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2 hours ago, fordlandia said:

Similar question to @historygeek - since this is my first application cycle, I'm unfamiliar with how one should let a department know that they are accepting/rejecting an offer. Is there a broader thread that is useful on this subject - the search topic for this particular forum is failing me?

Way too much thought being put into this. The message @historygeek wrote is a fine example if you are declining. 

If you are accepting, usually you just email the department head letting them know and asking what you need to do moving forward. 

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4 hours ago, historygeek said:

the HiLi program

I'm not that sure about HiLi, but if the admission notification you are responding to is standard and official rather than a personal email from your POI/DGS, in the online application system there is supposed to be something you click on to officially decline the offer. I remember attempting to decline my Columbia MA offer via email then the administration staff responded with something along the lines of "please log onto the application portal and blah blah blah". If you want to let your POIs know that you appreciate their consideration, then the email you've written looks very formal to me. Are you trying to decline the offer by sending this response or are you trying to let your POIs know about it? I remember the emails I wrote to my POIs are a lot more..mhm... personal? I wrote first to my POIs and told them I'd be attending another (my current) program, thanked them for the advice they'd offered during the application process, and let them know I look forward to meeting them in the future etc. Then I declined offers via the application portals. In short, to decline an offer, you want to follow instructions via the application portal to make it official, so the response you wrote may not count as an action to formally decline the offer. Meanwhile, to share your decision with professors, mhm....your response doesn't look like a personalized email?

 

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Just now, AnUglyBoringNerd said:

I'm not that sure about HiLi, but if the admission notification you are responding to is standard and official rather than a personal email from your POI/DGS, in the online application system there is supposed to be something you click on to officially decline the offer. I remember attempting to decline my Columbia MA offer via email then the administration staff responded with something along the lines of "please log onto the application portal and blah blah blah". If you want to let your POIs know that you appreciate their consideration, then the email you've written looks very formal to me. Are you trying to decline the offer by sending this response or are you trying to let your POIs know about it? I remember the emails I wrote to my POIs are a lot more..mhm... personal? I wrote first to my POIs and told them I'd be attending another (my current) program, thanked them for the advice they'd offered during the application process, and let them know I look forward to meeting them in the future etc. Then I declined offers via the application portals. In short, to decline an offer, you want to follow instructions via the application portal to make it official, so the response you wrote may not count as an action to formally decline the offer. Meanwhile, to share your decision with professors, mhm....your response doesn't look like a personalized email?

 

There wasn't a form to decline my offer, and this wasn't a letter to my POI! 

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@fordlandia sorry I might already have asked this--but did you get an official rejection from NYU?

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51 minutes ago, Karou said:

Amazing news @fordlandia, congratulations!

On my end, I've officially committed to Duke, feels good to know where I'll be going! Now I get to do fun stuff like Visa paperwork. Yay. ;)

Sounds like the visit weekend went well then, congrats!! Hope you love it!

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9 minutes ago, elx said:

Sounds like the visit weekend went well then, congrats!! Hope you love it!

Thank you, it really did go well! I'm still a little jet lagged and it hasn't really sunk in yet, but I am genuinely thrilled. Duke is definitely the best possible place for me to get my PhD. :)

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Got a funded offer from QMUL last night, and then an offer from the University of Oxford this afternoon! Still waiting to hear about funding for Oxford, but I’m absolutely thrilled - they are my first acceptances!

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3 minutes ago, Ccthomas95 said:

Got a funded offer from QMUL last night, and then an offer from the University of Oxford this afternoon! Still waiting to hear about funding for Oxford, but I’m absolutely thrilled - they are my first acceptances!

Congrats, that's amazing!! You've applied for the PhD for both, right? :) 

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24 minutes ago, Ccthomas95 said:

Got a funded offer from QMUL last night, and then an offer from the University of Oxford this afternoon! Still waiting to hear about funding for Oxford, but I’m absolutely thrilled - they are my first acceptances!

That's fantastic, congratulations! Feel free to PM me if you have questions about Oxford ! :)

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39 minutes ago, elx said:

Congrats, that's amazing!! You've applied for the PhD for both, right? :) 

Yep, both for a PhD! I thought up until yesterday that I was going to wipe out! 

Thanks @Karou, I really appreciate it!

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21 hours ago, fordlandia said:

Thank you so much! Curious, are you planning on attending Temple?

I'm going to hold out a glimmer of hope for Penn, but I already am an adjunct at Temple so it is likely I will stay on here. I like the environment and faculty and it's a great place for interdisciplinary and multicultural study.

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Has anyone been accepted to a program and expected funding, but not heard details yet? My top choice program assured me that they do not take anyone that they can’t fund, but when I heard from the DGS he told me “we are still making final decisions regarding funding.” I assume that meant placement decisions (TA, research assistant, fellowships with various local historical sites), but I’m starting to worry! I have not heard in almost a month. I emailed to check in and did not hear back, but it has only been one day since I sent the email.

