Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Faculty everywhere are panicking trying to get online classes up and running. It's likely to be far more difficult to get in contact with them in the next few weeks. Also, friends and family have taken on a different level of priority for everyone, so that factors into how quickly they may respond to emails. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, meghan_sparkle said:

Every admitted student I've spoken to has said that visit cancellations and the uncertainty generated by world health epidemic will lengthen the process of their decision making, with many totally unsure how they'll reach a conclusion with half or all their visits cancelled; to me this says that almost all waitlist movement will occur at the very last second or even after April 15, rather than trickling movement April 1st-15th. 

I had hoped to be able to decline spots as soon as possible post-visits to open things up for people on waitlists (and have declined one school already). But without being able to meet anyone in person or see the schools—plus, at current levels of havoc, with faculty slower than usual to respond to emails and set up calls—deciding will be incredibly difficult. And it's ominous to me that the worse this crisis gets, the less faculty have been receptive to my contact. A huge difference between 72 hours ago and today for instance. That'll only get worse I'm sure.

Sure, but in order for a changed deadline to help significantly, it would need to allow for visits, right? And right now, no one really knows when that would be. At some point, any students admitted off the waitlist need to know before the summer for strictly practical reasons: to find housing, partners who need to apply for jobs, etc. I'm sure it feels extremely unfair and stressful to have to make a decision right now (and it totally is!)--but imagine coming out of whatever's about to happen and being told in July that you should drop everything and move across the country.

Also, this is just a guess, but I'd say professors will be largely quiet for the next week or so. At least at the institution where I'm a graduate student, classes are paused for the next week while undergraduates are (non-optionally) moving out of university housing, and many professors are scrambling to move their courses online in the interim. This isn't to say that everything has dissolved into total chaos, but keep in mind that the most prominent members of many departments are probably the least equipped to teach online courses (they probably learned to teach without many of these tools, and they probably haven't taught or tutored online before). Many of them, at least at my institution, are also volunteering their time and homes to move and house students who aren't able to leave university housing with three/four days of notice (yes, really: they were told after five pm yesterday, and are required to leave before Sunday evening). I agree that it'll get worse before it gets better, but I don't think the slow responses mean you're not a priority. Most likely there's some panic at play, and professors will be more on top of things by next week or the week after. Obviously this is all influenced by the department I'm familiar with, but this process seems to be happening at many of the schools in our region, at least.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, kolyagogolova said:

Sure, but in order for a changed deadline to help significantly, it would need to allow for visits, right? And right now, no one really knows when that would be. At some point, any students admitted off the waitlist need to know before the summer for strictly practical reasons: to find housing, partners who need to apply for jobs, etc. I'm sure it feels extremely unfair and stressful to have to make a decision right now (and it totally is!)--but imagine coming out of whatever's about to happen and being told in July that you should drop everything and move across the country.

Yeah fair, I didn't think about how moving to say April or May would really impact waitlist movement that comes through in, say, June or July as you said. I think the combination of lack of communication/recruitment from schools after cancelled visits + the rigidity of the April 15 date just really panicked me so I thought it worth asking the question. Dropping the idea now! The VP of the Council for Graduate Schools said this morning the decision @Warelin linked to is final very unlikely to move, so I'd say the chances of it happening are about zero. So those on waitlists can rest easy (or easier, at least).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Reached out to BU yesterday looking for answers, but no reply yet. I know they must be going through it right now, but so is every other university, and it feels...kind of like they're ghosting me a little bit? Like, I don't expect anyone to roll out a red carpet for me, but I want to feel...wanted? Their silence is making UW look even better than it already does to me, but I feel like I can't turn my back on BU because they have more resources. Urg, decisions are hard. I know I need to wait until I have all the information possible, but it's tough not to feel swayed right now.

And I don't even want to talk about UVA lol. Being on the waitlist has made something in my brain just decide I'm not getting out of purgatory, even though logically I know there is a slight chance. I just haven't done enough research on that yet and I don't want to put in that effort if I'm not getting in, but at the same time I need to know as much as I can just in case I have to make a snap decision. My brain feels fried.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
24 minutes ago, tinymica said:

Reached out to BU yesterday looking for answers, but no reply yet. I know they must be going through it right now, but so is every other university, and it feels...kind of like they're ghosting me a little bit? Like, I don't expect anyone to roll out a red carpet for me, but I want to feel...wanted? Their silence is making UW look even better than it already does to me, but I feel like I can't turn my back on BU because they have more resources. Urg, decisions are hard. I know I need to wait until I have all the information possible, but it's tough not to feel swayed right now.

