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Insider Info: Reality of Admission in Top Canadian Computer Science Graduate Programs
ESayson posted a topic in Applications
I would like to provide some information regarding the reality of getting admitted to top 5 ranked Canadian graduate schools in the Computer Science Program. I work in the field and it appears to me that many applicants are not aware of some of the basic requirements to be admitted that are not overtly stated but definitely required. Unfortunately, I am unable to reveal my university or position as I wish to remain anonymous. Most of the time, you MUST have previous degree from a top school of your country, especially for students with a degree outside of Canada/USA/UK. This is extremely crucial for international students and unless you meet this requirement, it is extremely difficult to be admitted. For most countries, you will need to be in the top 5-10 universities in your country (excluding Canada/US/UK/India). For India, UK, and Canada you will generally need to be in the top 20 universities and for the US, top 50 may be considered, however, top 20 has a greater chance of being admitted. One of the first considerations of the reviewer is the school in which you graduated and how that school ranks in your country. To elaborate, having a degree from a top university is important because this is the only sure way to prove that you are performing well academically because the teaching standard and research caliber of top schools are widely recognized and can easily be compared top Canadian universities. It is impossible for each top Canadian university to understand the teaching, grading and research standard of hundreds of thousands of universities in the world, including many in a foreign language with public and private systems and most reviewers will not dig around for information regarding unknown institutions. For example, there are some universities that give a grade of 75% or above to only one in a few thousand students, whereas another university can have a graduating average of 3.7 GPA. With variations like these, unless you graduated from a top university in your country where the general grading trend and teaching quality is recognized by the Canadian school, your chances of admission are slim to none. Furthermore, the other reason a top university is important is that reviewers want to see reference letters from colleagues or faculty they know and value the opinions of. Since most top researchers in Computer Science meet in major conferences, presentations and events around the world, they are aware of each other’s work, reputation and standards when writing and reading reference letters. Most of these outstanding members of the academic community are also positioned in top schools coinciding with the reviewer’s search applications from top schools. The top Canadian graduate programs in Computer Science receive over 1000 and sometimes even over 2000 applications per year, with three reference letters per application this is an astronomical number of letters to read. Taking this number into account, while the content of reference letters matter, the respectability of the reference writer is arguably even more important. For example, a reviewer reading 100 applications a day would have to read 300 reference letters, 100 of them may indicate that the student is in the top 10% of their program. In the end, being top 10% may not mean anything because there are too many top 10%s and it does not indicate the quality of the student or education. Moreover, there have been examples where the same reference writer indicated that three different students from the same year and class were the number one student in their class. In cases like these, reviewers go back to looking at the top universities, since the caliber of education is known, and they may know the reference writers, therefore, ensuring the letter is reliable. If you believe that there are many exceptions to the rule, consider that the admission data from the previous year from one of the top Canadians schools: only TWO offers out of more than 100 offers made were outside of the guidelines above. Of course, an excellent statement, GPA, reference letters, GRE, and English proficiency are also required even from a top university. Moreover, other factors such as publications, conference experience, research projects and work experience, other achievements are also considered, however, if you do not meet the top university requirement, you will likely need astounding achievements in the other factors to even be considered for admission. The information provided refers to research Master’s and PhD programs in top Canadian universities and does not necessarily reflect industry targeted master’s programs in Computer Science. I am happy to answer any questions or clarify any points, feel free to contact me or respond to this post.- 11 replies
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hello, I am currently in my third year of my undergraduate degree and I am really interested in the MIRHR program at uoft. Hence, I was wondering if any current students or alumni's of this program can answer a few questions for me regarding the program so that it can help me in deciding whether this is something I want to purse. what average will I need to get a good shot at getting in? i saw that the website said 3.33, but im not sure if most students in the program come in with a higher GPA. How are the courses structured? Is it more like a seminar for every class? given that my undergrad is not in business or HR, how relatviely difficult do u think it will be to succeed in the courses..especially the economics one I will greatly appreciate it if anyone is able to answer any of the questions. Thank you for ur time!
