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Found 17 results

  1. newcement

    Graduate Transfer (MATS to MDiv)

    Hi all! I have been reading through the forum and have really appreciated the insight many of you have into the religious studies field and various programs. My post is a bit of a "what are my chances?" and "do you have experience with my situation?" hybrid. I am a current MA (Theological Studies) student at a local ATS-accredited seminary. I graduated with my BA in Psychology in 2011, and, after soul-searching and trying my hand in several psychology-related positions, I decided to return for a seminary degree in hopes of becoming a minister, author, and perhaps adjunct prof on the side. I am also considering the prospects of pursuing PhD studies down the road. I am now 26 credits into my MATS degree at a local, ecumenical ATS-accredited seminary and have decided to transfer for two major reasons: 1) My current seminary has a good reputation locally, but has become increasingly disintegrated. In the year I've been there, they have changed the seminary's name, revised the entirety of their curriculum, fired or lost several professors, dismissed and appointed a new dean, and are soon to change the physical location of the seminary. Many of these changes have been poorly implemented and badly communicated to the students. 2) I was serving as a volunteer ministry director for the past few years at a local independent non-denom church. Unfortunately, I experienced the two lead pastors as increasingly manipulative/abusive individuals, (garden variety pathological narcissists?), and decided to leave. After departing, I learned that a good friend (who also attended the church) was sexually molested by the aforementioned pastors. These leaders have been educated at my seminary and have mentored and taught there as well, so it has made the seminary itself a difficult place for me to be. Those things said, I still want to finish a degree and continue to pursue a ministry vocation. I find myself more at home in progressive evangelical or mainline protestant contexts and have narrowed my search for an MDiv program down to the below schools: Princeton, Vanderbilt, Emory (Candler), Wake-Forest, Union, Boston U. I am most concerned with the school accepting all (or most) of my transfer credits and hope to receive funding as well. I struggled a bit in undergrad with anxiety and depression, and ended up with a 3.4 GPA, though I had a 3.8/3.9 in my last couple semesters and a 3.7 Major GPA. When I took the GRE a few years ago, I had scores that landed me in the 88th percentile for Verbal, 61st percentile for Quantitative, and 60th percentile for Essay. My graduate GPA is 4.0. I have a publication in the works with an undergrad prof and have lots of service experience with nonprofits and churches. My questions: What are my chances of being admitted to the above schools? All of them accept transfer credit, but how likely is it that my credits will be accepted? Does anyone know the likelihood of funding for my situation? Are there any other schools you might recommend for my search? Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
  2. SemperDiscentes

    Advice on M.Div Programs

    Hello Everyone! I'm looking to apply to some M.Div programs next Fall (2019) and need some advice regarding what schools would be a good fit and what my chances would be of getting into them. I've spoken with a couple of professors at a few different schools, but I'm hoping that this forum could help fill in the gaps. My criteria are the following: 1) Generous funding (*highest priority) 2) Solid academic reputation that would increase chances of getting into a funded Phd program in Theology/Historical Theology 3) Not hostile to conservatives (I'm a progressive evangelical of sorts) 4) Not evangelical (I'm really interested in more mainline theology--Neo-Orthodoxy, Post-liberlism, etc.) 5) Not in Texas or Florida : ) Relevant Info on Myself: B.A. Liberty University - Pastoral Leadership & Biblical Exposition (w/Koine Greek Minor) - 3.8 GPA M.A. Liberty University - Executive Leadership (Business) - 3.9 GPA Research Interests: Contemporary/modern theology, existentialism, theology of Karl Barth/Emil Brunner, nature of Christian revelation, pneumatology Career Goal: professor, writer, pastor Current Career/Experience: Completed two ministry internships, substitute teacher at a high school, currently head of sales and marketing for a small start-up Current Church/Theological Affiliation: I'm attending an evangelical Presbyterian church (EPC), although my theology aligns much more with mainline Protestantism Programs I'm Interested In (order of interest): 1) Princeton Theological Seminary 2) Yale Divinity School 3) Boston University School of Theology 4) Candler School of Theology 5) Union Presbyterian Seminary
  3. Hey all, Starting this thread to help each other and let one another know where we applied, got accepted, denied or wait-listed. Also feel free to provide any other information such as funding, choosing one school over another, reasons why rejecting etc. Here is my list of applications and updates so far: USA Yale Div - MARc Philosophical Theology/Philosophy of Religion (waiting) Duke Div - MTS (accepted w/ 25% funding) - any idea how to get more? Wake Forest Div - MDiv (rejected) - was surprised to find out I was rejected BU SoT - MTS (waiting) Canada Wycliffe College (UofT) - MTS (waiting) Regent College - MTS (waiting) UK U of Oxford (Wycliffe Hall) - MTh (waiting) U of Cambridge - MPhil in Theology, Religion, and Philosophy of Religion (waiting) U Of Edinburgh - MPhil (waiting) U of St. Andrews - MTh (rejected) I'm also an international student, graduating with a B.A. in Theology from the historic Moody Bible Institute (Chicago, IL) Any ideas of funding available for international students? The idea of a loan kind of scares me. Best of luck everyone!
  4. rejectedndejected

