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Hello all, I am relatively new to grad cafe forum, so I apologize if I come off as naive or inexperienced in my first post. I am contemplating my options for graduate school which I will begin in the near future. In regard to my background, I am a current TFA corp member who hopes to go to law school after the typical two year stint. My ultimate goal is to work as a constitutional lawyer for the appellate division of the DOJ in Las Vegas, Nevada (my hometown) and become a law firm partner, a federal judge, or a professor of constitutional law here. My first option for grad school would be to apply to Oxford for a two year Mphil in history/political science and then law school. I've already spoken to a supervisor who is very interested. My second option would be to go to Oxford for a year (if at all) and attend a joint jd mpp program preferably with hks/georgetown law. My heart tells me to go for the first option as I'm a huge history buff and it's cheaper. Also, I'm not much of a quantitative guy, and I'm told that the mpp has a strong quant component. Plus, my joint jd mpp plan is probably more expensive especially if I factor in the year at Oxford, and I would limit my options for law schools. Finally, I imagine that I could always attend hks for a midcareer masters while it would be harder to attend Oxford midcareer. At the same time, the second option seems more appealing because I think that a degree from hks would probably look better for a public service career because of the faculty (David Gergen, Roger Porter) and networking options. Am I right in this career? Which option should I chose? Would one degree look better than the other for the field I want to go into or would both be equally regarded? In any case, I am very confused and ask for your counsel. Academically and professionally, I think that I am well-qualified. I've been published, elected to Phi Beta Kappa, and won awards for my internships and academic projects. This also provided me with some food for thought.
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I'm a recent JD grad, currently clerking for a judge (two years). Legal academia, particularly clinical legal teaching, would be my dream job. Would getting an L.L.M./Ph.D./S.J.D. in law help towards obtaining such a position?I was an OK but not great student in my JD program, and I know that hiring for academia can be very elitist.
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REPUTATION OF UNIVERSITY vs PRESTIGE OF THE DEGREE?
legallyblonde posted a topic in Decisions, Decisions
Is is really that much important the reputation of the university? I have been accepted to the MALS Dartmouth, Queen's MA in Political Legal Philosophy, St. Andrews MLitt in Legal and Constitutional Studies and Sherbrooke University for the Master of Laws (LLM). So far, the advices I have received are really to go with the prestigious school - Dartmouth, Queen's St. Andrews and to not keep Sherbrooke University. However, I do believe there is a value in their degree -- LLM. It is normally quite impossible to enter in that degree without a prior law degree so I have to say that despite their lower reputation, I felt it was quite attractive to have this chance to study law at the graduate level. More particularly, if I had the chance to pursue a doctorate in law, I believe this program would be my only chance to pursue legal research or teach law later on. -
Hi, everyone! I'm an international student, and will apply for graduate programs this year. Now, I major in criminal law but I'm interested in political philosophy, and I've taken some philosophy classes to improve my philosophy background. I don't know which is more easy to apply, sjd or philosophy ma program. Hope you could give me some advice! Thanks! ps. I majored in law during my undergraduate time, and now I'm a graduate student in criminal law. And I have no plan to apply for LLM or JD.
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Hello! I'm quite new to this forum but after reading some other threads I thought this might be a great place to get the information I'm after. First a bit of backstory: I've been admitted to Michigan State's law school and I am interested pursuing graduate work in philosophy alongside that degree. I'm not a philosophy major (just a minor) so I would have to go through the master's program before starting on the Ph.D. I'm interested in MSU's program because their faculty seems to be very much focused on social and political philosophy, along with philosophy of law, which are areas of the discipline that I love working with. I've combed over the philosophy department's and the law school's website but I still have a few lingering questions. Here are my biggest questions: How hard is it to gain admittance to the master's/Ph.D. program? I meet all of the M.A.'s numbers requirements in the graduate handbook on their website but I haven't been able to find any admissions statistics. Also, what is the MSU philosophy department's reputation? And how easy would it be to gain admittance to the Ph.D. program from the master's? Any help would be greatly appreciated! I'm deciding between a couple of law schools and the ability to pursue a philosophy degree at MSU is a big draw for me over the other options that I have.