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Anyone applying for iSchool for the Fall 2018 term? Couldn't find any active forums so I thought I would start one to discuss applications and whatnot!
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Hey, I am wondering who else has applied to the MT program at OISE! What concentration did you apply for, what teachable(s), and what did your application look like? I applied to intermediate/senior for biology & social science. I had volunteer experience in a high school and ~4.0 GPA average in my last two years.
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Hey Everyone! I haven't been able to find a thread for uoft ischool so I thought I would just start it here. I haven't heard back yet, I applied on January 31st for the program as well as OGS, I was wondering if anyone has found out if they have been accepted or rejected yet? I know they told us we would hear by the 3rd, but with that approaching so quickly I just thought it would be useful to have this forum. Best of luck to everyone! Thanks in advance for the responses!
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Hello everyone, I thought I would start a forum for people to ask and answer questions regarding the MIRHR graduate program at The University of Toronto for 2018. Good luck to everyone who is applying!
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This thread is for anyone applying to the Munk School of Global Affairs program for Fall 2018.
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Hello everyone! I thought to start this SSHRC-M thread for UofT. Feel free to join and let's wait it out together...!
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Fall 2017 - Master of Health Informatics University of Toronto
CoffeeAddict posted a topic in Waiting it Out
Hello everyone, Thought I would make a group for those applying to Master of Health Informatics at University of Toronto for Fall 2017. Perhaps we can keep each other updated regarding interviews, acceptances, etc. Other health informatics programs at other universities are welcome too! Good luck!- 110 replies
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Hello all, it has been 10 days since I accepted my offer at U of Toronto's ECE app. website, after which they sent me an email saying that they'll start working on my offer papers and send them to me when they're done. How long should I wait before sending them a reminder ? Thanks
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I am currently debating between UofT's MPP program and Carleton's MPPA program, however I am struggling to find someone who has completed either program. Does anyone have an opinion on either school's policy program? Does anyone know if UofT's program is heavy on the math/econ side?
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Hi, I'm debating whether I should go into CMU-Pitt CompBio PhD program or UofToronto CS for Masters, with conditional offer for PhD after completion of Masters. In short, I'm currently in UofT, working with my possibly future advisor if I were to stay. I really like my lab and my advisor, but I do feel that the UofT CS courses are not as instructive/organized/structured as CMU-Pitt ones, esp in ML and computational genomics. In point-form: UofToronto CS: pros: - like the lab/research advisor a lot - current grad students in the lab are very helpful and friendly - I'm already a UofT student - my family and friends are here cons: - courses are not as helpful and students are not as guided - may take longer to complete a PhD - not as much emails about internship/work postings in comp bio CMU-Pitt CompBio: pros: - the directors of the program seem to care a lot about the student - students seem closer to each other since they all have to take the same courses in 1st year - courses seem very structured and can give comprehensive view of the field - they also have courses on writing a journal, etc, so I would say they guide the students a lot - students get email about intern/work postings all the time cons: - I don't know what it's like working with the possible advisors/the culture of the labs. There are rotations though - away from family and friends -> this might be good thing due to less distractions Any advice is appreciated!