    GRE SCORE/THEOLOGY

    What GRE score is actually required to be in the middle of the pack for the top tier of master's level theology programs? Save the smarmy, lame platitudes about "the best score is the one that represents your best efforts." That's just something people say so that they don't hurt feelings of underachievers--we all know it, but no one says it. But I'm looking for info, not sensitivity. Also, save your unwarranted advice to the effect that "the GRE is unimportant for admissions." Be that as it may, it is still a factor and I'd like the data on it, since grad programs are far less than forthcoming. Do't hijack this thread.
  5. Hey all, I'm starting to draft my statement of purpose and was wondering if any of you had any advice about the general structure of how the statement should look. It'd be great to hear any other advice as to what you believe the the essential aspects of a successful statement are Applying to sociology PhD programs and a couple of MA programs in theology, but would be happy to hear advice from those outside of these disiciplines as well. Thanks in advance!
  6. besixdouze

    Figuring out what you're qualified for

    Hi, everyone: Just wondering if there are any good resources online or elsewhere for someone to figure out what they're even qualified to do. I ask because I've reached burnout with adjuncting. I've got two terminal degrees with honors from good universities (not that that matters outside of academia) and 8 years experience in higher ed with a couple of years in government (doing human rights advocacy) and church. Because I haven't published a book yet and I don't have a PhD, I haven't had much luck finding a secure teaching job with a sustainable wage, and because I'm not ordained (yet--though I'd like to change that), I haven't had much luck finding a church positions. My plan for now is to move closer to home (I came far from family for my MFA) and work on seeing if I'm priest material/hopefully doing some chaplain-ing, but until then I need to figure out what sorts of jobs I'm eligible for that would pay the bills. My educational and professional backgrounds are in English/writing, religion/ministry and LGBTQ+ interests. Lots of teaching, lots of proofreading/editing/publishing, and ministry/activism. I used LinkedIn, Glassdoor, Indeed and various others but have not found them to be super helpful, but whether that's the platform or because my skills are not in high demand is another question. I went to the career center and spoke with a career advisor at both my master's programs' respected universities but did not find a great deal of specifics, though I received good "you're worth something and you can do it" pep talks. All ideas welcome and appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  7. ConfucianMdiv

    Apply for Harvard M.Div. as a Confucian?

    Hi everyone, I'm from China, have identified myself as a Confucian since 17 years old. I spent nearly six years in department of philosophy studying Chinese philosophy but roughly six months ago I realized that I want to do something practical to spread Confucius Teaching instead of doing academic work in a College. I think M.Div. programs offer the education I need. I hope to establish Confucian organizations ( monasteries, actually ) in future and spread Confucius Teaching to common people in China. The courses on arts of ministry are exactly what I want. Here are some details about me: Bachelor of philosophy from a TOP 10 university in China. GPA 3.6 Working on my Master of philosophy in TOP 2 university in China GPA 3.6 GRE v162 q164 awa3.5 ( I know my writing is lame but that's what I got....); TOFEL 106 One of my letter will be from a professor in Harvard religion study. Well as far as I know there's no one yet have ever applied for m.div. as a Confucian.I feel pretty thrilled yet helpless to be the first one. I've sent several emails to figure out which of those divinity schools would be willing to enroll a Confucian in m.div. and my conclusion is that 1) Harvard and Chicago University seem pretty welcome to the " Diversity" I may bring to them. 2) Yale and Boston College said that I'm "eligible" to apply, but they are not sure whether I will be fit to the programs. 3) UTS said I can try to apply but they don't think their program would be beneficial to me. So folks, I'm gonna ask the question that have been asked for hundreds of times here: Do I have a chance to make it to Harvard or Chicago University? Also: Do you guys know any other divinity school that is likely to enroll me? First timer here. I would appreciate any advice and information. Thank you!
  8. MstarTheology

    Is the MDiv or MTS better for PhD-track?