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Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone here applied to Dalhousie University particularly Schulich School of Law for Fall 2018. I was told that admissions committee would meet in May.
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Hi, This is my first time posting in the forum (hoping that I don't make any mistakes) I am currently in my final year of my law degree. As part of my final year studies, there is a dissertation module to complete and I have chosen criminology as the subject of research. Due to the nature of my degree, I am unable to find a academic supervisor in the way on-campus students are assigned to for the purpose of their dissertation. Thus, i seek advise as to how I can find some kind of help akin to academic supervision or any kind of advise on how to carry out this independent research.
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Hi, I am an undergraduate student who attends a decent public university and has a good enough GPA & LSAT score to get into a top law school at my state. I am in a fortunate enough position to not be concerned with how much money I make as long as I make above $40k (as a freelance tutor, I've been making decent amount without much time commitment). I like and am good at writing, reading, speaking, analyzing, teaching, and presenting/defending arguments. Coming from a teaching background, I know that I would love to be a Philosophy professor as well as tackle the challenging process of becoming one. Another aspect of being a professor that appeals to me is not having to be in a service sector where I may experience a lot of stress due to my clients. The only thing that shies me away from this career path is the dismal job prospect, which is between 4~15% for receiving a tenured-track position. Compounding this issue is the fact that I do not want to leave my home city, which makes this 4~15% even slimmer. As for pursuing law, I understand that this process is tough and that the job prospect is not high either–although it is better than that of pursuing professorship. So the question is, should I pursue law or becoming a professor? If law, which field should I pursue or avoid and why? I am open to any field as long as it has a reasonable job prospect and does not entail agonizing stress level (i.e. having to deal with unreasonable customers who refuse to pay or put you through mental hell). Thank you for your insight.
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So I've got kind of a unique situation and posted a very similar question over in the Economics subform, however I am also exploring PhD programs in PoliSci/IR and would like to get similar feedback on those. I'm currently a JD student at Yale Law School but I very much would like to be able to transition into academia at some point, perhaps sooner than later. While I initiated my legal education with a major focus on public policy and government work, I feel like graduate studies in a social science field would be beneficial in a number of ways including allowing me to keep the door open to teaching later on, something I'm intensely interested in doing and, given the fact that I'm already at YLS which places the most number of new law profs nationwide feel it would be good to take advantage of that and set myself on a course that would allow me to teach easily. However, aside from teaching and academia, I feel like it may still be worthwhile for a career path involving international law and foreign policy at places like the State Dept. In any case, I've decided that I'd like to at least explore the option of doing graduate studies in International Relations (which I majored in undergrad along with Economics) after I complete law school. But given that this is an entirely new idea to me that I haven't really explored much in the past, I don't know much about how the process works and right now just want to get feelers as to how an applicant with a background like mine would even be viewed and potentially what I should start thinking about right now if I want to apply in a few years. Not necessarily looking for feedback on whether this is even a worthwhile endeavor for a JD student...those conversations I will be having with professors I know who know my background and goals better, including a professor I have who did basically this exact same thing (PhD after JD). For now I'm just curious about whether I'd even be able to get into a program to make this worthwhile Background on me-- - JD student at YLS - Majored in Political Science and Economics in undergrad, graduated with a 4.0 and almost all A+'s in my Econ classes. I have decent relationships with my political science professors but only one professor that really knows me and my work well (she was my senior thesis advisor, and my senior thesis was in IR and political psychology). Neither my PoliSci nor Econ degrees were hugely quantitative so I worry about not having a quant background that may be looked for. I did get through multivariable calc in college and did excellent in my courses, but other than my senior thesis I didn't do other independent research. In addition, I went to a UC and, with large class sizes and professors that don't make teaching a priority, even though I did really well I feel like I may not have the requisites that a grad program would look for. I would have the opportunity to produce even more major research projects at YLS, however I'm not sure if a PhD program would really care about this type of work. - Haven't taken the GRE yet but i'm typically very good at standardized tests, I got 99th percentile on the LSAT, so I'm confident I could knock that out How would schools view an application from a JD student interested in teaching (perhaps, law teaching)? Does it help at all coming from YLS? Will publishing while in law school help? And how much of an impact will not having research experience in undergrad outside of a senior thesis hurt? Appreciate the feedback
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Planning on doing my Phd in intellectual property. Suggestions would be nice for various colleges which has this program..either from US or UK. What is the procedure?? How shall we choose pur research topic??
