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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from HopefulFuture666 in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    So about Yale. I heard back from my POI. She got 400+ applications for her alone and she said I was 4th in line for an invite but that she decided to invite 3 people and she sent out those invites last week. SOOOO frustrating to be so close! Shed a few tears over this one.  Good luck to everyone!
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from PhD1Day in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    So about Yale. I heard back from my POI. She got 400+ applications for her alone and she said I was 4th in line for an invite but that she decided to invite 3 people and she sent out those invites last week. SOOOO frustrating to be so close! Shed a few tears over this one.  Good luck to everyone!
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    seeyounextyear reacted to JoePianist in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Damn, that’s legitimately brutal. Hopefully you get accepted elsewhere so that this POI regrets not extending you an invite.
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from PsychMamaof2 in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    So about Yale. I heard back from my POI. She got 400+ applications for her alone and she said I was 4th in line for an invite but that she decided to invite 3 people and she sent out those invites last week. SOOOO frustrating to be so close! Shed a few tears over this one.  Good luck to everyone!
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from higaisha in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    So about Yale. I heard back from my POI. She got 400+ applications for her alone and she said I was 4th in line for an invite but that she decided to invite 3 people and she sent out those invites last week. SOOOO frustrating to be so close! Shed a few tears over this one.  Good luck to everyone!
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from Kelso123 in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Ugh thank you so much! I had been going to her lab's meetings every week for the whole semester and then to hear this is just heartbreaking. And not to mention this is my second year applying to work with her. She said I was an alternate but everyone said yes to interview. Thank you for the kind words
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from bubbles27 in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Just emailed my POI at Yale (who I have had pretty extensive contact with in person and over zoom so I felt comfortable doing this) if all interview invites have been extended. I'll post when they respond! Gosh I'm so nervous. This is my top program and has been for years and I know they received 1,000+ applications to the Clinical Psych program - YIKES!
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    seeyounextyear reacted to EileanDonan in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    We're famous folks.
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from expensiveswimmer in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    You are right. The post (I posted) was for clinical PhD not counseling - Good catch! Don't want anyone worried for no reason
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    seeyounextyear reacted to K31D1Psych in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Indeed their response telling the person they weren't "ready for grad school" because of writing in caps and not wanting the results survey clogged up was... quite the response! ? Don't think that is quite the credential to go off of. . . Also is super ableist to tell someone they don't have what it takes "emotional-developmentally" for grad school on the internet for being frustrated about clogging up a results survey. I am saddened to see that response coming from a prospective psychologist to someone stressed. That was uncalled for. In the end I would be way more concerned about the person being ableist in response and telling them they aren't "developmentally" cut out for grad school over it than I would be over someone stressed about clogged up survey results.
    Editing to add I don't think the rules are very clear on there from the beginning, and I can't really see them anywhere.. I haven't ever posted to the results before, but I didn't even know questions and back and forth convo were against the rules there and found myself thinking about how disruptive it was. So I personally don't really blame them for posting to tell them to stop clogging it up, even if it did "break the rules" to do it. To some people it can be a real accessibility barrier. I do appreciate them posting the link to the forum so people can actually have their questions answered and check the forum because it does indeed help with the stress too. The results can appear to be the right place to ask questions if you don't know about it. Ah well. 
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from eloisetheapplicant in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    I applied to Fordham and haven't heard about if I got an interview but they sent out an email saying if you got an interview you'll know by January 19th
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from expensiveswimmer in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    I applied to Fordham and haven't heard about if I got an interview but they sent out an email saying if you got an interview you'll know by January 19th
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    seeyounextyear reacted to EileanDonan in Fall 2021 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    So a though on the topic of stress and rejections.
    I believe that a major contributing factor to the reason why some of us are having such a hard time is because this - researching, applying, and waiting for programs - has become our identity.
    This is years in the making for us. Breathing psychology and grad school aspirations since we declared our majors, all culminating in the do-or-die moment of acceptance...or rejection. If the last several years of your life have been defined by meeting these goals, then getting into a program won't just be about acceptances (or lack thereof). It will become a reckoning, an affirmation or denial of who you are. Self-perceptions are bound to warp in the process.
    Clinical psychology has developed such a competitive, crucifying paradigm, one that is on a whole other plane than literally any other type of program. Choosing this path isn't just selecting Challenge Mode for yourself, it's choosing to thread yourself through the eye of a needle.
    It's half luck, half wits, but after a certain point it's anyone's game, and a gambling one at that. Of course the pursuit of this becomes so easily all-consuming - after all, it's our future that we're betting. At least it feels that way.
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from Psyched Coffee Bean in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Hate hate hate to say it but the Registrar of the psychology department just emailed me back saying interview invites were extended yesterday
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from Goooooose in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Hate hate hate to say it but the Registrar of the psychology department just emailed me back saying interview invites were extended yesterday
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from clinicalpsych1996 in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Hate hate hate to say it but the Registrar of the psychology department just emailed me back saying interview invites were extended yesterday
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from fixology in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Hate hate hate to say it but the Registrar of the psychology department just emailed me back saying interview invites were extended yesterday
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from clinicalpsych1996 in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    All I've heard is of one person getting an invite to the in person interview after a Skype interview with their POI in mid December. If anyone knows anything else, please message me or comment. We're very impatiently waiting over here haha
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    seeyounextyear reacted to CatastrophizingNerd in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    > Anxious poster
    > Has 6 invites
    > People like me with 0 invites... ?
