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44 minutes ago, BeakerBreaker said:

I live about the same distance as Clayton in the Park and drive to the med campus every day (I'm assuming this is where you're headed - neuro in DBBS?). Also, yay for WashU! :)

Biking is okay during fair weather and daylight hours, although St. Louis isn't the most bike friendly of places. With some of those apartments, you could cut through forest park and it would be a nice ride.

My PI's lab is on Danforth campus so it seems like it would be about a 15 minute bike through Forest Park and worse comes to worse, I can take an uber since the apartment is only 8 min away (according to google maps)

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2 hours ago, Dr. Brains said:

My PI's lab is on Danforth campus so it seems like it would be about a 15 minute bike through Forest Park and worse comes to worse, I can take an uber since the apartment is only 8 min away (according to google maps)

Forest Park is reasonably bike friendly most of the year. STL is kind of weird to bike in the winter though, as roads aren't really plowed if there's snow and it's mess. I've lived in Boston and there are many, many worse drivers in STL than Boston--just due to the overall unpredictability of drivers. 

 

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On 2/26/2016 at 4:00 PM, nevermind said:

Forest Park is reasonably bike friendly most of the year. STL is kind of weird to bike in the winter though, as roads aren't really plowed if there's snow and it's mess. I've lived in Boston and there are many, many worse drivers in STL than Boston--just due to the overall unpredictability of drivers. 

 

Thanks for the input. Maybe I'll have to look into some other transportation options. 

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I called Fontbonne this morning to accept my admission offer. I was wondering if anyone else has accepted there offer yet. I'm hoping to meet some people before the semester begins. I am from the St. Louis area and I'm so excited to move back there. I plan on doing the adult neurogenics emphais curriculum track. Does anyone know people who are already in the program?

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I have recently been accepted to both MSW programs at Washington University in St. Louis and University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. I'm trying to make my decision between the two and am looking for any thoughts or suggestions on either program!

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Greetings fellow forum users,

I just found out that I've been accepted to the PhD program in political science at Washington University in St. Louis (beginning August 2017). Given that I am primarily interested in empirical legal studies and judicial politics, I'm fairly certain that I'll end up attending WashU for graduate study. That said, I'd like to try and get in touch with other individuals that have also been accepted by WashU just so I might get a head start in getting to know my cohort. So, if you or anyone you know has also been accepted to the PhD program in political science at WashU, please contact me! 

Best,

CS

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I didn't apply to WUSTL, but if you have any questions about the Lou, I'll try to answer them here or you can shoot me a PM.

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On 2/12/2018 at 5:00 PM, Tderossett said:

I was recently accepted to Saint Louis University's graduate program in psychology and I am curious as to the cost of living in STL. I know rent is pretty cheap, but what should I expect as far as electricity, internet, etc. for a one or two bedroom apartment? Thanks!

I would guess that you wouldn't be paying more than $100 combined in winter, but it is really gonna depend on the space and insulation. But congrats on SLU! Mid-town and South City (Tower Grove / Grand area) are fun! Excellent city for PhD budget!

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On 2/12/2018 at 5:00 PM, Tderossett said:

I was recently accepted to Saint Louis University's graduate program in psychology and I am curious as to the cost of living in STL. I know rent is pretty cheap, but what should I expect as far as electricity, internet, etc. for a one or two bedroom apartment? Thanks!

It's pretty cheap. Graduated with my MA from SLU in Sociology. I stayed in the dorms because it was 2-year program, but ended up staying to work as I apply to PhD programs. I live in the CWE and found an affordable place under 900 that includes rent and utilities. Midtown is good, but be careful of the developed areas. Tower Grove park is banging! The Grove is as well. Are you going to have a car?

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Some people on this thread have complained of St. Louis' "lack of culture." Can anyone suggest areas that might have more of this, even if they aren't particularly overwhelming? I'm not looking for Brooklyn here, people, but some coffeeshops, galleries, co-ops, theaters, etc.? 