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2 hours ago, Karou said:

Amazing news @fordlandia, congratulations!

On my end, I've officially committed to Duke, feels good to know where I'll be going! Now I get to do fun stuff like Visa paperwork. Yay. ;)

Thank you @Karou and congratulations on accepting Duke! 😁

7 minutes ago, LethalIntent024 said:

So currently I'm freaking out because I don't know what to think.

 

I applied to University of Florida's Clinical Psychology program with an emphasis in Neuropsychology and noticed someone received an offer of admission last Friday. I've been compulsively checking my email every 10 minutes for the last few days and have even reached out to PI's I'm interested in to see when I'd hear an official decision. Of course, no response yet. Should I expect a rejection? I've read some programs send out their offers in waves and that I could still be in the running but I'm not sure. If ANYONE has gone through this before, please give me clarity/closure lol

I see you are new to the site - this is the history forum, so you will probably find an answer on the Psychology forum:

https://forum.thegradcafe.com/forum/8-psychology/

 

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That NYU rejection really got me.

I was prepared to be rejected, but when I opened the decision and saw "we are pleased to inform you..." I got so excited before reading "admission to the Master's program in world history." Sorry, but I don't have $60k to spend. That's kinda a big reason why I applied directly for PhD programs...

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48 minutes ago, LethalIntent024 said:

So currently I'm freaking out because I don't know what to think.

 

I applied to University of Florida's Clinical Psychology program with an emphasis in Neuropsychology and noticed someone received an offer of admission last Friday. I've been compulsively checking my email every 10 minutes for the last few days and have even reached out to PI's I'm interested in to see when I'd hear an official decision. Of course, no response yet. Should I expect a rejection? I've read some programs send out their offers in waves and that I could still be in the running but I'm not sure. If ANYONE has gone through this before, please give me clarity/closure lol

Wrong thread I’m afraid. You might wanna check clinical psych forums for this info. 

 

ETA: Whoops, didn’t see that @fordlandia already answered above! 

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Thank you @fordlandia, it's definitely a great feeling to have made the decision, and to go somewhere I'm very excited about! I'm assuming your visit went well also! Do you think you'll go to UT Austin?

@elx, I meant to comment on that earlier but it slipped my mind, in regards to your 1-year program dilemma, if you do get into Oxford, I know it's possible for MSt students to transfer into the two-year program (I'm assuming since you're an Americanist you've applied to the History program (?) which also has a 2-year track. They've revamped the programs recently so it's a bit confusing, they used to have separate programs for European and American history), so that could be a possibility for you. Of course, adding one year to your MA is also a significant financial decision so taking a year out could be the better option!

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Just now, Karou said:

Thank you @fordlandia, it's definitely a great feeling to have made the decision, and to go somewhere I'm very excited about! I'm assuming your visit went well also! Do you think you'll go to UT Austin?

@elx, I meant to comment on that earlier but it slipped my mind, in regards to your 1-year program dilemma, if you do get into Oxford, I know it's possible for MSt students to transfer into the two-year program (I'm assuming since you're an Americanist you've applied to the History program (?) which also has a 2-year track. They've revamped the programs recently so it's a bit confusing, they used to have separate programs for European and American history), so that could be a possibility for you. Of course, adding one year to your MA is also a significant financial decision so taking a year out could be the better option!

The visit went very well - was floored with the number of resources the university has for graduate students. I definitely plan on accepting the offer once things settle down. Curious, after this taxing application season, how are you feeling about accepting Duke's offer?

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1 minute ago, fordlandia said:

The visit went very well - was floored with the number of resources the university has for graduate students. I definitely plan on accepting the offer once things settle down. Curious, after this taxing application season, how are you feeling about accepting Duke's offer?

That's wonderful to hear, so happy for you! I'm feeling good, but tired, and having a hard time readjusting with my rhythm here, but I think that's just a case of being tired from travelling, as I just got back on Sunday and I still have no idea what day it is haha. Overnight flights are a good idea in theory... but yeah not so much in practice. It's also the last week of term here so things are moving fast!

I've probably said this several times already, but if I were a more organized person I would have applied to different schools than I did (Emory, Vanderbilt and NYU come to mind) but I still think I would have ended up at Duke no matter what, so I definitely feel very good about my decision. No regrets, nothing but enthusiasm over here. :)

I'm mostly just glad that part of the process is over! How are you feeling?

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56 minutes ago, I_Am_In_Paine said:

That NYU rejection really got me.

I was prepared to be rejected, but when I opened the decision and saw "we are pleased to inform you..." I got so excited before reading "admission to the Master's program in world history." Sorry, but I don't have $60k to spend. That's kinda a big reason why I applied directly for PhD programs...