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from whitmanic in Fall 2020 Clinical/Counseling Interview Invites   
    To the person who posted about JJ at Yale inviting you to an interview... would you mind messaging me? I just have some questions about the type of interview you had already. Thanks and Congrats!!
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from Chugwater2020 in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Thank you... this helped me a lot. As an applicant with below the necessary research experience in my opinion, and with little hope of acceptance or even interviews, I want to thank you for your uplifting words. I hope everyone here can remember them. 
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    seeyounextyear reacted to citypsych in Clinical interview season sanity check   
    I'm ducking in to wish all applicants good luck during this interview season! I’m a faculty member, and I have now observed a number of application cycles at multiple institutions, including my own graduate program. I haven’t yet cracked the code to reducing the stress for my own trainees as they apply to doctoral programs, but because the ambiguity of the process can be the most stress-inducing, I thought I’d share some information that my trainees often find helpful. Long post ahead, and, disclaimer, the below is my opinion based on my experience and observation over the years and should not be used as the last word on the interview process.
    Things that befuddle, annoy, and/or freak out applicants during the interview season:
    Thing 1: I was not invited to interview at programs that are low on my list - now I’m really worried that I’m not competitive. (Sometimes followed by: but I got an interview at my top choice, so clearly lower list program should have interviewed me).
    Sanity check: One of the main reasons those programs were lower on your own list is because you perceived a lesser fit with them. The faculty reviewing applications also see that lesser fit compared with other applicants, and we know that a weak fit is a recipe for unhappiness for everyone! It’s not that you aren’t qualified, it’s just a fit thing combined with the number of other applicants to that program/person that year.
    Thing 2: I had stratospheric GRE scores and GPA, 28 years of RA experience, and 337 publications/presentations, but I didn’t get an interview to Program X (or any interviews).
    Sanity check: You all are a talented and successful lot with outstanding experience and evidence of productivity. Every year I am amazed by the quality of our applicant pool. There are four main possibilities here, none of which are particularly reassuring, but hopefully all of which help you think about this logically.
    First, the number one error I hear from applicants is that they assume that their stellar records will automatically assure them an interview, which is just not consistent with the numbers. Yes, you have an amazing record and application, but so do the other 300 people applying for 18 interview slots (and 5 offers) in that program this year.
    Second, applicants often apply to the “name brand” programs, seduced by perceived prestige and figuring that the strength of their scores/CVs will overcome a lack of fit. It won’t, and it shouldn’t (see comment above about unhappiness).
    Third, applicants often mistake “more” for “better”, without regard for the actual skills and knowledge. Most of us definitely are looking for quality over quantity in your CV. Middle author of 6 authors on 9 publications/presentations is good, and we like to see that level of involvement, but one 1st author paper/presentation at professional conference is more meaningful. More labs is not necessarily better than one lab with really solid breadth and depth of skills learned. In your CV and statement I’m especially looking for evidence of advanced understanding (appropriate to the level of training) of the research process and the research questions conceptually, not just a laundry list of every task you ever did as an RA.
    Fourth, and this is a tricky one - if there is something about you or your performance (e.g., in your lab) that might lead your letter writers to hedge a bit in their letters, we can read that as a red flag and, given we have the luxury of a large number of applicants, put that application off to the side. You already should be asking writers if they are willing to write “a strong letter”, rather than just a letter, and making sure to ask your mentors for feedback on where you stand with regard to the qualities of a strong applicant.
    Thing 3: Why are all of the applications due on Dec 1??
    Sanity check: This is usually a Graduate School deadline, because the relevant staff need to process the applications for all departments in the Graduate School before sending the applications to the relevant departments. Early December is a sweet spot that gives the staff time to process literally thousands of applications before the chaos of end of semester + holidays.
    Thing 4: If the applications are due Dec 1, why does it take so long to hear about interviews?? Similarly, why do some programs make interview offers early, but I don’t hear from others until much later?
    Sanity check: It is surprisingly difficult to find time for a committee to meet, so some programs find the time earlier and others later. It also takes varying amounts of time for the Graduate Schools to send applications to departments/programs. At my current institution we basically have most of them within a few days of the deadline, whereas at my last institution it usually took about 10 days to 2 weeks, which then lands faculty in the end of semester/finals, followed by the holidays. Then once we have the applications we need time to review them, which usually involves multiple faculty reviewing each of a very large number of applications. Note also that you WANT the faculty not to rush that review process.
    Thing 5: Why do these programs seem to schedule interviews on the same days??
    Sanity check: There are only so many days available for interviewing. Most programs understandably choose Mondays or Fridays, and there are far more programs than Mondays and Fridays between the end of January and the end of most (not all) interviews toward the end of February. Google CUDCP application tools (freely available calendar maintained by the Council of University Directors of Clinical Psychology, which is not connected to me in any way and is not commercial) to see the schedule of most clinical program interviews.