And I don't even want to talk about UVA lol. Being on the waitlist has made something in my brain just decide I'm not getting out of purgatory, even though logically I know there is a slight chance. I just haven't done enough research on that yet and I don't want to put in that effort if I'm not getting in, but at the same time I need to know as much as I can just in case I have to make a snap decision. My brain feels fried.

I did want to let you (and those of us still waiting) know the few things I learned about BU while I visited my school. It seems the two (plus BC and Brandies) work together a lot. I found out that they held a fairly large conference-type thing recently (the fall, maybe?) about alt-ac careers. They, as a group, combined resources to learn about alternative paths to make those choices available. These multi-school gatherings seem to be a thing, so it's a good opportunity to network. Also, several of the grad students mentioned that they loved being in the Boston area because so many schools were in close proximity and they're able to attend various academic/creative activities happening at other schools. One student also mentioned the Eng courses at BU are laid-back. I know this doesn't help much in the grand-scheme, but I did hear all good things!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, gooniesneversaydie said:

I did want to let you (and those of us still waiting) know the few things I learned about BU while I visited my school. It seems the two (plus BC and Brandies) work together a lot. I found out that they held a fairly large conference-type thing recently (the fall, maybe?) about alt-ac careers. They, as a group, combined resources to learn about alternative paths to make those choices available. These multi-school gatherings seem to be a thing, so it's a good opportunity to network. Also, several of the grad students mentioned that they loved being in the Boston area because so many schools were in close proximity and they're able to attend various academic/creative activities happening at other schools. One student also mentioned the Eng courses at BU are laid-back. I know this doesn't help much in the grand-scheme, but I did hear all good things!

Thank you!! This really does help and I appreciate it!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FYI got this forwarded by to me by an administrator re: Harvard — wouldn’t usually share this on a public forum but I think right now it’s probably helpful to make people aware of what’s happening at particular institutions because a lot of programs are probably each operating independently and in the dark.

CDBCC232-AF22-41CA-AA4C-E4370FAD16C1.jpeg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I honestly cannot think of a worse move than individual schools allowing for extensions. This is going to really mess with waitlists and force students to make decisions they might not otherwise make.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, in any case, for my timezone, it seems as if our week is done... although granted all I'm waiting at this point is waitlists, and I sincerely doubt Monday will bring a whole lot of movement... 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Does anyone know if University of Iowa is sending out rejections to its waitlist? I got a rejection email today from them, but I had formerly been told I was on the highest tier of the waitlist. I emailed them to clear up the confusion. I didn't think I'd hear anything until closer to the 4/15 deadline. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/13/2020 at 8:12 PM, okonivek said:

Does anyone know if University of Iowa is sending out rejections to its waitlist? I got a rejection email today from them, but I had formerly been told I was on the highest tier of the waitlist. I emailed them to clear up the confusion. I didn't think I'd hear anything until closer to the 4/15 deadline. 

I got a rejection after being on the waitlist as well. I just assumed it meant the other candidate(s) in my period accepted their offers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Tufts has been great at communicating with their admits. I've received several emails from the DGS and Dean of the Grad School apologizing and reassuring me the chaos won't affect the Fall semester. The power went out while I was visiting campus, so they had to deal with that along with the virus issues - bless them. The constant communication has been a nice surprise. All the POI's I've reached out to before and after my visit (I did have to reach out on my own - I didn't get any welcome emails) have emailed me back within a couple of hours. I didn't initially have the best conversation with my primary POI, which made my heart drop in my butt, as this is my only Ph.D. option, but my correspondence since has been much clearer and positive. Still waiting on BU..... But if my options come down to applying again next year (No. Just no. I'm so tired) or going to Tufts, I'll most likely choose Tufts. They're a plucky little department and seem to use the smallness to their advantage. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Has anyone else still not heard anything from UC Davis? I don't even think I'm interested in the program anymore, but the silence seems kind of odd lol, considering acceptances and rejections went out forever ago.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, spikeseagulls said:

Has anyone else still not heard anything from UC Davis? I don't even think I'm interested in the program anymore, but the silence seems kind of odd lol, considering acceptances and rejections went out forever ago.