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On 2/15/2018 at 9:44 AM, narple said:

I would guess that you wouldn't be paying more than $100 combined in winter, but it is really gonna depend on the space and insulation. But congrats on SLU! Mid-town and South City (Tower Grove / Grand area) are fun! Excellent city for PhD budget!

Thank you! That is great to hear. That is much cheaper than I expected. 

5 hours ago, pinoysoc said:

It's pretty cheap. Graduated with my MA from SLU in Sociology. I stayed in the dorms because it was 2-year program, but ended up staying to work as I apply to PhD programs. I live in the CWE and found an affordable place under 900 that includes rent and utilities. Midtown is good, but be careful of the developed areas. Tower Grove park is banging! The Grove is as well. Are you going to have a car?

That is awesome. That is about what I pay in a much smaller college town (12 square miles, population ~ 19,000) which is great news. Yes, I have a good dependable car. I've seen where parking can be pretty pricey in some areas which sort of sucks but that is the only complaint I've had so far. 

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6 hours ago, Isocrates2.o said:

Some people on this thread have complained of St. Louis' "lack of culture." Can anyone suggest areas that might have more of this, even if they aren't particularly overwhelming? I'm not looking for Brooklyn here, people, but some coffeeshops, galleries, co-ops, theaters, etc.? 

So I grew up in StL. It is a neighborhood-based city, but great number of the metro area which is considered STL lives in the suburbs (50-60s white flight). This is changing to a certain extent, especially in the last 10-15 years, but it has also created a dialogue of safe and unsafe neighborhoods. This has been perpetuated both by the city population as a whole and institutions like SLU and WashU. So the result is that students tend to gravitate to the areas by campus that are considered "safe."

This being said, there are definitely areas that I, as a young person, would not want to walk through alone at night. These areas frequently border some of the most fun parts of the city too. My point is to take all the discussions of "safe/unsafe" areas with a grain of salt and go see the areas for yourself. 

But to your point about more "cultural areas": Cherokee street is the sort of LatinX and Mexican area of the city (though its small) its also a street with a lot of bars and STL style chill (small dance bars). The Grove (mentioned above) is STL's open queer scene (i.e. lots of gay bars and undergrads). The Hill (italian food and groceries); Benton Park=hipster-dom (but with a little money); Lafayette and Soulard are the French quarters (and excellent BBQ). The Loop used to be edgy and was the new area before the Grove (which was before Cherokee), but has been bought up a lot by Wash U. Grand/ Tower Grove are my personal favorites- yummy variety of food and on the affordable side. Botanical Gardens are also in the area and close to SLU. Mid-town is kinda industrial, but has lots of theaters small for standup and large for broadway. New hip restaurants etc. Central West End is sorta the affluent closer to the city area, best indie bookstore in the city (Left Bank Books) and lots of Med students. ON the opposite end of Forest park from WashU. Wash Ave is the downtown "Night Out Street". A lot of "business types chill around there. 

My descriptions are generalizations-and I am sure I skipped some good ones-but it gives you an idea of the layout.

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Any info on Fontbonne? Just received an acceptance and live close to St. Louis, so already pretty familiar with the area. But just any info on the school itself, the culture there, (what kind of students typically go there, super religious?), etc. Also, what type of housing is around there? How expensive for a one room apt? Thanks 

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I might go to WashU and really liked the Delmar Loop area, but I'm aware it's so-so safety wise. What would you suggest for someone who values walkability? I would ideally search for a place near campus. Sad to hear about public transport sucking, as I won't get a car nor plan to get one soon, really.

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On 3/11/2018 at 11:47 PM, Carly Rae Jepsen said:

I might go to WashU and really liked the Delmar Loop area, but I'm aware it's so-so safety wise. What would you suggest for someone who values walkability? I would ideally search for a place near campus. Sad to hear about public transport sucking, as I won't get a car nor plan to get one soon, really.

