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Insider Info: Reality of Admission in Top Canadian Computer Science Graduate Programs
ESayson posted a topic in Applications
I would like to provide some information regarding the reality of getting admitted to top 5 ranked Canadian graduate schools in the Computer Science Program. I work in the field and it appears to me that many applicants are not aware of some of the basic requirements to be admitted that are not overtly stated but definitely required. Unfortunately, I am unable to reveal my university or position as I wish to remain anonymous. Most of the time, you MUST have previous degree from a top school of your country, especially for students with a degree outside of Canada/USA/UK. This is extremely crucial for international students and unless you meet this requirement, it is extremely difficult to be admitted. For most countries, you will need to be in the top 5-10 universities in your country (excluding Canada/US/UK/India). For India, UK, and Canada you will generally need to be in the top 20 universities and for the US, top 50 may be considered, however, top 20 has a greater chance of being admitted. One of the first considerations of the reviewer is the school in which you graduated and how that school ranks in your country. To elaborate, having a degree from a top university is important because this is the only sure way to prove that you are performing well academically because the teaching standard and research caliber of top schools are widely recognized and can easily be compared top Canadian universities. It is impossible for each top Canadian university to understand the teaching, grading and research standard of hundreds of thousands of universities in the world, including many in a foreign language with public and private systems and most reviewers will not dig around for information regarding unknown institutions. For example, there are some universities that give a grade of 75% or above to only one in a few thousand students, whereas another university can have a graduating average of 3.7 GPA. With variations like these, unless you graduated from a top university in your country where the general grading trend and teaching quality is recognized by the Canadian school, your chances of admission are slim to none. Furthermore, the other reason a top university is important is that reviewers want to see reference letters from colleagues or faculty they know and value the opinions of. Since most top researchers in Computer Science meet in major conferences, presentations and events around the world, they are aware of each other’s work, reputation and standards when writing and reading reference letters. Most of these outstanding members of the academic community are also positioned in top schools coinciding with the reviewer’s search applications from top schools. The top Canadian graduate programs in Computer Science receive over 1000 and sometimes even over 2000 applications per year, with three reference letters per application this is an astronomical number of letters to read. Taking this number into account, while the content of reference letters matter, the respectability of the reference writer is arguably even more important. For example, a reviewer reading 100 applications a day would have to read 300 reference letters, 100 of them may indicate that the student is in the top 10% of their program. In the end, being top 10% may not mean anything because there are too many top 10%s and it does not indicate the quality of the student or education. Moreover, there have been examples where the same reference writer indicated that three different students from the same year and class were the number one student in their class. In cases like these, reviewers go back to looking at the top universities, since the caliber of education is known, and they may know the reference writers, therefore, ensuring the letter is reliable. If you believe that there are many exceptions to the rule, consider that the admission data from the previous year from one of the top Canadians schools: only TWO offers out of more than 100 offers made were outside of the guidelines above. Of course, an excellent statement, GPA, reference letters, GRE, and English proficiency are also required even from a top university. Moreover, other factors such as publications, conference experience, research projects and work experience, other achievements are also considered, however, if you do not meet the top university requirement, you will likely need astounding achievements in the other factors to even be considered for admission. The information provided refers to research Master’s and PhD programs in top Canadian universities and does not necessarily reflect industry targeted master’s programs in Computer Science. I am happy to answer any questions or clarify any points, feel free to contact me or respond to this post.- 11 replies
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Hello, Anyone apply to the Master of Health Informatic program at the University of Toronto or the Master of Science in eHealth program at McMaster University for the Fall 2016 semester. If so, feel free to share your statistics. Please also indicate any communication you have received from the institutions including request for interviews, acceptances, and rejections. I personally applied to both programs with a 3.35 cumulative GPA and 3.7 in my final two years with two years of work experience. My first choice will be UFT. Good luck everyone! -
Anyone applying for iSchool for the Fall 2018 term? Couldn't find any active forums so I thought I would start one to discuss applications and whatnot!
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Hey, I am wondering who else has applied to the MT program at OISE! What concentration did you apply for, what teachable(s), and what did your application look like? I applied to intermediate/senior for biology & social science. I had volunteer experience in a high school and ~4.0 GPA average in my last two years.