Some (not all) MA students do seem to have funding--not a stipend, but they're not paying tuition. It might just be worth looking into how MA students fund themselves--I wouldn't call NYU's MA program a cash cow, a lot of MA students are very integrated (for serious want of a better word) into phd classes/the phd "community" and professors do take MA students and their dissertations very seriously--there have been two instances where I didn't actually realize that someone was a masters student until they were like "I got into PhD programs". In other words, it's a real admission and a sign that they actually do just think you'd be better suited for a PhD once you've done an MA/would like to work with you and help you get there. 

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9 minutes ago, OHSP said:

Some (not all) MA students do seem to have funding--not a stipend, but they're not paying tuition. It might just be worth looking into how MA students fund themselves--I wouldn't call NYU's MA program a cash cow, a lot of MA students are very integrated (for serious want of a better word) into phd classes/the phd "community" and professors do take MA students and their dissertations very seriously--there have been two instances where I didn't actually realize that someone was a masters student until they were like "I got into PhD programs". In other words, it's a real admission and a sign that they actually do just think you'd be better suited for a PhD once you've done an MA/would like to work with you and help you get there. 

Thanks for the info! At face value it did seem like a cash cow to me so I'm glad to know that's not quite the case. However the decision was very specific, in fact it mentioned in two places, that there is no financial aid. Perhaps I misunderstood? It said "While our master's program does not offer financial aid or teaching opportunities..." and then later on "We regret to add that there are no fellowships or scholarships available to you through the Graduate School or your program."

Based on that, is there another avenue students use to avoid paying tuition? Or do they in fact offer aid to some students and I just didn't get it? I could find a way to support myself if tuition was less of an obstacle.

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6 minutes ago, I_Am_In_Paine said:

Thanks for the info! At face value it did seem like a cash cow to me so I'm glad to know that's not quite the case. However the decision was very specific, in fact it mentioned in two places, that there is no financial aid. Perhaps I misunderstood? It said "While our master's program does not offer financial aid or teaching opportunities..." and then later on "We regret to add that there are no fellowships or scholarships available to you through the Graduate School or your program."

Based on that, is there another avenue students use to avoid paying tuition? Or do they in fact offer aid to some students and I just didn't get it? I could find a way to support myself if tuition was less of an obstacle.

I'm actually not entirely sure but I would ask if you can be put in touch with current MA students, who will have a better idea. Just from the website there's this (below)--that might be how students are funding themselves--though the website does seem a little incorrect to me (even with an MA we're all funded for 5 years for the phd, for instance). 

"The Graduate School’s Tuition Incentive Program (TIP) encourages students to apply for external grants and provides matching tuition points (from 50 to 100 percent) to eligible recipients of external awards from recognized, academic sources of funding outside NYU.  For applications and specific details about TIP eligibility criteria, please visitwww.nyu.edu/gsas/Admissions/tipform.html.  New York University offers several loan programs to students.  Information is available at www.nyu.edu/financial.aid or at the Office of Financial Aid, 212-998-4444. 

The GSAS/CAS Tuition Program: Qualified CAS students graduating in 2009 or later who complete the admissions application process and are admitted to the master's programs in History (World History, Archives and Public History, or History of Women and Gender), as well as the BA/MA program, in the term immediately following the year of their graduation from CAS, will be eligible to receive a 25% tuition discount for courses required for the degree program."

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1 hour ago, OHSP said:

I'm actually not entirely sure but I would ask if you can be put in touch with current MA students, who will have a better idea. Just from the website there's this (below)--that might be how students are funding themselves--though the website does seem a little incorrect to me (even with an MA we're all funded for 5 years for the phd, for instance). 

"The Graduate School’s Tuition Incentive Program (TIP) encourages students to apply for external grants and provides matching tuition points (from 50 to 100 percent) to eligible recipients of external awards from recognized, academic sources of funding outside NYU.  For applications and specific details about TIP eligibility criteria, please visitwww.nyu.edu/gsas/Admissions/tipform.html.  New York University offers several loan programs to students.  Information is available at www.nyu.edu/financial.aid or at the Office of Financial Aid, 212-998-4444. 

The GSAS/CAS Tuition Program: Qualified CAS students graduating in 2009 or later who complete the admissions application process and are admitted to the master's programs in History (World History, Archives and Public History, or History of Women and Gender), as well as the BA/MA program, in the term immediately following the year of their graduation from CAS, will be eligible to receive a 25% tuition discount for courses required for the degree program."

Thanks for that information! Based on this it seems like it's a lot of work to get funding for their MA, and considering I have a funded MA offer already (should nothing positive happen with the 2 schools I'm waiting on plus 1 on the wait list for PhD) I'll probably turn down the NYU offer. I really appreciate your input though!

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On the topic of “cash cow masters” - thoughts on a William and Mary MA (one year program)? I’m an early americanist, so being attached to and having an assigned apprenticeship at the W&M Quarterly seems like a good connection; in addition, the MA students are totally integrated with the PhD students, so I’m optimistic... but as more conversation on this thread and other areas of the history forum surrounds “cash cow masters programs” I’m second-guessing myself a bit. For added context, their funding package gives a small stipend for the apprenticeship and an out-of-state tuition waver.

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