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Just now, jillcicle said:

*Clicks on hand held recorder*

Day 472 - still no word from UVA. All is silent here. Not sure how much longer I can go on.

did you email? several folks in the mysterious-silence boat reached out the other week and found out we’re on a “semi-finalist waitlist” (whatever that means!). presumably the same for you and they can confirm! the DGA seems very friendly and is quick to reply. 

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Just now, amphilanthus said:

did you email? several folks in the mysterious-silence boat reached out the other week and found out we’re on a “semi-finalist waitlist” (whatever that means!). presumably the same for you and they can confirm! the DGA seems very friendly and is quick to reply. 

If I'm being honest I haven't emailed because I'm terrified to know - right now I don't have to make any decisions which sounds so breezy and beautiful and straightforward and I don't want a potential decision axe hanging over my head 😅 (Ridiculous, I know - it's crazy how irrational grad admits are making me act lol)

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Just now, jillcicle said:

If I'm being honest I haven't emailed because I'm terrified to know - right now I don't have to make any decisions which sounds so breezy and beautiful and straightforward and I don't want a potential decision axe hanging over my head 😅 (Ridiculous, I know - it's crazy how irrational grad admits are making me act lol)

haha, very fair! I definitely know how this process makes the most irrational things make perfect sense. pretend I said nothing, then! schrödinger’s waitlist. 

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Okay, I heard back from the grad program coordinator at Davis! He was very friendly and helpful, and even gave me a few direct quotes from the Adcomm. Ultimately, there wasn’t much to work on—he said that my app was highly rated by all 3 profs,  the comments were almost entirely positive, and that they thought my WS was “very competently written” and “strong,” but not as interesting as some other applicants, and that they think I would probably benefit from getting my MA. The transparency and clarity of his email makes me feel better about the denial letter, and encourages me that the Adcomm had positive feelings about my app as a whole! Might look to get this kind of feedback from other schools. 

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So I've been officially accepted by SIUC with funding (the letter has some weird wording that I am trying to decipher), and have emailed Nebraska to see where they're at after the first round offer deadline. I mentioned to Nebraska that I'd been accepted with funding elsewhere, but holding off notifying them in hopes UNL funding would come through. Did I just overstep or say something stupid? 👀😶

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14 minutes ago, victoriansimpkins said:

So I've been officially accepted by SIUC with funding (the letter has some weird wording that I am trying to decipher), and have emailed Nebraska to see where they're at after the first round offer deadline. I mentioned to Nebraska that I'd been accepted with funding elsewhere, but holding off notifying them in hopes UNL funding would come through. Did I just overstep or say something stupid? 👀😶

Congratulations on the acceptance! I don't think you overstepped. And this is just my opinion, but it sounds like you were letting Nebraska know that you are still very much interested in their program, but that you also have an offer that, presumably, you need to give a yes or no to by April 15th. It won't speed up their process, but they know you are seriously considering their offer. I don't know if I answered that well. Were you wait listed by Nebraska?

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29 minutes ago, kd1990 said:

Congratulations on the acceptance! I don't think you overstepped. And this is just my opinion, but it sounds like you were letting Nebraska know that you are still very much interested in their program, but that you also have an offer that, presumably, you need to give a yes or no to by April 15th. It won't speed up their process, but they know you are seriously considering their offer. I don't know if I answered that well. Were you wait listed by Nebraska?

I was admitted to Nebraska, but waitlisted for funding. They said there's at least one person before me left on the waitlist, and that they're just not sure yet which way it'll go. 

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Made an account for this and it’s probably a long shot, but I might as well ask anyway. I’ve been applying to English MA and Creative Writing MFAs this round- I think I’m shut out of the MFAs (which I expected) and got acceptances from SUNY Albany, SUNY Binghamton and Brandeis for the MAs. The only other MA I was able to apply to (for Reasons) was Penn State, which is the the only one that’s funded. 

If anyone knows anything about what’s going on with Penn State, I’d be eternally grateful to know. I see they’re doing things way differently this year and while I think it’s a great fit for me, I’ve got no idea what this radio silence means when everything about their notifications seems strange this year. Thanks in advance!! 

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Anyone else frustrated by some of these schools still not having finished going through applications, yet their visit weekends are happening? No idea if I'm accepted or rejected at two places still working through applications, and their visits are fast approaching.