    Thank you all for your insightful answers to so many posts on this forum! I'm applying for fall 2017, and I keep seeing conflicting answers to this question: is the MDiv or the MTS/MAR/MA better for those who plan to pursue a PhD? I've heard from MDivs that theirs is the better program since you have more time to get to know your professors in the third year. I'm attracted to the field ed component of these programs and would like to gain the pastoral experience even though I don't feel called to parish ministry right now. (Of course I know the MDiv is not exclusively for parish ministers, but I wanted to be specific about that.) My mentor, on the other hand, is saying that she thinks students on the PhD track tend to get one of the two-year degrees and that I should look into field ed opportunities at the MTS-type programs if I want to scratch that itch. Why add a third year to a master's degree if I'm going to be in school for 5+ years after that anyway? I'm definitely applying to Yale and Harvard Divinity Schools, and I'm also looking into U Chicago, Duke, and Princeton Theological Seminary. I know a lot of you are in one or the other of these degree programs right now, so I'd love to hear more about what your career aspirations are and how you plan to use your degrees. Do most people stay at the same school for their PhD? Does the third year really give you a leg up? Is the MDiv generally seen as less academically rigorous than the MTS? I really appreciate your feedback!
  9. CharlieP123

    Chances for MDiv/MSW Programs

    Hello all! I am wondering if someone can help me out by giving me a better idea of my chances with a few programs. I am finding it difficult to find helpful information about grad programs. So if anyone has a better idea that would be helpful! I just graduated in May from St. Olaf College, a small liberal arts college in Minnesota. In college I studied Social Work and Religion. This year I am participating in a gap year program called Lutheran Volunteer Corps, where I live in community with other volunteers and work as a social worker at a homeless shelter. I graduated with a 3.72 GPA. I am hoping to pursue MDiv and MSW dual degree programs, specifically Yale Divinity/UConn, Princeton/Rutgers, and Chicago Theological Seminary/UChicago. I am hoping to pursue ordained ministry in the UCC in the future. Does anyone have any idea about my chances for these programs, especially the Seminaries/Div Schools I'm looking at? I'm wondering if my GPA is adequate for Ivy League seminaries. Thank you for the time!
  10. hardy1123

    MTS, MDiv, ThM Help!

    Hello, I'm writing in hopes of getting some advice regarding MTS and Mdiv programs in the US. I finished my bachelors at Brown in an unrelated field (studio art) in May of 2015 but became interested in pursuing an MTS or Mdiv after taking some coursework in theology and medieval philosophy. I am particularly interested in what I have heard called 'philosophical theology', although this designation seems a little loose; I just use it here to refer to the work of people like Plantinga, McCord Adams, MacKinnon, Alston, and Wolterstorff who borrow heavily from philosophy and don't seem too caught up with orthodoxy (maybe it's just a branch of apologetics, I'm not sure). Anyway, in pursuing this interest I found myself becoming interested in the Ministry or chaplaincy work and am now hoping to find a way to move forward with both interests simultaneously. I've been considering an MTS as this seems to be somewhere in the middle in terms of keeping open both possibilities as well as being the most well suited to someone coming from a different field (read: not knowing anything). But, I was hoping to get some advice on this... so, I have four questions. 1. For anyone who is either working towards or has completed an MTS, Mdiv, or (the mysterious) ThM: How is theology approached in these programs? For someone interested in philosophy would an advanced degree in kind maybe be a better bet? Is there wiggle room in these programs for people interested in philosophy? 2. I've been having trouble finding MTS programs other than the one at HDS, does anyone have any others they could recommend checking out? 3. Is there any coursework that might be beneficial to try before applying? 4. What's up with things like Doctor of Divinity and all those weird ones from Catholic Pontifical Universities? Thanks for your time!
  11. Dear Friends, I know many of you are looking at graduate programs and all of you want to be fully-funded. My name is Aidan Smith and I am the new Director of Recruitment at Trinity School for Ministry. I wanted to inform you that every year TSM is able to award full-tuition scholarships to students who study full-time at our residential campus in Ambridge, Pennsylvania. In fact, last year 100% of our residential, full-time campus received this benefit. For the fall 2016 semester, there are still slots available. If you are interested in applying, it is not too late! TSM applications can be found at the following link: https://www.tsm.edu/admissions. We offer a number of fully accredited degrees: Master of Divinity, Master of Arts in Religion, and Master of Sacred Theology. TSM will be accepting applications until the middle of July, so there is still time for you to join us for the fall term if you get accepted. Please feel free to contact me whenever is convenient! Our admissions office number is 724-266-3838 or we can be reached at admissions@tsm.edu. Peace, Aidan+ Trinity School for Ministry is an evangelical seminary in the Anglican tradition. In this fractured world, we desire to be a global center for Christian formation, producing outstanding leaders who can plant, renew, and grow churches that make disciples of Jesus Christ. To this end we are forming Christian leaders for mission.
  12. Johannes Climacus