    Thing 6: I have an interview scheduling conflict, and I’m really worried that Program B will think I’m not interested because I can’t attend their interview.
    Sanity check: We completely understand that strong applicants will have multiple interviews (one year I had a trainee who had 13 interviews), and that there will be overlap in dates. We also understand that accepting an interview prior to our invitation isn’t a reflection of your interest in the program. We’ll do what we can to schedule an alternative informal interview in person, or via video or phone call.
    Thing 7: I wasn’t invited to interview/wasn’t given an offer, but it took a long time to get an official rejection??
    Sanity check: Mostly this is a program-level or Grad School level thing. Sending an official rejection generally is an administrative process that might be automated through the Grad School or the program, and many programs will wait until they have their list of applicants who have accepted before officially closing the applicant pool and generating rejection emails/letters. Sometimes it’s just not prioritizing the applicants, but I think that’s the minority.
    Thing 8: I wasn’t interviewed/didn’t get an offer. Can I contact the program/POI to ask for feedback on my application?
    Sanity check: This is just my opinion, but I wouldn’t. Your current mentor/PI should be able to tell you where any weaknesses are in your application, thus the only thing the applied-to program/POI could tell you was that the other applicants were a better fit, which doesn’t really help you at all. Also, and very importantly, note that faculty at some institutions are prohibited from providing such feedback given it takes only one litigious applicant to try to make the case that there was some illegal flaw in the selection process.
    Post-interview Things
    Thing 9: The interview day was 2 weeks ago. Why haven’t I heard yet?
    Sanity check: Programs want to make their offers as early and as quickly as possible (this is also why you shouldn’t contact a program post-interview about your status). Usually there needs to be another faculty/admissions committee meeting post-interview, which might take a little time to schedule, and also there might be a few remaining Zoom/Skype interviews lagging behind. We aren’t sitting on this information; once we know who we want to make offers to, we’ll be in touch immediately.
    Thing 10: I thought my interview went really well - I had great discussions and rapport with the POI and the students, and I can really see myself there, but I was rejected/waitlisted.
    Sanity check: You probably did interview really well! Unfortunately we faculty often find ourselves in the position of having fewer slots than outstanding interviewees. It’s a numbers thing, and again not necessarily a reflection on you or your interview performance.
    Thing 11: I have received multiple offers. Can I hold onto 2-3 offers for a while because it feels nice?
    Sanity check: Technically you can. But it would be extremely inconsiderate to the waitlisted applicants at the programs whose offers you don’t intend to accept. You generally would know at that point which offer you prefer, and although you still might be waiting to hear from another program, the considerate and ethical thing to do is to decline the offer(s) you know you won’t accept, and only hold one at a time.
    Thing 12: Should I buy my student host a thank you gift/card?
    Sanity check: Not at all necessary, and I wouldn’t - you have already spent enough money on interview travel! An emailed thank you is appreciated and more than enough.
    Thing 13: Should I send my POI a thank you card?
    Sanity check: Nope. Again an email is more than enough.
     
    Good luck, everyone! If this year doesn’t work out for you, don’t give up, and if it does, congratulations and best wishes with your program!
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from PsychHopeful2020 in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Thank you... this helped me a lot. As an applicant with below the necessary research experience in my opinion, and with little hope of acceptance or even interviews, I want to thank you for your uplifting words. I hope everyone here can remember them. 
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    seeyounextyear got a reaction from xxxxxxxxxx in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Thank you... this helped me a lot. As an applicant with below the necessary research experience in my opinion, and with little hope of acceptance or even interviews, I want to thank you for your uplifting words. I hope everyone here can remember them. 
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    seeyounextyear reacted to xxxxxxxxxx in Fall 2020 Clinical & Counseling PhD/PsyD   
    Hi everyone,
    1st year clinical (Ph.D.) student here. I remember being in your place around this time last year (and several years before that), and found myself reminiscing how awful all those feelings were during “application” season. The uncertainty, checking my emails at all hours of the day, comparing my stats; background/experiences to other equally competitive applicants, refreshing the stupid forums and invites pages at every minute- ALL of it.
    It took me 3 application rounds to finally be accepted, at my “dream” institution, with a PI who I “dreamed” of working with (For reference: I was rejected from this school during previous application rounds).
    All of this to say: This process isn’t easy. It’s unfair, it isn’t for the weak. However, the field is slowly changing, especially for applicants from less privileged backgrounds. Clinical Psychology has a lot of room for growth (and revamping this difficult, confusing, and oftentimes unfair application process should be a goal for the CUDCP).
    Regardless of the outcome this application season: Please do not give up. If this is what you want to do for the rest of your life, you will get in. Do not let a lack of interview invite or rejection from a program define your self-worth/potential. Remember to practice self-kindness, and understand that there are a lot (unfair) factors at play that are out of your control as an applicant.
    I’m happy to chat and give words of encouragement for those who need it. I met some awesome folks this past Spring during my interview process (and on here!) and I am forever grateful for that. I’m thinking of you all during this difficult time and process.
    — a seasoned applicant who went through this BS misery, multiple rounds. 
     
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