electrochoc
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Unsuccessful but I got the 3 year SSHRC. So funny how these committees work, though it's not the first time I hear of people getting a more expensive SSHRC and not getting the OGS. Date of status update was May 04, so basically they've had an answer for 10 days and are only releasing now?
PS: I got them both years for MA with not so great applications. I wonder if they're harder to get for phd or just weird luck.
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The website still says "A panel of 3 university professors will be adjudicating OGS applications and we expect that the results will be available early May 2012. Please check back at that time."
They should know that as soon as we go past May 15th is starts to be "late May" not "early May." So I hope they publish something soon.
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Received the letter in Vancouver yesterday. Got waitlisted at 16.8.
Not sure what that actually means. How could they get more funding? Is it dependent on Harper deciding to give more to the Social Sciences and Humanities? Because, yeah, that sounds likely.
Some people may turn down SSHRC for Vanier or Fulbright, or even decide not to do a PhD. So the money goes into the waitlist.
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You got 18/30 and you're in political science? I got 18/30 and got rejected. Womp womp.
The points are not really comparable across the fields or even in the same discipline. They're only comparable inside the committee that evaluated that pile of applications. So the both of you were in different committees, for sure. It makes it so much harder to guess things... :/
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I wanted to compare the scores and such so I put this little table together (hope the formatting works). Perhaps folks will find this interesting and update their info (?). These are some pretty sobering statistics from a pretty brutal process (imho). I was waitlist last year with a score of 14.9. It looks like we’ll need to score much higher this year to have a chance. Here’s the butcher's bill so far:
Applicant, Status, Score, Discipline
Cancomm, Offered CGS, 18.5, Communications
bedalia, Offered CGS / Will decline (good!), 21.15, ?
Deezkneezm, Offered CGS / downgrade to fellowship, 26.6, History of Christianity
CassandraC, Offered fellowship, 25.8, ?
electrochoc, Offered CGS, 18.7?
Andsowego, Not successful, ?, ?
ducon_lajoie, Not successful, ?, ?
soimpossible618, Offered Fellowship, 22.95, English Literature
Blurry, Waitlisted, 18.5, Philosophy
DMMS18, Waitlisted, 16.7, ?
Howmuchlonger, Not successful, ?, Social theory and health
I'm in interdisciplinary studies applying for PoliSci phd if it helps. So weird how cutoff scores vary so much according to disciplines. I guess they expect different things from different areas right..
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I think the cutoffs vary according to disciplinary committee. But be hopeful!
That makes sense. I'm in the Social Sciences and in my particular discipline we're not expected to publish a lot (for example) in the MA, hence why an 18.7 could be low compared to other scores, but still good enough for my discipline to guarantee a super SSHRC apparently.
But people in the waitlist, don't lose hope! There's always a good amount of rejections every year in lieu of other big scholarships.
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Rejected. Didn't even get on the waiting list this year, even though the "score" they gave me was significantly higher than the one I got last year (when I did get on the waiting list). I'm in the final year of my PhD program, so this was the last chance for me. It's really disappointing, but such is life in academia. For those who are wondering, I'm in Ontario. Good luck to everyone who is still waiting!
I'm sorry. It's so weird with the higher score, maybe it's the budget cuts. They don't realize how much these cuts can change the life of a phd student.
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I'm in QC across the river from Ottawa. Mail came earlier than expected today, thank God.
Successful, 18.7/30 score. A category (so CGS/Super-SSHRC)
A/A+ GPA
Conference presentations
Non-refereed publications
Work experience in the field
TA/RA experience
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So it's the first day of spring. I can officially start to bite my nails in anxiety for results.
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For PhD, with January deadlines from Jan 5th to Jan 31st, it took me between 3 weeks to 6 weeks to get all offers back.
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Does anyone know if Canadian funding packages are negotiable?
It seems like the offers are standardized unless you've been nominated for an award. However, the $15k minimum to go to Toronto seems rather low compared to $16k offered by McGill to live in Montreal which is far cheaper.