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So I've got kind of a unique situation. I'm currently a JD student at Yale Law School but I very much would like to be able to transition into academia at some point, perhaps sooner than later. While I initiated my legal education with a major focus on public policy and government work, I feel like graduate studies in a social science field would be beneficial in a number of ways including opening the door for me to transition into academia at some point as well as giving me the social science skillset that I think is becoming more and more important in technocratic policy decision-making and litigation. Most lawyers don't have this training and I think that's a definite detriment to the practice today when technology, data-driven analyses, and more complex social issues are at the forefront. In any case, I've decided that I'd like to at least explore the option of doing graduate studies in Economics (which I majored in undergrad) after I complete law school. But given that this is an entirely new idea to me that I haven't really explored much in the past, I don't know much about how the process works and right now just want to get feelers as to how an applicant with a background like mine would even be viewed and potentially what I should start thinking about right now if I want to apply in a few years. Background on me-- - JD student at YLS - Majored in Political Science and Economics in undergrad, graduated with a 4.0 and almost all A+'s in my Econ classes. However, I only have a really strong relationship with one economics professor at my school, my senior thesis was in International Relations, not economics, and I haven't really done Econ research (independently or with a professor). I also worry that my undergrad education in Econ was less than stellar. I went to a UC and, with large class sizes and professors that don't make teaching a priority, even though I did really well I feel like I may not have the requisites that a grad program would look for. Most of my classes were theory based and the only really heavy quantitative class I had was Econometrics (which I excelled in, but still) and my thesis in PoliSci was mostly qualitative. - I have done other major research projects such as my senior thesis and I have the opportunity to produce even more major research projects at YLS, however I'm not sure if an Econ program would really care about this type of work. - Haven't taken the GRE yet but i'm typically very good at standardized tests, I got 99th percentile on the LSAT, so I'm confident I could knock that out How would schools like Stanford, Berkeley, or UCLA view my application? Does it help at all coming from YLS? Will publishing while in law school help (what if I attempt to use quantitative methods)? And how much of an impact will not having econ research experience in undergrad hurt? Appreciate the feedback
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LLM vs MA? And any review of the EIUC Masters Program?
