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  1. Hi everyone,

    I was wondering if any of you know how much spots are open currently for the Fall 2013 admittance. I've been waitlisted here and two other places. Wish me luck.

     

    Hi Aznslp! I know that in total there are 50 spots in the program.  But I don't know how many became open after the first round of offers.  I've seen on the results search that a few people got called yesterday off the waitlist.  Maybe call PSU and ask where you are on the waitlist?  Good luck :)

  2. Thanks for the info slpnut!  I've gotten to talk to a couple of grad students recently as well (from PSU) and they have said they are pretty happy and feel they get enough support from the faculty.  I went to the info session and learned some new things as well.  I didn't realize we could potentially do three externships, which I'm happy about.  I can see how there will likely be competition for placements, but hopefully it will be a little better than living somewhere like New York or the Bay Area where there are even more programs sending students out.  I'm leaning towards accepting at PSU on Monday, but it's a big decision to make.  And then I have to worry about hearing from my wait-lists!  Have any of you made an acceptance decision yet?

     

    Ya I thought the info session was really helpful too! I even emailed some faculty afterwards to ask a few additional questions and they were all really great, except for one who still hasn't replied.

     

    Also, saw the giant grad student lounge.  With computers!  And a fridge!  Ultimately, definitely not a deal breaker, but it was nice to see there's a space I didn't even know existed!

     

    Its nothing glamourous but I'm thankful for that fridge haha

     

    whaddya all decide?

     

    So I'm still waiting on one more school, but had to go ahead and accept PSU as the deadline was yesterday.  Even if I get into Pacific off the waitlist I think I'm set on PSU- I think I'll have more opportunities there.

     

    What about you guys eiphos and squirrel??

  3. From what I have been told by PSU grad students, the first year at PSU you observe other grad students in the clinic. I think you would learn a lot more getting out in the real world right away and observing certified SLPs working in real-life environments.

     

    Others may feel differently but personally for me, it is a better choice to go with Pacific as I have several years of work experience in another field and I don't think I would have the patience (at this point because of my past experience) sitting observing other grad students for a year who are also learning.

     

     

    Yes, at PSU you observe grad students whereas at Pacific you are immediately observing professionals.  I think this is one of the biggest perks of going to Pacific, although I am also on the wait list and didn't make tier 1 so I will probably not be going!  I think most graduate programs have you observe grad students, so PSU does not differ from the average institution in that way.  I have had professors at PSU mention to me that they would rather we observed SLP's, so at least they are sensitive to the fact that grad students are not always perfect examples for us!

     

    I've been talking to a 1st year PSU grad student and she's been able to give me a lot of information about how all of the clinical works for PSU.  She said that you complete 3 different clinics in the 1st year in 3 areas- 1 pediatric, 1 adult, then another pediatric or adult (you can let the clinic coordinator know if you have  particular interest in one area over the other and she'll try to make it work for you.) Once you have three PSU clinics under your belt (and are taken off probationary status), you are elligible for externshipships. She said that "Having clinic" means you have clients and will be assessing them, creating goals for the term, writing reports, making lesson plans, and administering treatment.  And that you are not just observing grad students but it is more hands on.

     

    She also had an interesting take on the difference between the on-campus clinic and Pacific sending you out into the community: This is the way I look at it: at Pacific, you're paying for something you could have coordinated on your own as an undergrad/post-bacc. At PSU, you get right into it and get your feet wet in terms of working with clients.  Pacific doesn't have their own clinic so they've chosen to have the first semester be structured observations in the community. PSU does have their own clinic, so the students are given structured guidance in a clinic setting.

     

    I see her point- in that many of us have already observed SLP's in their clinics, etc. as part of our experience to get into grad school.  If thats what we are going to be doing with Pacific again, at least for the first term, its true, it is something we could even arrange ourselves to do right now.

     

    In terms of externships: It's different for the medical (hospital) placements, skilled nursing facilities (SNF), and schools.  Most of the externships for hospitals have an application process (and possible an interview).  The SNF placements and schools are based on your preference which you give to the clinic coordinator by ranking them. From what I gather it's highly likely to get the school and SNF placements you are interested in, it's the hospital placements where you may have your heart set on it and you don't get it.  It's unlikely you wouldn't get any of your top choices.  We're not just competing with PSU grad students for medical placements anymore, Pacific University (and some U of O I've heard) students are applying for them also.

     

    Hope this info helps you guys! It really helped me to understand the PSU program a bit better.  And hopefully there will be some more good info at the session with the PSU chair this week. :)

  4. They called me this afternoon! My stats are 3.83 GPA from my last 20, with a 4.0 GPA in prerequisites. I did a BA Honours in Psychology and a Certificate in Speech and Language Sciences. I have 100 hours of volunteering with adults and children at two different clinics, I volunteered on a 5 different research projects, completed a thesis, one conference presentation, and a ran a few societies. I hope this helps! Let me know if you want to know anything else! :)

     

    Thanks for the info :) Great stats! Congrats again on getting into your first choice :)

  5. Hi guys! 

    I was accepted to UofA today - is anyone else going there? Let me know - it's my top choice and I would love to touch base with others heading to Edmonton! :)

     

    Wow congratulations Speechie2013!  Don't know if you've been following this forum, but we've all been anxiously waiting for some news from UofA haha

     

    How did they contact you- email or phone? And also, would you be willing to share your stats? Thanks and congrats again!