If you have other good offers on the table, they're always negotiable. That said, it might not always be wise to negotiate them if you know what I mean, it could reflect badly on you.
Some departments will just have no other money though, so even if you try to negotiate there is nothing they can do.
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Hi,
I've been nominated for York University'sGFAD and Chancellor Bennett graduate scholarships. Does anyone know when we are suppose to hear back about our acceptance/rejection?
THANKS!
I was nominated for the Elia and was told it takes between 5 to 10 days to hear about it. So since they're similar type of awards at York, I assume a similar timeline for the Bennett.
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Who has been your point of contact there? If you have a POI, then you could approach them tactfully. If not, I'd go through the department head. Though again the key word is tactfully, if you don't have a lot of sway it might actually hurt you. But the POI is usually the way to begin.
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Offer was 15k + tuition, based on TAship (not sure the workload). Seems to be the same standard offer as last year and others this year. A bit thin considering cost of living in TO compared to slightly higher offer for McGill. McGill's guaranteed funding includes TA and RA though, so if you can manage to get an RA job at Toronto than it would be a decent deal. All this depends on expected workload for these positions though....
True. Hopefully it's no more than the standard 10 hour a week TAship. Congrats!!
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Accepted by email to Poli Sci (comparative).
Anyone else who's accepted and considering attending please PM me and we can chat about research interests.
Hey chibuku, do you mind if I ask you if it was a good offer? I had heard that U of T Pols was not offering much this year (and that probably the people at the bottom of list won't even get a TAship if they get accepted).
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Sorry for the late response. I was waiting for my offer from Carleton to back-up what I wanted to say. Definitely depends on the program, but at the masters level the funding tends to be more TA/RA positions. Carleton's offer to me is the equivalent of a fully funded masters (though maybe not living as comfortable as some would desire) - so it is possible! I am under the impression, though, that Carleton tends to be quite generous in that regard.
I do agree that Carleton is on the generous side. It tends to offer at least some funding, whereas some universities might offer close to nothing. It kind of depends on the department though...
Also, just a little note on the Rawls discussion: it's leading the thread a bit off topic so maybe the Political Science forum may be more appropriate for that
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I am recently comparing among several PoliSci offers, one of them is BC's MA in Poli Sci (Political Theory). I am shocked to find that, on poliscijobrumors.com, a huge amount of people speak extremely lowly of it. Someone says it is bad simply because its faculty members are Straussians. And someone just warns that "Do not go there if you want an academic job."
Although I know that the department ranks low, but I am considering it because the program is small, because the campus locates near Harvard (I may take advantage to audit some classes there, I suppose.), and because, insofar as I know, I don't think its PT faculties are so notorious.
So what I want to ask is: Considering its quality (not price), is this program in PT so bad? Is it really so unpromising to study PT with "Straussians?" (I am a foreigner and don't quite know the academic atmosphere in the US...) And, do the above assumptuous advantages really exist?
I would appreciate any response, positive or negative, to my post. Thanks!
So, I speak not of experience, but based on what my friends in PT say. Straussians can be well connected and get you good jobs, but they tend to only accept certain interpretations and be very critical of other positions (metaphysics etc). However, even in a dept full of Straussians, you can still find non-Straussians that can help you through.
In PT, just like in other fields or maybe even more, your supervisor really does matter. Their reference letter and name can really open doors, so I'd make that decision considering your POIs in Boston first. Maybe somebody else can help out further
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So do accept other offers
you may open new positions for us 
ahah just a jock, congratulations to both of you for the acceptance.Well, that's the point of not being sure
I can't say for sure I will reject any of the offers I have at this point (and unfortunately, I think I won't be sure a for a while) I hope I feel confident enough to make a decision by next week! I haven't even heard from all schools yet though. -
Yeah, I called York PoliSci just few minutes ago. The Graduate coordinator of the program said that they just reviewed the domestic applicants and they will review international applications next week, most probably I will hear news next week.
Great, foucaulmania! I'm glad your wait will be over soon!
