snowblossom2
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If it's a footnote, cite as needed; if it's a "References" space at the end, it's more professional to order alphabetically
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This may be more appropriate for the admissions-related forums but does anyone have any knowledge or experience of admissions committees reversing their decision (to reject an applicant) after the applicant was awarded the NSF GRF?
I don't understand this question. Why anyone would a) reverse their decision in the first place or
esp after being awarded the NSF GRF. I've heard that if you get awarded you may get a rejection changed to admission but NEVER the other way around. Why would anyone do that? -
If you get a far more prestigious research grant delayed for the first time ever by Congressional incompetence, apparently that doesn't fit the bill. I think there may be some denial going on at Fulbright about the relative weight different grants carry in academic circles.
(For those of you who think this sounds entitled, save it. Unless you've been an Anthro or History PhD student at a public US university within the last 15 years, you have nothing to say to me.)
But is that even true re: F-H being more prestigious than a Fulbright? I had never even heard of a F-H until grad school, but applied (and become a Fulbright scholar) to Fulbright as an undergrad. I'm a PhD student in Soc and they seem to be at the same level of prestige, if F not a little bit higher. (Of course, NSF DDIG is more prestigious than both of them in my field)
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I will be applying for the 2012-2013 application cycle for the NSF GRFP, but I am concerned about the impact on future post doctoral funding. I know that certain training grants reduce the number of total years of funding, I wondered if this fellowship had similar limitations. For background, I am a first year in a Biochem PhD program.
I would not worry about that at all. If anything, an NSF GRFP could help bc it shows you can get federal funding. But pre-dissertation funding, and post-doc funding are two completely different things. Post-docs will most likely be based on your output while in grad school (e.g. publications, etc)
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It seems like its about par for the course. You are getting what every other TA in your year is getting. Like a pp said, they're not there to screw you. That's what being a TA is - going to lecture, preparing for your own section etc. Also, in my experience, most of the time no one comes to office hours. You do your own work.
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Seems like you are taking the right steps. Negotiate a time to meet, and then meet. The faculty member could probably answer your questions about a TA/RA position
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Since 2012-13 Boren fellows are listed on the website, I doubt many more, if any, alternates are going to be upgraded
http://www.borenawards.org/boren_fellowship/current_fellows.html
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I don't think it would count as "full time course work" bc you'd be finished with courses. You're still be enrolled, doing work full-time, but things other than courses. However, I would email or call Ford Foundation to be certain
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Congrats!
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Water28 - I haven't heard back, any other alternates still checking the board and can give an update?
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It seems like you are basing a lot of your assumptions of the program and how it's run by the "tone" of the faculty member. As previously mentioned, often faculty members aren't in a position to offer funding (especially in the social sciences, whereas in the natural sciences, faculty often support grad studnets via work in their lab). That doesn't seem like credible evidence. Once you are accepted, faculty want to recuit you to pick their university. That's part of the prestige of the program, not only in the number and level of talent of their applicants/admits but also in the percent of admits who actually matriculate. Your offer letter should have mentioned something about funding. And it seems like they said you were being nominated for a prestigious fellowship. As others have mentioned, that doesn't mean you automatically get it. I also am less inclined to think that you saying "no" to the question about other schools heavily recruiting you made much of a difference. The faculty on the admissions committee read through all the applications and often go through multiple rounds to whittle it down to the admits - they talk about each case. For you to be admitted means they wanted you and thought you were a good fit for the program.
To answer the question from your original post - I've never heard of a program being unethical in funding offers (of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, just I don't think it's in the program's best interest to do so for their own reputation).
Also, I agree with previous posters re: dealing with the situation. Posting the detailed information you did would make it very easy for faculty at Temple or at your own university (if they read here, I don't know if they do) to know who you are. Just a consideration as you move forward. Good luck with grad school, and I'm sorry that funding at Temple didn't work out.
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I also applied to the NSF DDIG and was asked to revise and resubmit my application in July and will hear back from them in November. That would pay for my third trip in Jan, but if I don't get it, I'll pay out of pocket (my advisor also said he might have some research funds to help me). For my summer trip, if I don't get the Boren, I received some summer funding/grants from my school that will cover my airfare and one month of housing, the rest will be paid out of my pocket (grad stipend). Not much choice other than paying for it myself since its for my dissertation
Good luck to you kbui and the rest of the awardees! I guess I should consider myself lucky to be an alternate - it seems as if the vast majority of everyone plans on having a government career, whereas I said I would fulfill my service requirement by teaching classes at the intelligence college or one of the military colleges!
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FYI - I spoke with someone on the phone and they said alternates *should* start hearing back as early as two weeks from now...
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Prestige and reputation goes a very long way. What is your long-term career plan? I suggest reading Burris, V. 2004. "The Academic Caste System: Prestige Hierarchies in PhD Exhange Networks" American Sociological Review 69:239-264
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Any alternates get any news? I'm wondering if it'll be on a rolling basis, or since decisions are supposedly due on the 7th, all at once.
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Thanks stokedchicken - will do!
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I asked and it seems that it depends on whether someone from your country/language declines, which sucks for those of us who applied to non traditional countries...
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Ah, thanks for the clarification!