Delmar Loop is a great area. Lots of food and entertainment. That being said, just like every city, you have to learn the safe and not so safe areas. If you stay within the loop you should be fine. Same goes for most of the popular student living areas (CWE, Delmar/U City). To me St Louis is very easy to tell you are in an area you "shouldn't be in", you'll recognize that your surroundings have drastically changed.

Most of my student friends live in/around the loop, in the central west end, or by debaliviere/forest park(Recommend waiting to move to this area until after your first year). If you find a place in either of those though public transportation won't be an issue. Students have free access to metro/subway and you can get to most things you need (school, grocery store, entertainment) in less than 10 minutes. Walkability is great and even with cars most of us (that being my classmates) rarely use them for normal day to day. 

Feel free to PM if you have any more questions.

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1 hour ago, KR Marksmen said:

Delmar Loop is a great area. Lots of food and entertainment. That being said, just like every city, you have to learn the safe and not so safe areas. If you stay within the loop you should be fine. Same goes for most of the popular student living areas (CWE, Delmar/U City). To me St Louis is very easy to tell you are in an area you "shouldn't be in", you'll recognize that your surroundings have drastically changed.

Most of my student friends live in/around the loop, in the central west end, or by debaliviere/forest park(Recommend waiting to move to this area until after your first year). If you find a place in either of those though public transportation won't be an issue. Students have free access to metro/subway and you can get to most things you need (school, grocery store, entertainment) in less than 10 minutes. Walkability is great and even with cars most of us (that being my classmates) rarely use them for normal day to day. 

Feel free to PM if you have any more questions.

Thank you, this helps a lot! I'll send you a PM if I have other questions.

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Everybody: is there a substantial difference between Skinker Debaliviere and University City (North of Delmar across WashU's North Campus)? The Skinker place I am looking at is cheaper and frankly the difference between services offered is minimal so I am leaning towards there, but I am concerned about safety and such. 

I've also heard north of Delmar it can get rough, so I guess I'm wondering about safety for both places.

I'm not considering elsewhere, I want to be within walking distance due to lack of a car (someone suggested Pasadena Hills in another website, lol).

Current grad students were lukewarm or against housing with Quadrangle but their places seemed fine for me, and it would be just easier for me.

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Hi!  Have done a decent amount of research already, but it's hard to get a feel for places from google alone.  Anyone have suggestiosn for neighborhoods with apartments that are (rank order priorities):
1) dog-friendly 
2) affordable (ideally under $1000 for a 2bd) 
3) reasonably safe 
4) have in unit w/d
5) exposed brick if we're picking and choosing
6) garage access 

Anyone have suggestions?  Or neighborhoods I should definitely steer clear of? 
 

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On 4/3/2018 at 5:59 AM, Carly Rae Jepsen said:

Everybody: is there a substantial difference between Skinker Debaliviere and University City (North of Delmar across WashU's North Campus)? The Skinker place I am looking at is cheaper and frankly the difference between services offered is minimal so I am leaning towards there, but I am concerned about safety and such. 

I've also heard north of Delmar it can get rough, so I guess I'm wondering about safety for both places.

I'm not considering elsewhere, I want to be within walking distance due to lack of a car (someone suggested Pasadena Hills in another website, lol).

Current grad students were lukewarm or against housing with Quadrangle but their places seemed fine for me, and it would be just easier for me.

Hey there, I will be also attending Washu this Fall.

 

What did the grad students say exactly about Quadrangle? I've just rented an apartment in University City from them (going in August) and seeing this post makes me worried now.

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48 minutes ago, TheStLucas said:

Hey there, I will be also attending Washu this Fall.

 

What did the grad students say exactly about Quadrangle? I've just rented an apartment in University City from them (going in August) and seeing this post makes me worried now.

They said they're not the best when it comes to maintenance and such. I was looking at Yelp reviews and that seems to be a common complaint, too. Given how most of their places are filled, I wouldn't give that too much weight, though. Their places seem comfortable and convenient and as a first year that's just what I need.

