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If you can't find prices here http://www.rochester...uate/index.html then just email them, and they'll forward you the info. The only grads who live in res are those who are from so far away that they were not able to find a place off campus. It's not preferable. It's not so pleasant, according to the rumors. I found a place via craigslist, visiting the city for a weekend, making a dozen apptontments over the course of 3 days, and zipping around town seeing as much as I could as quick as possible. The online housing listing from UR was pretty worthless last year, though apparently they're inthe process of upgrading it. I never bother with anything but craigslist.

online resources: http://southwedge.ning.com/ http://www.rochestercitynewspaper.com/ http://www.esm.rochester.edu/concerts/ http://rocwiki.org/Front_Page http://rocwiki.org/Public_Market http://dryden.eastmanhouse.org/ http://www.jayceland.com/index.html also remember city-data.com

What are pluses/minuses of 19th Ward, South Wedge, Park Av.. what to do, etc SWedge: up and coming, my neighborhood, a few bars, mediocre "gourmet" grocery store, reasonable amenities. Lacking some amenities. My fave. 19th: cheaper, less to do, few amenities (i think), not as dangerous as reputed. Park: more expensive, more polished/yuppie, more 'trendy'. If your coming from a big city, this will NOT be as trendy as it's reputed to be. I rarely/never go there, I don't see the appeal at all. Others, including my colleaques, love it. More bars, restaurants, cafes, etc. "upscale." Also look at neighb between Park and Downtown, East/north of Alexander/East Ave. Accessible by UR bus system, pretty, walking distance to amenities/bars, galleries, etc.

I'm in my first year of a PhD in Roc, I can give some details. Re weather: it's not as bad as everyone says. Yes, snow, yes, lots of overcast days. I personally can't imagine picking a school based on weather. Then again, I'm from Toronto, so the snow/cold doesn't faze me at all. Re needing a car. Everyone says that, and there's truth to it. I don't have a car, one of the few, and the ONLY one in my department. I live close to campus, and I bike in 5 min, through all weather. Love it. Groceries: big basket, and I bike 10 min to the local grocery store. Sometimes bum rides wtih colleagues. As a "man" in a car culture, not having a car seems to have the biggest impact on dating. Again, I've had no problems with that, though there's a real stigma against being car-less. F%cked up, but I deal. There are others, and it's worth finding out who they are and feeling like you're part of a likeminded group. My rent: 650, plus 70/month utilities, for a fantastic 2 bedroom. I pay more than my fellow students, but I don't have car expenses, and I go out less becasue I'm at least 10 years older than them. I'm also not in the 'hip' neighborhoods, like Park ave, etc. Note that you can live in a cooler neighborhood, car free, and use the UR (assuming UR) free bus system. It's route is limited, but it can easily be done. Bus runs once/hr, till 11pm ish. Worth looking up. That will put you in a lovely niegborhood, walking distance to a lot, but still need to bike/drive/bus to get groceries. I came from a larger city, and I really felt the change to small city life. It was hard, I was used to living in the thick of downtown craziness, and loved it. But I'm getting used to it, after my first semester passed, which was brutal. Can't speak about buying houses/condos, though some grads do, cause it's so cheap, esp those with partners. Happy to answer more questions, if I can help. david