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  1. Any thoughts/tips on how to inquire about placement rates and positions for recent grads from a program? I've seen a few departments include some information about recent placements on their websites, but even that doesn't necessarily reflect the percentage very accurately. I feel a bit awkward asking a DGS the question but I also consider it quite important in making the decision between schools to get a clear picture of how the program is viewed on the job market.
  2. Hey all, Does rank correlate with placement? by that I am asking if on average does the higher ranking of a program correlate with better placement of its grads? In theory this should be true, right? like the obvious thinking is that the higher ranked a program is, the better placement its grads will have. But then there are cases that I've noticed where top 20 programs have fairly poor placement, or lower ranked schools have pretty high placement, so does it really matter? Also, I realize that you can obviously get great placement even if you go to a lower ranked program, I am talking more about on average. While I'm sure there are other examples of this, I am referring specifically to two cases, UT-Austin being ranked in the top 20 and having a fairly poor placement record and CU-Boulder being in the 40 range while having a pretty good placement record.
  3. Hello, everyone! Given the strange concern some of us have for getting a job after completing our PhD programs, I decided to undertake a friendly/nerdy investigation. Perhaps this has been done before; at any rate, I found it enlightening. Maybe it will help you too, as we reach the final stage of our decision making. How strongly do Leiter's current (2018) Philosophical Gourmet Report (PGR) rankings correlate with job placement into permanent academic positions? Rather weakly, it turns out. I contrasted the PGR data on a spreadsheet with placement data from 2017 research funded by the APA from the years 2012-2016 with some interesting results. (See below for a link to the data.) Before I report my findings, I should note a few caveats: The APA placement data reports the most recent placement status of a given graduate within the time period, so some of those in permanent academic positions are surely second- or third-year hires, given the substantial number of PhD-earners who don't get placed for a year or two. Leiter has criticized the APA-funded data for leaving out postdocs (who may have postponed a viable permanent academic position). This is good to keep in mind; however, a number of the postdocs would have applied for positions within the 2012-2016 period, which at least ameliorates the problem. I use the terms “weak” and “strong” for correlations in an intuitive rather than a technical sense. Numbers can be presented in very biased ways, especially when statistical or categorical lines in the sand are drawn. I do draw such lines, so take my categories with a grain of salt. I left out altogether universities outside the United States. Also, when a university was distinguished from its HPS (history and philosophy of science) program, I reported whichever of the two had a higher placement rate and left the other out altogether. So, for example, when calculating the PGR representation of the top 50 schools for permanent academic placement, I divided the 29 PGR-represented schools by the 45 of the top 50 which don't fall under either of these two exclusions. There are, of course, other factors to consider besides employment: publishability, raw academic opportunity (and correlation with personal interests), oddball placement factors (school X never hires from school Y), teaching/research balance, etc. This investigation is limited, but within those limits it is insightful. Without further ado, here are some of my findings about the top 63 permanent-academic-placement (PAP) schools vis-a-vis the PGR top 50. 20 of the top 63 PAP programs are PGR-unranked. These include the following: Cincinnati , Baylor, Florida, Oregon, Tennessee, Villanova, Penn St., DePaul, Catholic University of America, Vanderbilt, New Mexico, Emory, Miami, Washington, Fordham, Stony Brook, Duquesne, Georgia, USF, and Iowa. Given the top X schools for PAP, where X is a multiple of 10 between 1 and 6, PGR never includes more than 67.3% of them. Representation always declines as we approach the top of the PAP list (except moving from top 50 to top 40, but the difference is a negligible 0.4%). By the time we reach the PAP top 10, PGR only predicts half of them. There are 11 PGR-unranked schools that have PAP rates of 50% or better. (On the above list, these consist of everything from Cincinnati to New Mexico). This rate is better than that of half (25) of PGR-ranked schools. 10 PGR-ranked schools, ranging from PGR-rank 9 to 40, placed too low even to be considered by the APA study, which bottomed out at 38% PAP. These programs include UCLA, CUNY, Brown, and Duke. Only 1 of the 8 PGR “bubble” schools (Nebraska) was in the APA top 63. Important: It is true that PGR rankings do correlate more strongly with PAP into PhD-granting programs. Of the 20 high-PAP schools that are PGR-unranked, only 3 place students into PhD-granting programs at a rate of 10% or higher. By contrast, half of the PGR top 50, including the entire top 20 (minus some of the PGR-ranked schools which placed too low overall for APA consideration), place students into PhD-granting programs. Here's the link to the APA-funded study. The portion relevant to my post begins on page 43: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61qgeway2nyhr7x/APDA2017FinalReport.pdf?dl=0 Bottom line: If you're cool with teaching undergrads, PGR isn't going to be very helpful. If you strongly prefer teaching graduate courses, PGR is going to be very helpful; however, at that point you might as well just look at the APA rankings for PAP placement into PhD-granting programs. Hope this can help someone.