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Hey Everyone! I haven't been able to find a thread for uoft ischool so I thought I would just start it here. I haven't heard back yet, I applied on January 31st for the program as well as OGS, I was wondering if anyone has found out if they have been accepted or rejected yet? I know they told us we would hear by the 3rd, but with that approaching so quickly I just thought it would be useful to have this forum. Best of luck to everyone! Thanks in advance for the responses!
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Hey all! I thought I'd make a topic where all of us starting at UofT this fall could connect and discuss! Program: Master of Information (iSchool) Concentration (if relevant): Library and Information Science Campus: St. George I can't wait to hear from more of you! Best of luck to all applicants!
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UofT Munk School of Global Affairs (MGA) or Graduate Institute Geneva (IHEID)??
Gumamellow posted a topic in Decisions, Decisions
I am having a very diffiecult time deciding betweent uoft MGA and graduate institute geneva (iheid) for international development major. In terms of job prospects, name value and quality of education, does anyone have insight? -
Hi all, anyone been accepted to the ECE dept. at UofT ? They started sending offers last week i guess
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Hi all, anyone been accepted to the ECE dept. at UofT ? They started sending offers last week i guess
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I have received an offer from McGill, University of Toronto, and University of Edinburgh's English Masters programs. I have to accept one of the offers by the end of next week, and I would like some input from others about which school would be better and which school would be more likely to get me into a better American PhD program. McGill Pros: I received my undergraduate education from McGill and am on good terms with the professors here. I have also been offered a $1500 RA-ship with my current supervisor, should I accept. The program is two years long, which provides some benefits in that I would have more time to prepare for a PhD program and more time to work on my Masters paper. Cons: I have been living in Montreal for the past four years and some change would be nice, much as I love the city. I am also worried that perhaps it is not prestigious enough to get into a top 10 PhD program in the States. Toronto Pros: It's probably got the best English program in the country, and there's a possibility that it is better known/recognized in the States. Also lots of interesting courses. Cons: There's no thesis option, which is a big detractor for me. Edinburgh Pros: Easily has the most interesting program to me. The most interesting courses and some very interesting professors. Also this might be the most prestigious school I got accepted to, regarding English programs (opinions on this?). Cons: I've only been to Edinburgh once so I am not actually that familiar with the city, and it was gorgeous the one time I went and I adored it but it might be a lot to get settled in a new country, get to know the professors, make friends, write a paper, and apply to PhD programs. I really want to get into a good PhD program and would love some input on which school would put me in the best situation to do so.
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Hi all, Did any graduate applicant receive an official offer from the ECE department at UofT ? (still waiting) Thanks
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Hi all, has any graduate student received an offer from the ECE department at UofT ? I'm a MSc applicant and would like to know if they started sending offers or not. Thanks
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Hi all, has any graduate student received an offer from the ECE department at U of Toronto ? Thanks
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Hello all, Should I turn down UofT for UBC if the research at UBC fits me a bit more than UofT ? (Both fully funded MSc in ECE)
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Hello all, I'm an international student who has an offer from both UofT and UBC for MSc degree in Electrical and Computer Engineering with funding. UBC's supervisor is slightly more of research fit than UofT's supervisor. Funding comes with TA duties at UBC and with none at UofT. How to base my decision between the two ?
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Hi All, Each year we organize a Summer School for senior undergraduate students. This year, the four-day fully-catered event will be from July 3rd until July 6th, inclusive. The Summer School will consist of wide-ranging talks on the theory and applications of data analytics & visualization given by program faculty and industry experts. This is a great opportunity for undergraduate students to learn about cutting-edge research in the big data science and network with subject matter experts and fellow students from other countries. We are inviting applications from exceptional students worldwide. The event is free to attend, and moreover, the successful applicant’s travel and accommodation expanses will be covered by the program. For more information or to apply, please visit http://www.lassondecreatedav.ca/ About the CREATE DAV Program The program is a multi-institution, multi-sector collaboration between York University (the lead institution), OCAD University, Concordia University and the University of Toronto, together with a number of leading Canadian high-tech companies in Toronto and Montreal focused on applications in cloud computing, digital cultures, health technology and smart cities. The goal of the DAV program is to provide opportunities for exceptional graduate students (MSc and PhD), undergraduate students and post-doctoral fellows. Students accepted into the program will receive highly competitive financial stipends and enhanced training from a collaborative group of internationally known subject matter experts in the field of data analytics and visualization in a broad range of application areas. Poster Create Dav Summer school 2018.pdf
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I love doing research, no doubt about that. I have 4 publications in international journals by the time I finished my Bachelors of which two were first-author. However, I realize the cost of a PhD - in terms of the time - that I cannot afford. Instead I have chosen Masters for probably having my last official research experience (though I am sure I would continue that independently later). So, I want to do research in Masters, but settle in the industry later as opposed to going for a PhD. With these possibly conflicting issues, I had applied to MSc at UBC and MSc AC at UofT. What do you suggest? If the UofT brand largely shadows UBC later for jobs, I would rather go there. Also, if the MSc AC included research component that is more of fundamental than applied, I would be okay. Since I would be going for a job for sure later anyhow (but applying to have my last dedicated research experience - to which I am fully committed), let me know what you would do if you were me? Thanks.
