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Not sure how many international students are in this forum but check this out if you are international students (especially if you are starting a school in this fall)

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement just posted this on their website regarding some grave changes on international students entering US for schools. 

International students may not be allowed to enter the US or may have to transfer or leave the country if your school goes full online course this fall. 

I feel extremely disappointed and confused with this modification. I'm mostly worried for people who just got in and will be starting new.

I also wonder if this will impact the coming application cycle as well. 

 

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during

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the requirements for international students to stay in the US are ridiculous...if you are attending a hybrid model university, only ONE of your courses can be online? The university I teach at is technically a hybrid for Fall semester but we aren't offering that many in person classes because of the freaking pandemic! WTF? this is just a cover for the administration to do what they've wanted to do all along. 

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12 hours ago, justacigar said:

the requirements for international students to stay in the US are ridiculous...if you are attending a hybrid model university, only ONE of your courses can be online? The university I teach at is technically a hybrid for Fall semester but we aren't offering that many in person classes because of the freaking pandemic! WTF? this is just a cover for the administration to do what they've wanted to do all along. 

Actually, official ICE release states that "Nonimmigrant F-1 students attending schools adopting a hybrid model—that is, a mixture of online and in person classes—will be allowed to take more than one class or three credit hours online. These schools must certify to SEVP, through the Form I-20, “Certificate of Eligibility for Nonimmigrant Student Status,” certifying that the program is not entirely online, that the student is not taking an entirely online course load this semester, and that the student is taking the minimum number of online classes required to make normal progress in their degree program."

So my understanding is that as long as their whole course load isn't online,  students can take more than one online course, but only ones that don't have an in-person option. 

 

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Just now, BrokeForTheNextDecade said:

Actually, official ICE release states that "Nonimmigrant F-1 students attending schools adopting a hybrid model—that is, a mixture of online and in person classes—will be allowed to take more than one class or three credit hours online. These schools must certify to SEVP, through the Form I-20, “Certificate of Eligibility for Nonimmigrant Student Status,” certifying that the program is not entirely online, that the student is not taking an entirely online course load this semester, and that the student is taking the minimum number of online classes required to make normal progress in their degree program."

So my understanding is that as long as their whole course load isn't online,  students can take more than one online course, but only ones that don't have an in-person option. 

 

Ah, thanks for clarifying that. I definitely misinterpreted the verbatim! 

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Due to our moron-in-chief, our new incoming student (who we knew previously from work with our lab) is probably trapped in her country and may have to wait a full year to start. 

 

It's all political; Tr*mp wants to force schools to open, forcing the economy back on track at the expense of American (and international) lives. If you can, please VOTE. 

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5 hours ago, Clinapp2017 said:

Due to our moron-in-chief, our new incoming student (who we knew previously from work with our lab) is probably trapped in her country and may have to wait a full year to start. 

 

It's all political; Tr*mp wants to force schools to open, forcing the economy back on track at the expense of American (and international) lives. If you can, please VOTE. 

A little off-topic, but I heard Trump's push for everything to reopen despite record-high cases may be his way of getting many voting polls to close in densely-populated areas (aka, democratic cities mainly), since Fall will bring about an unimaginable spike in cases. I hope this is just a conspiracy, but we've already seen this happen in Georgia during the primaries...

Anyway, fuck 45.

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ICE has rescinded the order following the hearing this afternoon regarding Harvard and MIT's lawsuit! Students on F-1 visas are now allowed to stay in the US even if taking all online courses 🎉

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