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Fall 2018-Master of Health Informatics University of Toronto
Coffee_Addict7860 posted a topic in Decisions, Decisions
Hello everyone, Thought I would make a group for those applying to Master of Health Informatics at University of Toronto for Fall 2018. Perhaps we can keep each other updated regarding interviews, acceptances, etc. Good luck! -
University of Alberta - MPH Environmental and Occupational Health Admission Averages
NateRiver_ posted a topic in Public Health
Hi everyone, I'm considering applying into the University of Alberta for Environmental and Occupational Health. For those who were admitted into the program what was your GPA? I'm just trying to understand what the competitive average is. Also, did you come straight from undergrad or did you work for a few years? -
Hi all, I'm currently accepted for a MSc in ECE as an international student at both UofT and UBC in Canada. I'm confused to accept one over the other. Here are some info regarding both programs: UofT: 1- GRA Funding of 41k CAD/year (from which I'll pay 23,700 CAD/year for tuition and leaving to me around 17k CAD/year for living expenses). 2- Co-supervised by two professors (one of them is well-known in the research area). 3- Research project is 70% interesting to me. UBC: 1- GRA Funding of 18k CAD/year (from which I'll pay around 5K CAD/year for tuition and leaving 13K CAD/year for living expenses). 2- Supervisor is not well-known 3- Research done with Nvidia. 4- Research project is 100% interesting to me. After finishing my MSc degree, my goal is to work in the industry in Canada. I need to know whether my funding offer meets the average funding at both programs, whether both funding offers are sufficient to fully depend on them, and please advise me which offer should I accept. Thanks!
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I love doing research, no doubt about that. I have 4 publications in international journals by the time I finished my Bachelors of which two were first-author. However, I realize the cost of a PhD - in terms of the time - that I cannot afford. Instead I have chosen Masters for probably having my last official research experience (though I am sure I would continue that independently later). So, I want to do research in Masters, but settle in the industry later as opposed to going for a PhD. With these possibly conflicting issues, I had applied to MSc at UBC and MSc AC at UofT. What do you suggest? If the UofT brand largely shadows UBC later for jobs, I would rather go there. Also, if the MSc AC included research component that is more of fundamental than applied, I would be okay. Since I would be going for a job for sure later anyhow (but applying to have my last dedicated research experience - to which I am fully committed), let me know what you would do if you were me? Thanks.
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Main different between UWO's, Uoft and McMaster MPH programs?
Littlebluealien1 posted a question in Questions and Answers
Hey guys, I am hoping someone who has attended either Uoft, UWO or McMaster for their MPH program can help provide some insight on the strengths and weaknesses of the program they attended. I am not really looking to do a thesis, but I love the idea of a practicum or cumulative project and a team oriented learning environment So what really sets these programs apart from each other? Thanks -
University of Toronto, checking in! Thought I'd start a thread incase anyone else is out there in the void...
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To everyone that applied to architecture, landscape architecture or urban design, did you hear anything yet? I emailed the department today. I'll post if/when I get a reply.
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Didn't see a thread about the MSc.Pl program at UofT. Saw someone post an acceptance this morning on the results page. Anyone else hear any news? I contacted Marija in mid February and this year she said they received over 200 applicants for approximately 30 spots. I applied on February 1 and haven't heard anything FYI.
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Anyone get into Toronto's religious studies program? Planning on visiting? I'm heading later this month for the religion, culture, politics are and am looking to touch base with other prospective students.
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I thought I would start this chat, seeing that the first round of acceptances will be given out shortly. My last years sessional gap was 3.88 also from UofT and CGPA is 3.74.I have over 3 years of government experience working at the provincial and municipal level and have done various policy based research projects with professors. Hoping to hear back soon... fingers crossed.
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Hey guys, I was wondering about who has applied to bachelor of education or teaching programs in Ontario! I have some questions: Which schools have you applied to? For what age concentration? What are your teachables? What was your GPA? What relevant experience did you have? I've applied to OISE, UOIT, and York for intermediate/senior. My teachables are biology & social science. I had a ~4.0 GPA in my last 2 years. I worked in a local high school for the past 2 years.
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Just wondering if anyone has been offered admission to msw programs in canada for advanced standing and two year applicants!
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I've never used this site before and not sure what I'm doing but I just felt like I should inform everyone that I am scared... SHITLESS! Currently looking for future careers/jobs in case I don't get accepted into the Two Year MSW program for September 2017!!!! I hope I get in but damn it looks competitive reading past forums and people's background/experience/grades, etc.