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, 2017 (edited) Hi Guys! I don't know if this is the right place to put this thread in, but I couldn't find any similar thread anywhere. So here it goes! All the Masters in Computer Science people who applied in Canadian universities converge here! Share your heart out, how you're dealing with the stress of waiting it out I know it's still early days for admits and rejects but here goes my applied list: UBC, Toronto, Alberta, Western, McMaster, Ottawa, Carletom, Windsor, Lakehead Course: Computer Science Masters in Science/ MscAC/MAC
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Is there anyone who understands the application timeline indicated on UoT website? They indicate "Applicants interested in applying to one of the Sociology graduate programs need to complete an application and pay an application fee by December 1st. They must also ensure that two referees upload letters of support by the final application deadline of December 15th. Along with the online application form, the application includes: 2 academic letters of reference, one 10-25 page writing sample, a 1-page statement of interest, academic transcripts, a curriculum vitae, and english language proficiency scores (if relevant)." But Graduate Administrator in her mail says You have until the 15th of December to upload all of your supporting documents. Does she refer deadline for my referees or other documentations such as writing sample and CV? Thank you
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What does a strong applicant to U of Toronto's iSchool (for UXD) look like?
parrot9396 posted a topic in Decisions, Decisions
I'll be applying to it in January 2018. I have a psychology and neuroscience background. I don't know what exactly they look for in applicants. I'm mostly interested in how much they care about extra-curriculars and which, and volunteer/work experience they look for. Thanks! -
Applying to Munk 2017 - also NPSIA, GSPIA, BSIA etc
justapersonwhochangednames posted a topic in Government Affairs
Hi all, I thought I'd start a thread specifically for those of us applying to Munk and other Canadian international affairs programs for fall 2017. Topic name begins with Munk simply because that's my first choice lol Applications haven't opened yet but I figured, why not Here's last cycle's thread: -
University of Toronto, checking in! Thought I'd start a thread incase anyone else is out there in the void...
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Just got accepted to the ECE dept for an MASc, and was wondering how everyone else fared - be nice to hear from future department mates. I'm an international student - kinda (Dual citizenship, but live in Europe, applied as domestic). From a relatively unknown university, ECE major, with a 90+% average, 1.5 years in a departmental research lab, 2 semesters as a TA, and some solid industry experience (2 internships + very relevant final year project with industrial partner). Have admission offers from 3 profs in the department so have to decide between them, but didn't apply to any other universities.
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The degree: English m.a. The schools: York, UofT The issues: York is offering scholarships that will cover my tuition at the least. UofT offers Nada (I will need loans). York's faculty seem more welcoming. York offers more options in terms of the degree (e.g. option to do an MRP, or thesis, or directed reading courses, etc.) while UofT is coursework only (so I will be somewhat limited I imagine to producing work along certain lines). However, a few years ago I started a grad degree at UofT but had to drop out and I have a strong urge to finish it off ffs. I think UofT is more competitive and may be more challenging but that could be a good thing? And I want to continue on to do a PhD somewhere awesome and for some reason I have this feeling that UofT would more likely put me in place to go where I want to go. The ask: please help.
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To everyone that applied to architecture, landscape architecture or urban design, did you hear anything yet? I emailed the department today. I'll post if/when I get a reply.