  4. Is anyone familiar with Ohio State's program? They have a mention for ethics in the new pgr, but looking at their placement record on their website it doesn't look strong. I realize that jobs in philosophy are very hard to come by, but most of their placements seem to be at osu itself rather than at other colleges and univesities. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something here.
  5. Hello all. I need a bit of help deciding between Mills College and Wake Forest for their English MA programs. I've spoken with both schools and will be visiting shortly. They both assure me that they place students very well into top doctoral programs and - at least for Mills - into positions outside of universities (publishing, journalism, private high schools, community colleges, and so on). But neither program seems to have or to want to cough up hard data regarding their past placements. Is this something to be concerned about? Or maybe, more pertinently, does anyone have insight into the standing and success rates of these two schools?
  6. Hey everyone! I could really use your help: I'm trying to decide on an English or Comparative Literature program and am curious as to whether any of you think that placement records are an important factor in deciding? If so, how do you determine what a good placement record is? Thirdly, why are some schools better at placing students than others? I'm finding this very confusing because strong placement records sometimes don't correspond to the school's level of prestige. For example, I noticed that at Brown's English department, only 7% of graduates in the last 4 years got tenure-track jobs. And at Rutgers, 68% of graduates went on to secure tenure-track jobs.
  7. Hi there! I am deciding between these two program and I really need some suggestions from you. I career goal is to continue to do academia which I would probably fail so my back-up plan is to become a machine learning engineer. Here are some information I know. UCLA: pros The school has a better location and reputation. Stipend 31K/year. There are several professors do stuff in machine learning. Nice climate. cons The core requirements are too theoretical: Numerical Analysis, Applied ODE/PDE. Relatively weaker networks in Industry compared to Gatech. Gatech: pros Though the home unit is math department, there is a large flexibility in selection of courses and advisors. The core requirements are very practical and useful: numerical methods, discrete algorithms, modeling and simulation, computational data analysis, high performance computing. Better connection is industry. cons life in Atlanta could be too simple. The location and reputation is just fine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Please help me out!!!!
  8. Some history grad programs list recent years' PhD graduates and what jobs they've ended up in. Is there an easier way to find out which history graduate programs have the best tenure-track job placement rates? Any sort of list or database that compiles this information?
  9. Hi everyone, This is my first post on the gradcafe site. I've read things here throughout the years but finally decided I have a question I can't find the answer to elsewhere! I am currently applying to grad (PhD) programs for Fall of 18 in Rhetoric or Communications with a focus in rhetoric. I am finishing up my applications, but I was really hoping to get more information on Michigan Technological University's PhD in Rhetoric, Theory, & Culture. I know I should just ask the program directly, but there are only so many questions I can send out before feeling like a nuisance. I am really just interested in funding (what kind of budget I could expect while there), their reputation in the field of rhetorical studies, job placement, or the experiences of any former or current students. I'm guessing the program is too obscure to get a response on here, but any information would help. Thanks y'all! --j
  10. Hi there, As a US citizen, with an undergrad in Psychology wanting to transition into the philosophy field, I have been considering distance-learning grad programs at: University of Edinburgh (Masters) http://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/postgraduate/degrees/index.php?r=site/view&id=844 Birmingham University (Masters & PhD) http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/postgraduate/courses/research/phil/philosophy.aspx My question regarding this is whether anyone knows whether or not these degrees would enable me to be hired as a professor here in the US, upon completion? My concern comes from something I've noticed about job ads for philosophy teaching positions here; most of them say something to the effect of: "Minimum qualifications: Master’s degree or higher in Philosophy prior to start date, from an accredited college or university" and sometimes they even say "from a regionally or nationally accredited college or university" Any thoughts, feedback, suggestions on this would be much appreciated! (If you have comments that aren't related to the question, but more to my considerations, those are welcome too.) --Marjorie
  11. I have a question about MSW placements--I know this is going to vary hugely by placement and program, but would love to hear from people currently in an MSW or who have completed a program. How flexible are placement days/hours? I am a wedding photographer (this is how I finance my life & education). I need to book weddings during the school year--I can't just not work for 4 semesters. But I would have to travel for all the weddings, meaning I might miss some Fridays. If I have my placement on Friday, how flexible do you think it would be for me to make up those hours on a different day?
  12. I was just looking through this article and I was amazed at how low the placement rates were for most of the schools. Is there a reason for that? Are the jobs really not there or are there other factors? I guess what I'm asking is, "how do I avoid becoming a statistic?" I've heard that getting a library job or other related job while is school is a big plus. Is there anything else I can do to improve my chances of finding professional work after graduating? http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/careers/salaries/887215-305/placements__salaries_survey_2010.html.csp Thanks so much
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