they have several Geriatric classes you can take online as it pertains to social work though.
As for oncology, I have not found any with that specific interest (but that doesnt mean they dont exist!)
My end goal (currently) is to become a hospital SWer. So I plan on taking some social worker classes that have to deal with the medical setting. That could be where you get more of that oncology feel
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Neep reacted to Teaching Faculty Wannabe in Online Advice for Grad Students
Hi all!
I know I am just an applicant, but I wanted to share some online advice/things grad students can relate to that I found.
https://www.fastweb.com/college-search/articles/the-50-things-only-grad-students-will-understand
https://www.fastweb.com/college-search/articles/the-12-grad-school-survival-tips
I think it would be awesome if we could create a collection of online things for new grad students, or just grad students in general, here.
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Neep reacted to Jess21 in MSW Fall 2019 Decisions!!!
If the military isn’t for you. Or your waitIng my professor did the program below once she got her LCSW. She speaks very highly of it. You work in a rural area and they pay off your loans and send you a check. Also they have a program they will pay for your school and give you a monthly allowance.
https://nhsc.hrsa.gov/
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Neep reacted to Tomlinson87 in MSW Fall 2019 Decisions!!!
Would you consider commissioning in the Air Force as a clinical social worker? You could get your debt forgiven. It could also be a way to pursue a PhD debt free.
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Neep got a reaction from doctormelody in MSW Decisions
Another option could be an online program that offers in state tuition for everyone (WVU does this but I am not sure how many other programs do)
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Neep got a reaction from Msw_2019! in MSW Fall 2019 Decisions!!!
Not a chance.
I have $50k in debt from my undergrad at Penn State. I'm trying to keep it under $30K for grad school. Not so easy! My student loan payments are like a second mortgage. If j could have cut cost, you bet I would of. But I was foolish in my undergrad. The most important thing is that your program is CSWE accredited. Obviously, it is ultimately your call, but for me, I would never pay more than I absolutely had to. I learned that the hard way and regret it. Social work isnt often exactly a lucrative career either.