I imagine at this point that it might just be an oversight. Might be worth emailing them to ask

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/10/2020 at 9:01 PM, tinymica said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-harvard-colleges-closed-184640323.html

Did everybody hear about this? Harvard students have 5 days to vacate their dorms and....not come back. Many students have nowhere to go, especially international students for whom it is not an option to return home. Wtf is the world right now?

University of Dayton was given 24 hours notice. Students were scrambling for transportation and packing or finding alternative options if they couldn't go home. They could apply for extenuating circumstances to stay on campus (like international students, queer students possibly) 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/13/2020 at 6:32 PM, WildeThing said:

I honestly cannot think of a worse move than individual schools allowing for extensions. This is going to really mess with waitlists and force students to make decisions they might not otherwise make.

As someone sitting on two waitlists and no acceptances, I disagree with this one. Right now I'm not able to do my usual due-diligence on schools due to turmoil in my own work and personal life due to the virus sucking up every waking hour, and anyway, many schools and individual people aren't nearly as responsive as they would be otherwise in mid-March--because the virus is sucking up all their time too--so even the emails I do send don't get responses. I want the space to hold these conversations in the middle of April, instead of feeling like my time to get answers and reassure programs of my interest is going down the drain as I make sure that my family is safe and try to help others in and beyond my personal circles. Getting an acceptance on May 17th wouldn't be that different to me than getting it on April 17th, so far as the logistics of moving my entire life and my partner's life to a different state would be, but knowing that the deadline was extended would make my March less of a hellscape. 

And I know that others are in much, much worse positions! I'm like, top 10% easiest situations! I wish that the deadlines could be uniformly pushed back two weeks or a month so that professors and current students didn't have to deal with grad admissions stuff on top of their mountain of existing responsibilities due to moving classes online, childcare up in the air, professional obligations like standing on sand, etc. etc. I wish the deadlines were pushed back so that current undergrads didn't have to juggle this on top of forced evictions from their dorms. I wish, I wish... 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gather round the campfire kids (@GoldHippie, @Emailchecker, @onerepublic96 ), ol' gooniesneversaydie has a new tale to tell about the mystical college known as BU. Legend has it that this school only appears to those who are true of heart (@tinymica) on the third new moon of the winter solstice. No, I just got a response back from the email I sent the department last week asking about my application.

Thanks for reaching out! The graduate admissions board is still reviewing applications, and they hoped to release decisions by mid-March. Because of the university closure, however, things have slowed down somewhat. Hopefully applicants will hear back with their decisions over the next couple weeks, but I'm not too sure myself because of the confusion.

So, here we are. We have no clue. Apparently, they have no clue. So.... 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's very hard not to lose respect for them at the moment. I don't mind the waiting - we have all become experts in that by now - but I do mind the BS. The admissions board is 100% not still reviewing applications. If they are, then it is even greater BS that they have made offers before seeing all apps?!?! Ok, BU. Take a sit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@gooniesneversaydie thanks for the update! They still haven’t gotten back to me with real answers, just forwarded my email to the relevant people.

I’m very miffed about the way they’re treating admits and waiting applicants alike. I was trying to be understanding about the unprecedented circumstances, but every other university seems to be okay communicating with students! I agree with @Emailchecker; it’s tough not to lose some respect for them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, Emailchecker said:

It's very hard not to lose respect for them at the moment. I don't mind the waiting - we have all become experts in that by now - but I do mind the BS. The admissions board is 100% not still reviewing applications. If they are, then it is even greater BS that they have made offers before seeing all apps?!?! Ok, BU. Take a sit.

I'm also doubtful that they're still reviewing applications, as we know at least 4 people have already been accepted. Not to say they aren't working on a waitlist or their MA offer list, but I think the PhD admits have been chosen and sent out. It is an usual time, however, we've been waiting for responses since before shit hit the fan at the universities. And if they aren't sending out responses to admits, like @tinymica said, then it really puts a bad taste in my mouth about how the administration handles things in general. It's a big school, so I'm still trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but c'mon now. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, AnachronisticPoet said:

University of Dayton was given 24 hours notice. Students were scrambling for transportation and packing or finding alternative options if they couldn't go home. They could apply for extenuating circumstances to stay on campus (like international students, queer students possibly) 

Excuse me??? 24 HOURS? This is unconscionable and disgusting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

I mean, a lot of us have already chosen at this point. Even if BU came by with any sort of offer I'd have to immediately respond with "taken, sorry." I'm sure a lot happens behind the scenes to complicate any admissions process, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're left scrambling to fill their cohort.

Edited by merry night wanderer

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.