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46 minutes ago, Carly Rae Jepsen said:

They said they're not the best when it comes to maintenance and such. I was looking at Yelp reviews and that seems to be a common complaint, too. Given how most of their places are filled, I wouldn't give that too much weight, though. Their places seem comfortable and convenient and as a first year that's just what I need.

Hmm, I see. Mine is also very close to the uni and all utilities are included in the rent, so that's a big plus. The only downside is that it's unfurnished.

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I'm an undergraduate at Saint Louis University and have absolutely fallen in love with the city! It reminds me a lot of home (I'm from another mid-size river city, Cincinnati), but is in and of itself unique. 

The cost of living in Saint Louis is relatively low and very doable. Apartments near where I live in midtown are ~$1000 a month for a two bedroom with two bathrooms, furniture, and electric/wifi/water/etc. Groceries are also pretty inexpensive depending on where you go; my boyfriend and I go to Schnuck's, which is pretty comparable to Kroger prices back home. It helps that a lot of the activities in Saint Louis (the history museum, art museum, zoo, etc.) are all free. You can do quite a bit in Saint Louis for very little money. 

There are really great, cool neighborhoods to check out in STL as well. I just did an internship in the Italian neighborhood, called the Hill, which is pretty well-known for its restaurants and the fact that it's where Yogi Berra was born. There are also some great bakeries and stores there as well; I particularly like Herbaria, which is a store that sells homemade vegan soap. A lot of people, I think, just write the neighborhood off as a quaint place where the restaurants are, but it's definitely worth exploring. The Loop, near WashU, is a cool, trendy area with a lot of cool shops; Central West End is also pretty cool and trendy, if you're into that. There's also a Bosnian neighborhood (Bevo Mill), since St. Louis has the largest Bosnian population outside of Sarajevo. Of course, downtown is great, and there are places in the neighboring county which are worth a day trip. I'm particularly fond of Saint Charles; my boyfriend is from there, and we spent a day exploring their downtown and the Lewis and Clark museum. It was quaint and really enjoyable. 

Saint Louis has some great food options as well. My personal favorites are Amighetti's (sandwich place), Marconi Bakery (they're a small pizza shop with great cannoli), Pickleman's (soups/salads/sandwiches/pizza), the Fountain on Locust (they have a really nice atmosphere), Peacock Diner (just a fun little diner in the Loop), Yiro Gyro, and Mission Taco. There are also some good dessert kinds of places: Clementine's (small creamery with non-traditional flavors, including boozy ones), Missouri Bakery (good little bakery), etc. 

As for public transport, it's pretty reliable and I've never had trouble with the bus or the train. I rode the bus alone every week (sometimes twice a week) and never had an issue. I also rode the train alone at night downtown and didn't feel unsafe. Having a car wouldn't be the worst thing; it's easier to get around via car than it is via train, and having a car gives you more access to things in St. Louis County or across the river in Illinois. 

Safety-wise, I've never really felt unsafe in the city. I think that the bad neighborhoods (especially East St. Louis) get combined with St. Louis crime statistics and give the city a bad rep. It's not a bad place at all, and has a lot of great history that people don't really ever think about. 

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On 4/3/2018 at 2:50 PM, kitcassidance said:

Hi!  Have done a decent amount of research already, but it's hard to get a feel for places from google alone.  Anyone have suggestiosn for neighborhoods with apartments that are (rank order priorities):
1) dog-friendly 
2) affordable (ideally under $1000 for a 2bd) 
3) reasonably safe 
4) have in unit w/d
5) exposed brick if we're picking and choosing
6) garage access 

Anyone have suggestions?  Or neighborhoods I should definitely steer clear of? 
 

Try the Standard in Midtown maybe? My friend lives there and her rent is out $931 for a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom. She has a cat, but they're dog friendly. It's a nice area (I live there). 

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