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5 minutes ago, emstaal said:
I have not! Maybe it was also a private link...
it was public at the time some of us saw it. After an hour or so since the time they uploaded the video, the video suddenly disappeared either became private or deleted.
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Just now, emstaal said:
I feel like any day between 4-5pm is possible since it seems like they have historically released around 4pm or so...
I feel scared and lonely lately for every single midnight (except weekends obviously) because any possible time during the midnights of where I am is the decision release time for HGSE. I can’t sleep or breathe and just want to get an answer.... I really want to get acceptance to HGSE, and hope god can pray for me that the waiting games ends with confetti on the decision letter....
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The waiting game is driving me crazy.... I think the admissions committee has definitely completed the review ( as we saw the Welcome to HGSE 2021 video) .... it’s just a matter of time when they think it is appropriate to release the decision....
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5 minutes ago, Yoobo said:
Welcome to HGSE 2021! - YouTube I saw that the HGSE just posted this video on YouTube, wondering if this signals anything?
I think it definitely signals for something!!!!
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1 hour ago, hales1013 said:
I think it's def easier to get into Penn GSE. I was rejected by Stanford a couple weeks ago as well but received scholarship from Penn. The application I submitted and the Statement of Purpose are very similar. However, it might depend on the program. But another interesting perspective is that currently among my friends who have applied for edu schools, I only know people who are admitted at Penn but not Stanford. Not sure what programs they've applied to tho.
The major comparison I wanted to make is between HGSE and Stanford. I brought Penn GSE into the conversation because it’s also a top 3 education school. But the conversation should majorly focus on HGSE and Stanford?
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When I clicked the admitted students website provided by some of you, I was redirected to the HarvardKey Website - I believe that’s what you mentioned. Let me explain - HarvardKey is the student website that requires you to have a Harvard ID to get access to it. For Harvard admits, in the offer letter, you’d be provided a HUID and you would need to use this ID to register for a HarvardKey account. I believe the ones that could be able to log into the website would mean that you had a HarvardKey account before, and this may be the reason.
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I still personally think the change of programs as well as the switch from in-person meetings & evaluations to virtual meetings & evaluations would be a more critical cause for the admissions decisions to be delayed. Of course there might be some sort of increase of numbers of applications for Ed.M. programs, but we need to keep in mind that there’s no doctoral applications which means the admissions committee doesn’t have to review around 1,000 doctoral applications and dozens/hundreds of possible Ed.M. referrals from the doctoral applications. Although the doctoral programs have a different application deadline as well as a different notification date, it still gives the committee a lot more time and flexibility to review the applications for Ed.M programs solely. This is my perspective on the cause of the delay of the results.
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3 hours ago, hales1013 said:
Not sure if it's a parallel reference, but just wanna provide another perspective. I also applied to a program at Stanford's GSE which has a similar decision release timeline of early March as advocated on their website similar to Harvard. I received my decision in late Feb. However, the program is much smaller so it might not be comparable to Harvard. They do not even accept or consider GRE this year, so perhaps people would be more inclined to apply given that everyone has the same playing field in terms of GRE stats to give it a shot. Hopefully Harvard will stick to their original decision release timeline as well.
I received my fat rejection from Stanford GSE on Feb 28. It was actually around 10 pm California time so I think the admissions officers were really trying to get the decisions out on time. Stanford’s Admissions is much much much more competitive than any other schools based on its small programs, high volume of applications, and low acceptance rate. I know a friend who went to an Ivy League for undergrad and HGSE for master’s and he got the rejection from Stanford in the same season when he was applying to HGSE.
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53 minutes ago, chaiandsushi said:
Sure!
Program/concentration: EPA (GICE)
Undergrad: private institution outside the US
GPA: 7.00/8.00 (not sure about the conversion)
GRE: didn’t submit
LORs: 2 professors and current program manager
Work ex: 2 years with Teach for India
other schools applied to: McGill (accepted), NYU (accepted), TC and UPenn (was informed I’m ineligible to apply because of my 3 year undergrad degree)
Thanks! I think your gpa in the US is 3.5 out of 4 because just need to divide by 2 to make it on a 4.0 scale. My stats is on the 2nd or 3rd page of this thread! Could you give me some thoughts regarding my stats? Thanks! Really nervous!