Markita95 posted a question in Questions and Answers
Hey everyone! I am a final year law student from India who will be applying for a Master's degree next year. I am interested in working in academia, and I hope to immediately become a PhD candidate after completing my Masters. I am interested in human rights, international law and international relations. I've been looking up various universities in Europe (because of living costs and fees being most accessible for me) and have found two interesting degrees: an LLM from the Geneva Academy in International Humanitarian Law & Human Rights, and the E.MA in Human Rights and Democratisation from EIUC Venice. The second program seems more tailored to my general interests, but I've found it hard to find reviews for these programs. I've got three questions: 1. Has anyone attended the European Masters Degree in Human Rights and Democratisation from EIUC Venice? If so, please let me know your opinion of the program and how well it prepares you for academia. 2. On a broader note, is a one-year master's program conducive to immediate further study as a PhD candidate? 3. For the purposes of academia, is an LLM preferred to an MA? -
Hi all, I am an undergrad majoring in Sociology and Political Science and minoring in Chinese. I am debating whether to go for a Master in Public Policy or JD in law school. I read a lot on this topic and everyone seems to be saying different things. Background Info: I am generally interested in areas of immigration, women's rights, domestic violence, human trafficking, LGBT rights, and much more into international issues. If go to law school, I would like to do immigration law or international law. If I do an MPP, I am thinking of becoming a policy/program analyst but do not know what field yet. I would like a job that balances between something I find meaningful and works to improve social justice, and pays around $60,000-$80,000 per year (do they exist?). It seems that immigration law and certain policy analyst jobs provide that sort of $, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Questions: 1. Many comments say that an MPP is very different from a JD and will give u skills a JD wont, and vice versa. What are the specific skills one will gain by doing each degree that one couldn't obtain doing the other degree? What are the advantages each have on employment? 2. I can find a lot of information about job prospects for law grads but not MPP grads. If anyone got an MPP, around what percentage of your class got jobs in related fields? How competitive is it to get a related job compared to lawyers? 3. Are there certain personality traits or working styles that would be more suitable for one type of career than the other? 4. How do the hours, work/life balance, and pay of a policy/program analyst compare with lawyers (especially immigration lawyers)? Does the average MPP grad make less, more, or equal to around $60,000-80,000 a year? Any insights would truly help. Thank you so much!
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Hello, So now I am finishing my master degree in international relations, and specializing in international security (in France). For my thesis, I would like to concentrate on something involving cyber-security, cyber-war and cyber-defense, in the United States. Does anyone have any opinions as to how to define the question? How to extract a problematic to work on? I would really appreciate any suggestions as I seem to be totally blocked. Best regards, Kaz
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As a lawyer in the international development sector, do I need to study Econometrics?
khangirlworks posted a topic in Coursework, Advising, and Exams
Hi, I am starting the MALD programme at Fletcher soon and need advise on courses to pick. I am a trained lawyer who has been working in the development sector. I am working to build a career in the international development space - working in an international agency on the legal side of things. However, I notice a lot of people in the development sector come with backgrounds in economics, finance and mathematics - which is not a strong skill of mine. My question is: do i need to take courses in econometrics, quantitative methods and related economics fiields of study ? I don't want to be impaired by my lack of ability in these subjects when it comes to jobs. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks. -
Does someone hear about Articling program?
Milan12 posted a topic in Coursework, Advising, and Exams
I am doing combined LLB/MBA course from the Ontario University.I am little concerned about how to get into the law field. Does someone hear about the Articling Program? I came to know about Articling Program conducted by Sommers and Roth Professional Corporation, Toronto (http://www.sommersandroth.com/student-program/). Will it help me to get into the law field? How is it different from Law Practice Program? Is it necessary to undergo such for courses before going for law practice? What is the duration of the course? -
Career changer law to development KCL or Warwick or surrey or soas/ucl/Amani
Shushee posted a topic in Decisions, Decisions