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2 hours ago, Bopie5 said:

Okay, I heard back from the grad program coordinator at Davis! He was very friendly and helpful, and even gave me a few direct quotes from the Adcomm. Ultimately, there wasn’t much to work on—he said that my app was highly rated by all 3 profs,  the comments were almost entirely positive, and that they thought my WS was “very competently written” and “strong,” but not as interesting as some other applicants, and that they think I would probably benefit from getting my MA. The transparency and clarity of his email makes me feel better about the denial letter, and encourages me that the Adcomm had positive feelings about my app as a whole! Might look to get this kind of feedback from other schools. 

Who was the correct person to email? I emailed Alberta for feedback and it was nice to hear something direct about my application. I know I am going to UCSC at this point, but it's hard to pass up a chance to hear why I was rejected somewhere. Am I a masochist? 

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Just now, Matthew3957 said:

Who was the correct person to email? I emailed Alberta for feedback and it was nice to hear something direct about my application. I know I am going to UCSC at this point, but it's hard to pass up a chance to hear why I was rejected somewhere. Am I a masochist? 

I emailed both Aaron Barstow and Andi Carr in one email and heard back from Aaron Barstow! They're both listed as Graduate Program Coordinators, so I'm not sure whether Aaron is the right person, or if he was just the person who got to my email.

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i'm a masochist and emailed them for feedback. i explained that because i'm passionate about my project and i'm hoping to present parts of my writing sample at conferences, the feedback is invaluable :)

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FYI for everyone--I emailed most of my schools asking for feedback. Davis has given feedback, the program coordinator at UCSB said she'd contact the Adcomms for me, and the coordinator at Michigan said that they aren't able to give feedback due to high volume of apps. Waiting to hear from Northwestern, decided not to reach out to Stanford, Chicago, or Columbia.

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19 hours ago, victoriansimpkins said:

So I've been officially accepted by SIUC with funding (the letter has some weird wording that I am trying to decipher), and have emailed Nebraska to see where they're at after the first round offer deadline. I mentioned to Nebraska that I'd been accepted with funding elsewhere, but holding off notifying them in hopes UNL funding would come through. Did I just overstep or say something stupid? 👀😶

Hey there! So I applied PhD CNF and am admitted/waitlisted for funding at UNL. I didn't tell them I have a funded offer elsewhere but when I checked in with some questions they asked to be kept in the loop about my other offers so they could "try" to rush a funding decision since the faculty "remain very excited" about my application. They didn't give me an exact position on the waitlist but I felt it was promising and shared my other offers and should hear back in a few days. I'd say you didn't overstep! 

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Helpful information:

1) UCSB, Michigan, and Northwestern all have a policy not to offer feedback (citing volume of apps received)

2) UCSB's adcomm chair told me that this year they had around 200 applicants for 6-8 positions.

3) Michigan's director of graduate studies said that admission is very competitive, and "historically only 8-10% of applicants are offered admission"

4) Aaron Barstow from UC Davis said they had 156 applicants this year; didn't say how many offers were made. 

Hope this is helpful in getting a sense of the lay of the land!

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Okay, I have a potentially stupid question, but my family doesn't come from academia, and my school doesn't do much to help undergrads get to conferences, so, with the potential of looking like a fool, here I go!

Is it gucci or taboo to submit an abstract to multiple conferences? Is simultaneous submission a concept in conferences/presentations, or should I not submit an abstract to a second conference if it's in review for a first? Obviously I would tailor the abstract to fit the emphases of the particular conference regardless.

Similarly, if you've given a paper as a presentation at a conference, can you still submit it for publication in an academic journal? Or vice versa?

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19 minutes ago, Bopie5 said:

Okay, I have a potentially stupid question, but my family doesn't come from academia, and my school doesn't do much to help undergrads get to conferences, so, with the potential of looking like a fool, here I go!

Is it gucci or taboo to submit an abstract to multiple conferences? Is simultaneous submission a concept in conferences/presentations, or should I not submit an abstract to a second conference if it's in review for a first? Obviously I would tailor the abstract to fit the emphases of the particular conference regardless.

Similarly, if you've given a paper as a presentation at a conference, can you still submit it for publication in an academic journal? Or vice versa?

Totally fine to submit the same abstract to multiple conferences. It *is* taboo to give the same paper at multiple conferences, although there is literally no oversight on that.

I'm not sure about the second question. HOWEVER a conference paper is usually 7 pages, and a journal article is typically much longer and much more evidence-heavy, so I think it would be hard to use the same paper for those 2 things. I've seen articles where the author has said "this paper was originally presented at such and such conference" but those are usually late-career academics who can get away with such things.

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Just now, StamfordCat said:

Totally fine to submit the same abstract to multiple conferences. It *is* taboo to give the same paper at multiple conferences, although there is literally no oversight on that.