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31 minutes ago, McPerson said:
Interesting. So much of my stress waiting is that there's so little data from HGSE to go from. I think concentrations definitely factor in, but the program's too new so it's impossible to say how much. I'd imagine they'd want their class to be as evenly dispersed across interests as possible. If certain concentrations were overrepresented then there wouldn't be enough room in the associated classes and/or co-curricular activities. It's a resource allocation thing. Then again, it depends on the number of people who select concentrations. I personally think most people will choose a concentration, but data trumps my opinions and the available data showing national trends says it's likely most won't. If most won't then the selection would become more abstract.
Yes. The concentrations were actually the actual master’s programs at HGSE before the restructuring of the programs....didn’t pick up a concentration only means that you want to focus on the curriculum of the programs of your interest. At the end of the day it is a one year master’s program, and we are allowed to take half of the coursework outside HGSE, so I believe the concentrations are the addition of the programs while I acknowledge that it might impact the admissions decision somehow but I don’t think it matters a lot especially given the situation that it is optional for us to choose a concentration.
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30 minutes ago, McPerson said:
Started typing this earlier but had to leave for a meeting and accidentally posted it early!
There's a lot of speculation about application increases etc., so I did some research into it. I want to add this is based on a lot of assumptions, so take it with a grain of salt.
If we look at Peterson's data, then there was a 54% acceptance rate in 2020: 1700 people applied, 912 people were accepted, and 667 matriculated. Things we can extrapolate if we assume the data is correct and Harvard does not want to increase the incoming class size:
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Those numbers are representative of all the master's degrees, not individual programs
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They'll accept ~912 students for 2021 - 2022
Increase in applicants:
Despite a decrease in international graduate school applicants, there has been an increase in domestic applicants across multiple disciplines. This article from Berkeley shows a 16% increase in applicants for all master's, outlining how removing the GRE has been beneficial for many students, specifically minorities. The article does not go into which master's saw the increase. Keep in mind this data is specific to Berkeley and may not hold for all schools.
The numbers in the Berkeley report are 2x the number of applicants across many universities for the last recession, which saw an average 8.3% increase across business, engineering, and social sciences. Removing the GRE could be a leading reason.
I decided to look into the overall trends for an education master's to get a better idea of our specific field. Despite the overall applications between 2009-2019 dropping, 2017-2018 saw an enrollment increase of 3.2% for a master's in education. Basically, despite fewer applicants, master’s in education programs are accepting more people. I know this data isn't the most recent; if you can find more recent numbers please post them.
Based on recession trends compared to trends within our field, if there is an increase in applicants, it will most likely be modest (think < 10%). HGSE wants to keep the number of students the same, so the acceptance rate may modestly decrease.
Statistics across the master's programs
While it looks like there's four HGSE programs, each applicant is actually placed into one of 24 buckets based on degree + concentration. Example: an ELOE applicant with a higher education concentration won't take the spot of an ELOE applicant with an early childhood concentration.
If we use the stats from Peterson's while assuming each of the 24 options gets the same number of applicants and the programs are all the same size, then everyone will be placed in a pool of ~71 people of which ~38 will be accepted and ~28 will attend. There are so many “if”s I want to start spelling "if" "iff." The actual stats will break down differently based on popularity.
Iff HGSE application patterns follow 2019 government data on master’s in education, HGSE’s degrees ranked in popularity are this:
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ELOE
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HDE
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LDIT
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EPA (couldn’t find in the data so I’m putting it last)
And the concentrations are this:
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No Concentration
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Early Education
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Higher Education
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Arts and Learning
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Global, International, and Comparative Education
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Literacy and Languages (couldn’t find in the data so I’m putting it last)
Generalized education was the most popular subject in the data which is why I put “No Concentration” at the top. That seems weird to me because I’d assume most people applying to a master’s know exactly what they want to study.
Using the government data, you could actually create an estimate of how many more applicants will apply to which program, but that’s more math than I want to do right now.
What the government data doesn’t take into account is that HGSE is ranked No. 1 in Education Policy by U.S. News, so EPA will probably not be the least popular program. It also doesn’t take into account other nuances, like types of program-related jobs within the Boston area, whether the pandemic increased interest in pursuing LDIT due to the increase of online learning etc.