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If I get the offer by e-mail, I usually contact the graduate assistant thanking for the offer and maybe add some question I might have about the program (or something like confirming the deadline for acceptance). Not everybody does this, but I think it's polite and they usually reply to me with a nice you're welcome and the answer.
By phone I thank right there on the spot. By mail I just don't do anything. Just get back to them with an acceptance or rejection later.
So I guess there's really no protocol. But the times I've done this, I began contacting grad assistants early on and they were all very helpful, so I think thanking them is the least I could do.
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Got a call on Friday (March 2) from York for PoliSci PhD. Admitted with generous funding package + additional internal scholarships. They called me because I had inquired earlier due to additional offers on the table. Also got accepted into UVic PhD a couple weeks ago, but will be accepting the York offer. Anyone who is yet to hear should call because they will be able to tell you, otherwise the letters will arrive in 7-10 days.
Carleton has a good program, few interesting 'Canadianists' such as William Walters (critical migration/security) and Yasemeen Abu-Laban, Christina Gabriel (immigration theorists). York is far more into Modern/Early Modern Political Thought, Critical/Marxist/Security approaches to IR, political economy of labour, and the comparative program is pretty strong.
McGill and UBC have strong programs, but boring research interests. Richard Price and Mark Warren are good at UBC, and their placement is pretty strong, but most of the research interests aren't my thing. McGill does boring sorts of practical ethics, public philosophy, political theory, multiculturalism and other Rawlsian garbage. Cheerleaders for liberalism. Their students do well though.
UVic is a great school but can only offer peanuts unfortunately.
I guess we both heard from York PoliSci Phd at the same time! However I'm not sure how likely it will be for me to accept York's offer. I do like the Marxist weight of York, but I have other offers who are just as good on the table that will make more sense for me and my family.
And yes, Rawls = garbage.
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Zoegrrl hit the nail on the head. It's income but it's not taxable provided you're a full time student. If you're part time I think the rules are a bit different.
I find the word "fellowship" is tossed around a lot, and sometimes it's taxable, sometimes it's not depending on how it's defined. I know my scholarships are not taxable and my fellowship that I'm paid to do MY OWN research is also not taxable. A separate RAship or TAing is taxable.
I do think you still need to report it though.
Good point. I think when I used the word fellowship I was referring to the SSHRC post-doctoral fellowships, which their website states are taxable. Thanks for reminding me that I should have clarified that.
The point is that whether it is taxable or not, it is income and must be reported. The difference is that non-taxable income ends up deducted somewhere later in the forms and then it won't be taxable (counts for gross income but not net taxable income).
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Timeline conscious, not really.
What I could not stand, though, is to have a gap year in which I'm not in school at least doing something. In other words, it's already too late to apply for somewhere else for Fall 2012, and I would not be comfortable just dropping out at the end of the semester and applying to other places for Fall 2013.
Depending on the department and school, it might not be still to late. It's basically too late for funding though, which basically makes the whole difference for most of us. There are a few fields where there are phd admissions for january, but very rare though.
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Wow, that's tough. I guess there's no way of ever knowing which decision is the best decision or the worst one. But I think it depends on how you look at the time you've spent so far. Would you be ok of letting the first year of studies go and start all over, taking longer (and more money) to complete your degree at another place where you can never be sure will remain a "healthy" department? Or are you a lot more timeline conscious and can't deal with the possibility of having to start over?
In my experiences, sometimes I hate my university and some faculty members, it makes me question the choice of academia as a whole. But if I give time I find I can concentrate on other aspects of it that make it a lot more doable, and then I just think about what my end goal is and focus on that. If there's anything at the school that might make it worthwhile to stick with it, then maybe it's not that worrisome. But if you think the whole thing is doomed, then you still have enough time to start over.
OGS Status Update Anyone?
in The Bank
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In my case when I had the OGS it limited internal scholarships too up to 10k, it sucked because it mad eme ineligible for extra scholarships through the year too. TAships and RAships don't count, but the university said the internal awards counted towards the limit.