    What are my chances?

    Hello, I am on track to graduate this semester from a Christian University with a degree in Christian Studies. I have decided to take the coming academic year off in order to make some money and figure out my medical situation(recently diagnosed with Bipolar 2 and unmediated at the moment). I am planning on applying to the MDiv programs at Princeton, Yale, and Duke (with Fuller as an insurance option) for the 2017 Fall semester. I was wondering how likely my chances of getting accepted into the programs would be considering my situation/credentials. Freshmen year: year long paid internship at an Evangelical Free church under the youth pastor. Two month long mission trip over the summer. Sophomore Year: Volunteered at a Chinese school helping kids after classes and part of a campus open air evangelism group. Two month long mission trip over the summer. Junior Year: Campus program dedicated to spending time with kids from bad neighborhood every Saturday. Senior Year: Spiritual Leadership position on campus, primarily focused on leading weekly Bible studies. I am going to intern with missions organization over the summer. I will be graduating with a 4.0 however I have not learnt any ancient languages and the school i attended is nothing to boast about. I am not planning on taking the GRE because if I remember correctly it is not required for any of the schools I have mentioned. Is it still advisable to take the GRE or is it a non-factor? Lastly, during my year off from school I plan to intern with a church from September to May. I will also be engaging in community services activities during this time. I was wondering if my goal to get accepted into PTS, Yale, or Duke is at likely. Furthermore, I was wondering if I should be candid about my mental illness if it comes up on applications or if I should not mention it. Thank you in advance and sorry for the long post.
  13. Hello all, I have plans to become a scholar, focusing on systematic/constructive theology, for a post-secondary/graduate institution. I am also open to ministry if things don't pan out for getting a teaching job. I applied to 8 Mainline schools (Boston U, Candler, Claremont, Chicago, Duke, PTS, Vanderbilt, Yale; all in divinity schools/schools of theology), 2 Evangelical schools (Fuller, Wheaton), and a Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) Divinity School. I applied for MTS/MA/MAR's at most schools except I went for an MDiv at Chicago and the SDA school. With my first acceptance to Emory already announced, I have begun serious contemplation of what route I should take in preparing for a PhD. Honestly, before this acceptance letter I wasn't hoping for acceptance into these other schools (I had a little above average scores like a 3.68 GPA but I was just pessimistic I suppose). Now that I got this wonderful letter, which I am ecstatic about, I have begun to realize my dilemma. I see the benefits of going denominational as follows: 1. Networking within Adventism: I could network far more thoroughly within my denomination 2. Opens door for Pastoral Ministry: I'd obtain the basic ministerial credential for service in the church just in case I don't get a teaching job at the end of my later doctoral studies 3. Great financial aid: There would be fairly good financial aid (80% scholarship) 4. Work Experience: I am likely to be a TA or RA 5. Further grounding in SDA theology: Perhaps most importantly, I'd gain a more thorough understanding of my denomination than I have in my undergraduate studies 6. Impressive Faculty: Though Adventists don't tend to be thought leaders in today's theological climate, some amazing scholars are there, most of them having credentials from top tier universities and two faculty having degrees in second-tier institutions. Under them I would get to study from a progressive SDA perspective (so far I was only trained within a more conservative tradition). In addition, they do have connections to mainline universities, particularly Claremont, and they could possibly have sway in getting me into these places. 7. An open MDiv Curriculum: Their MDiv is fairly open-ended and creative. I could essentially use my electives to specialize in an area of study and take even more courses there than I would in an MTS. I would also be able to direct my ministry classes to post-modern ministry, ministry and the arts, and other creative possibilities. I could also get special training in post-secondary research and teaching there, giving me a great foundation in methodology and practice. Bonus: I'd get to live in Southern California, which I see as the greatest place in the universe at the moment. You can see the faculty's credentials all right on this page quickly if you'd like At the same time, I would have the opportunity of a lifetime to study at Emory and would enjoy the following benefits as I see them: 1. The opportunity to study under well-known scholars 2. With a name like Emory under my belt, I would likely enjoy greater likelihood in gaining admission to a PhD program. I intend to only apply to mainline schools like the ones mentioned above (Definitely not an SDA one; an Evangelical school is a minute possibility). 3. I would gain a thorough understanding of contemporary Christian issues from an authoritative institution that houses thought leaders and widely contributes to modern scholarship 4. Broader networking opportunities to up my chances of PhD admissions and future teaching posts (This shorter list reflects both my lack of awareness of my financial aid package and my lac of familiarity with specific opportunities at Emory) I see the following possibilities: 1. Go to Emory and then go straight to a PhD 2. Go to Emory now since I'm accepted and then go to Denominational School before a PhD (Would this defeat the purpose of going to a place like Emory for reputation and connections since the SDA school degree would be my last degree?) 3. Go to Denominational School and try for a PhD immediately after. If I can't get in apply to MTS at mainline school later (But would rejecting my acceptance from Emory now doom me from being able to get into the same program later?) Just to throw in some potential possibilities that may sway your assessment: - I'm strongly considering also pursuing an MA in Philosophy before graduate school since progressive SDA theology values philosophy highly. I would apply exclusively to top tier institutions and pursue it directly before my PhD studies, which again would be in systematic/constructive theology. - It is possible that I would do an MDiv/MBA combo at the SDA school, perhaps giving me a slight edge in PhD admissions. Side question: How hard is it to get into Emory's MTS program? I ask because I'm trying to gauge my chances for the other 9 schools as I await their response. Note: I'm completely comfortable going anywhere for school, I hold no reservations learning from anywhere! P.S. I didn't want to type the SDA school name out here because it might pop up unintentionally in search engines and attract unwanted attention to my dilemma
  14. besixdouze