If you’re trying to figure out your chances with all the moving pieces, then this may be a good framework to start with. If anyone has stats I left out/thoughts, please post!
Agree with most of what you said, but I don’t agree with applicants being picked in 24 buckets as the definition of concentration at HGSE isn’t the one we normally mean. According to HGSE, “You also have the option to further personalize your learning at HGSE by choosing to specialize in a Concentration. While optional, HGSE’s Concentrations allow you to deepen your knowledge in a particular context or area of education through courses and co-curricular activities, ranging from applied learning experiences to professional development opportunities to speaker and networking events... The Concentrations can be combined with the Programs to create personalized pathways and signal investment in developing specific expertise”
I believe this means that the concentrations are in addition to the program, so I believe applicants are being picked majorly based on the programs they are interested in. Although the concentrations may play in a role, it is definitely not a huge thing like “24 buckets” to decide which ones to be accepted or not.
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1 hour ago, caxiatec said:
Absolutely no idea! I guess when they say "record number" it means it is significant. These are my consoling thoughts: "If they have record number applications, they will surely give record number admissions".. It consoles me. And if I am rejected this year, I could try again another year or go for other options.
I just called the admissions asking for approximate release date, and I believe the staff was just reading off the scripted response that by the end of March guaranteed and will try to release as soon as possible... I also asked her if she knows if there’s any significant increase of applications and she said HGSE doesn’t track number of applications... idk which is true now...
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8 minutes ago, hmj598 said:
I was listening to Harvard EdCast last night and they were discussing undergrad admissions being up at prestigious universities (mostly due to them getting rid of standardized testing requirements). I can only imagine it's the same for grad schools especially at a time when it's more difficult to enter the job market.
I just asked my current master’s program’s advisor who is also in charge of admissions of the program. He said that for my current program, it looks pretty normal compare to previous years, but he is also aware that some other programs have more applicants than usual. I believe it depends on different programs.
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Just now, hales1013 said:
That's an interesting perspective. Most of my Chinese friends are actually in the US. I guess it depends on the school/region. A lot of my friends who went back to China are trying to get back to the states. But it's good to know that some international students are choosing to settle down temporarily in their home country at this moment.
I want to get back to the states too (I’m still in my current master’s program), but I don’t know if it is possible given the circumstances happening in the states...
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Just now, hales1013 said:
I am international applicant although I did my undergrad in the US. I think in general there are more international applicants for graduate schools from what I know, because many international students have a hard time finding work due to covid after graduation. Additionally, continuing education in the US is one of the only ways for internationals to remain in the US if we cannot find work.
I believe many international students (at least for Chinese students), they have left the US already including myself??I have two friends who initially wanted to apply to HGSE but ended up not applying either because their parents didn’t want them to do so or just wanted to find a full-time/internship job in China at least for right now...
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Just now, caxiatec said:
Absolutely no idea! I guess when they say "record number" it means it is significant. These are my consoling thoughts: "If they have record number applications, they will surely give record number admissions".. It consoles me. And if I am rejected this year, I could try again another year or go for other options.
I wish HGSE could be more generous on admissions at least for the money’s sake?the Ed school is facing fiscal problems so please be generous with master’s applicants?
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2 minutes ago, caxiatec said:
The fact of having a record number of applications this years is confirmed. I got that information from the admissions officers, as well as an alumni who has some in-house connections. So basically, it looks like this year has it's own spice and maybe will follow an unusual trend. We keep waiting and hoping for the best.
By any chance do you know was the number a lot higher or slightly higher than previous years?
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13 minutes ago, caxiatec said:
Right now I wish I could bomb their zoom session...
What’s your thoughts regarding the number of the applications? I personally think it may remain approximately the same... I don’t think a larger number of applications would lead to a much longer waiting game... I personally lean to the reason that this is the actual first time (excluding the summer round) that the admissions committee (I think they are the faculty members) has to work together remotely to review applications, make decisions, and communicate with the admissions office. Maybe they are just slower and trying to adapt the new way of making admissions decisions...
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So no answer today?