hello I have been practicing law for the last five years at a commercial law firm and I am now switching over to the development side with an interest in helping others to make a change. I have applied for various masters courses as I am not yet certain which area I would like to focus on. I have received offers from:- 1. Kings College of London Msc Disasters, Adaptation and Development http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgradu...nt-ma-msc.aspx Initially i applied to this course as they have a 3-6 month internship. Which i thought would be good for networking. Also the element of environment and development is becoming more important as years go by and natural resources are depleted (in my view).The more i read the course description it seems a bit too environment based and less on development. I am not sure if I will completely enjoy this course. Pros: London based network, Reputation of university Cons: less development and more environment, geography?! I made a second application for the Msc. Leadership and Development course (yet to hear back from them). Which seems less exam based and more course work. Also deals with more management issues which may be what I am looking at.http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgradu...pment-msc.aspx Pros: Essay based rather than exam based, more development 2. University of WarwickLLM International Development law and Human Rightshttp://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/current/pg/modules/ I like the fact that it has the law element in it so I won't lose out on my legal knowledge. However the downside is that living in coventry (Lemington spa) may be a tad bit boring as compared to London. Also I understand Masters degree is where one makes networks so by virtue of studying in one of the universities in London the network will be larger. Also now being a mature student I don't think i really want a campus based experience as i already had this for my undergraduate experience. But saying that it may be nice and quiet place to study. Pro: Essay based rather than exam based, Legal course Con: Campus, North Location and network 3. University of Surrey Msc Sustainable Development http://www.surrey.ac.uk/postgraduate...le-developmentI noticed university of surrey was ranked highly however I don't think many people have heard or think highly of the university just yet.Pros: sustainable development coursecons: campus based, recognition of universityI am yet to hear back from:1. Soas: Msc Development Studies 2. UCL: Msc. Social Development Practice 3. Kings: Msc. Leadership and Development course I applied to the Amani Institute for their post graduate in social innovation management. However I am not too sure about doing the course as it is not a substitute for a masters and I haven't heard very much about it.http://amaniinstitute.org/programs/p...ion-management Feel free to have a look at the descriptions and give me your thoughts. I am an international student and would appreciate your views and if you have heard anything good or bad about the respective courses. I am leaning towards KCL but just a bit worried about the course being less development and more geography -
Hey everyone, I am finishing my junior year of college this week and have been seriously considering Law school. I always thought law school was incredibly prestigious like medical school so I never thought of it as an option. After doing considerable research I noticed it wasn't that much of a stretch. I had originally wanted to complete a PhD in Sociology however as of the late I have been increasingly interested in law school, specifically family law. I want advice on what I should do now, I just bought the trilogy bible LSAT books and will have most of the summer to dedicate to them. About me: I'm currently a triple major, sociology, psychology, and criminal justice. My G.P.A. is a 3.4 but I hope to raise it to a 3.5 by graduation (obviously admissions will not see the 3.5 due to the time constraints of the application). I will have published research by my senior year (this summer), specifically in the Journal of IPV. I've presented my research at different stages on panels at ACJS as well as ASA. I have worked a full time job as a Direct Support Professional for two years while in college, as well as a Resident Assistant. I've had minimal involvement with clubs but have taken a position as a communication-manager in one less interesting groups. I am also interning at DSS this summer, although not entirely relevant. I don't want to go to the top 20 Law schools, it's pretty clear based on my GPA alone I wouldn't stand a chance, however I was wondering what sort of advice people could give to someone who just began the search and how to improve my chances of being accepted. Thank you, Anything helps!
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This came up on another thread and I thought it was a fascinating topic so I decided to start a new thread about it. I would love to hear your opinions. The poster said that federally funded public graduate schools/programs may be violating the free speech/first amendment rights of applicants if they require an interview as part of the admissions process. The argument was that if the school is a federally funded public university then they should not be interviewing applicants to determine whether the applicant is a "good fit" for the program since there is no way to do so without violating the free speech/first amendment rights of applicants. Essentially, the school is monitoring the thoughts, feelings, beliefs, etc of students to determine "good fit" which is unconstitutional. Do you believe that federally funded public universities are violating the first amendment rights of applicants by conducting the interview and/or asking for writing samples? Do you think that there is such a thing as "good fit" when it comes to federally funded public universities? Should the interview be eliminated altogether? Why or why not?
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Any 2012 TRIALS Program applicants out there?
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I'm interested in studying Economics along with Law. I will be a student at Notre Dame Law School and I was thinking about applying around to MS or MA programs in Economics after my 1L. The schools that I were thinking of are Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, GW, Tufts, NYU, Michigan, Duke, Stanford, and Columbia since Notre Dame does not have a MA/MS Economics program. Would this be wise, since it is my interest, wanted to work around government and policy, or possibly the UN< IMF, or World Bank after graduation?