    Jobs for MDivs?

    Hi everyone: As of last month I'm graduated with my MDiv--however, my vocational plans (as they are wont to do) got switched around a bit. I went to div school thinking I wanted to do PhD work and then got bitten by the ministry bug. This final year--after much discernment--I decided that I felt called to the Episcopal Church (instead of the UMC in which I grew up) and am in the confirmation process. This means that I will probably need to get a Certificate in Anglican Studies to place me on the ordination track. I'm thus looking for a job that can pay rent and put food on the table until I complete confirmation and get a glowing enough recommendation from my clergy to advance me into this certificate program. I have not had much luck thus far, despite that my degree comes from a top-ranked university in my field. Likely because a lot of my experience is in the area of LGBTQ rights and my degree is in ministry. I also have experience as an administrative assistant, working in a library and as a chaplain. Any thoughts or advice? Should I look for jobs on campus at my old university? What jobs can I make an MDiv look suited for? Are there any websites that are more helpful than others with job listings? I'm starting to feel the financial pull because--since I graduated in December--I'm on a month-to-month payment plan at my apartment complex and it is blood-pressure-raisingly expensive. You have no idea how grateful I am for whatever help you can provide.
  15. Thanks4Downvoting

    Preparation for P(T)hd as I'm doing my MDiv

    If there are any of you old timers or people who are applying to PhDs or ThDs currently, I'm curious what your advice would be to someone currently going through a MDiv program about preparation for a doctorate. My research centers on conscientious objection, non-violence, and pacifism and their relation to religion in the 20th century. I'm also interested in sacrament and resistance during Vietnam War protests. With that being said: What GPA do I need to be in the running? 3.8+ seems pretty doable, but a 4.0 is probably not going to happen. There will be some A- or B+'s that creep into my transcript. I'm planning on doing 2 or 3 languages while I'm here and I've started German, will start French, and have Latin. Do you have any advice on how to prepare myself over the next 3 years to be competitive? It's early yet, but I like long-term goals. Thank you!
  16. BreBre

    Mdiv - Phd Psychology

    I have a UG in Psychology and I am about to do a Mdiv, which I really want to do in Ja. Would this greatly affect my chances of getting into a phd Psychology program abroad. Even if I have a few years counseling experience would still have to do a MA to get in? I would really appreciate any advice I can get right now. Thank you.
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