I'm not sure about the second question. HOWEVER a conference paper is usually 7 pages, and a journal article is typically much longer and much more evidence-heavy, so I think it would be hard to use the same paper for those 2 things. I've seen articles where the author has said "this paper was originally presented at such and such conference" but those are usually late-career academics who can get away with such things.

Thank you thank you! This is so helpful. Definitely wanna avoid any taboos, and good to know that I can submit same/similar abstracts.

For context, I'm presenting a paper at a conference (an abridged/revised/narrowed version of a 15 page literary analysis I wrote), and was wondering if that paper is now functionally "dead." Similarly, I'm having a paper published, and was wondering if I could ever present a version of it, or if it was also donezo! 

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29 minutes ago, Bopie5 said:

Thank you thank you! This is so helpful. Definitely wanna avoid any taboos, and good to know that I can submit same/similar abstracts.

For context, I'm presenting a paper at a conference (an abridged/revised/narrowed version of a 15 page literary analysis I wrote), and was wondering if that paper is now functionally "dead." Similarly, I'm having a paper published, and was wondering if I could ever present a version of it, or if it was also donezo! 

You can definitely take a conference paper and eventually expand it into an article. The article can later be modified/changed/etc into a book chapter. None of this is necessary, of course (a conference paper might be only ever that), but once you get to know someone's work well, you'll see that most scholars are often working through ideas in this way. It makes sense-- you often might not get an idea quite right on the first try, but will get it to the form you want as you keep working at it. Alternately, if you're working on a theoretical problem, you might see someone using different texts/frameworks for that problem over a period of time, going through the same working-out process until they eventually publish a book (or, occasionally, a single very important article) that has a crystalized version of that problem/etc.

As for the other way-- article to presentation-- that's a bit less common, if only because there's some assumption that if you're publishing something on, say, Emily Dickinson, most Emily Dickinson scholars (who, presumably, would be most interested in your presentation) will be keeping up on the current issues of whatever that journal is, and it'd be a bit strange for you to chop it down and repeat something they've already read. However, what I said above still applies: if you're working through a particular thought or issue, (say, looking at the materiality of Dickinson's manuscripts or something), you can work through whatever you published into a new form that is refined or changed or takes up different material or the same material differently than before. 

 

Hope that helps!

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@urbanfarmer Thank you thank you! This makes a ton of sense, and helps me conceptualize everything in much clearer ways. There's definitely a learning curve here--my undergrad is a small, liberal arts, teaching-focused institution, so the conference/publishing elements of our discipline aren't really taught or emphasized very much. Thank you for your help ☺️

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Actually, I hate to be using this account just to ask questions, but as someone who’s contemplating staying home and reapplying next year if I don’t get any funded offers...

None of my mentors had English MAs (all Creative Writing professors and non-academics), and I didn’t do a lot of the things I see mentioned in this thread as things typical of an applicant because I didn’t know they were typical of applicants. I didn’t do an Honors Thesis because I graduated early for financial/personal reasons (I would have needed to stay a full senior year), and I’ve never been able to attend or present at a conference- the time I would have used for research ended up being used on internships and jobs, and my university didn’t have many opportunities for humanities research for undergrads.

Did I miss out on my shot for a funded MA by not doing these things? Should I have never thought I could get into one without it in the first place? It seems like it was way more important of a factor than I thought. I only applied to standalone MAs, not MA/PhDs. 

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4 minutes ago, vollie said:

Actually, I hate to be using this account just to ask questions, but as someone who’s contemplating staying home and reapplying next year if I don’t get any funded offers...

None of my mentors had English MAs (all Creative Writing professors and non-academics), and I didn’t do a lot of the things I see mentioned in this thread as things typical of an applicant because I didn’t know they were typical of applicants. I didn’t do an Honors Thesis because I graduated early for financial/personal reasons (I would have needed to stay a full senior year), and I’ve never been able to attend or present at a conference- the time I would have used for research ended up being used on internships and jobs, and my university didn’t have many opportunities for humanities research for undergrads.

Did I miss out on my shot for a funded MA by not doing these things? Should I have never thought I could get into one without it in the first place? It seems like it was way more important of a factor than I thought. I only applied to standalone MAs, not MA/PhDs. 

I don't think so, at all. I got into several funded MAs a few years ago without first having conferences, or an honors thesis, etc. I worked hard during my MA to go to conferences, write a thesis, and eventually published one of my thesis chapters in a good journal in my field. Don't compare your timeline to anyone else's!! That's my biggest piece of advice. 

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