  6. Hi Everyone

     

    I just found out today that I'm on the waiting list at U of T. I was wondering if anyone knows how long the list is? I've emailed them to find out my position, but I don't want to get my hopes up if the list is super long! 

    Does anyone know roughly how many people are usually accepted from the waiting list/ what's been the norm in previous years?

     

    Congratulations to all of you who have received acceptances!

     

    Congrats Morgan3! Did you already receive the letter or did you email to find out as well?

  7. I made an email inquiry to make sure that a previous email was received before the deadline... it was and when I was emailed back, I was told I was wait listed. The wait list responses are in the mail apparently!

     

    UWO let me know that I am in the bottom third of the wait list... so it seems that chances are pretty slim there.

     

    Thanks speechapp! I will contact UT if I don't receive the letter soon.  Hopefully you hear some good news back from UT or UWO waitlist :)

  8. I think U of T sent out acceptances via email through the night/this morning through an automated system. Looking at the responses from previous years, it appears that people received rejection and wait list responses via snail mail.

     

    Thanks speechapp! I haven't received an acceptance email so I can expect a rejection or waitlist then I'm guessing.

  9.  I just got the same email!! I have no idea what it means...

     

     

    I just got the same email.  To clarify- some people did receive acceptance emails from UT today? Has anyone received waitlist emails from UT?

     

    My feeling was that if I was going to get an acceptance, it would be by email, so the fact that they are mailing me something means a rejection- what do you guys think?

     

    Congrats to all those accepted to UT and UWO!!! :)

     

    Any word on UofA? 

  10. Squirrel- I agree about the happy tree comment haha I don't know what it is about them!

     

    I pay out-of-state tuition, so the difference between PSU and Pacific is really not much.

     

    Do you mean that at PSU you observe grad students, but at Pacific you observe certified SLP's?  Someone recently mentioned this to me.

     

    Ahh its so confusing, but as of now I'm still on the Pacific waitlist so don't really have a decision to make yet haha I agree that Pacific seemed more pleasant than PSU so I'm really not sure what to think!

     

    Thanks for your feedback :)

  11. I was just thinking about the cohort size at PSU- they are not doing a summer cohort this year, so do you know if they will still be admitting 50 students?  I didn't think to ask this when I spoke to one of my profs last week about being accepted.

     

    I know that Pacific faculty were handpicked for their teaching skills, which is somewhat rare for a university program.  As mentioned,  I do really like the faculty I have chatted with at PSU, but they were probably hired for more global reasons.  I wonder if the friendliness of grad students at Pacific has to do with the fact that it was an interview day?  They knew that we were all prospective students and I'm sure the people who volunteered are exceptionally happy with the program.  This isn't to say the feeling isn't genuine, I am just wondering if they are truly representative of the whole group.  Have you spoken to students outside of the interview day?  I think this is also worth taking into consideration when thinking about grad students at PSU, although you may have interacted with more of them since you are involved in two labs.

     

    When I went to the grad student panel last year at PSU (2011-2012) the grad students were all happy with the program and described themselves as a family.  They had all volunteered their time though, so again, they are probably among the most satisfied students.  

     

    Another big difference to think about is that Pacific practicums are all in the community, which makes their program very unique.  I was very interested in that aspect of the program.

     

    If it came down to it, I would probably choose PSU over Pacific (although there are other schools I am still waiting on).  The cost of PSU is cheaper and I am a bit wary of going to such a new program.  I was really excited about the program on the interview day, but they do not seem ready to suit my personal interests.  There is no research going on yet (which you did mention is not a game changer for you) and the faculty doesn't quite fit my professional area of interest.  However, I can vouch that Dr. Mandulak and Dr. Lemoncello are great professors,  and I probably would not have earned such a solid A in A + P if it had been taught by someone other than Dr. Lemoncello.  

     

    So I heard back from Rebecca Field and she said they are not doing a summer and fall start.  They are admitting 50 student, all of whom will start in Fall 2013.  There will still be two cohorts though, I guess just meaning that you will take classes in a slightly different order- which could be good because you will be with the same 25 students throughout the 2 years, so then perhaps the larger class size of 50 wouldn't make a huge difference.

     

    No, I haven't spoken to any Pacific students outside of interview day and you are right that it could be that they were representative of those who really loved the Pacific program.  I just feel that they were really genuine, and did give both sides of the story because a few of them did let us know there were issues with this being a new program and that they did have to go to the profs and say hey this isn't working- but the good thing was that it seemed the profs were very receptive to feedback.  At PSU, I don't know how receptive they would be to student feedback since the program is already well established.  I think it was just this really warm feeling and sense of community at Pacific- and I'm not sure if thats just cause it was interview day and they were on their best behaviour and feeding us brownies and cookies haha

     

    I agree that a lot of PSU students have great things to say about the graduate program and really enjoy it.  I was also trying to compare coursework and it looks like PSU has more variety of children and adult courses, whereas Pacific seems to have more adult speciality?  I am interested in working with children but I also want to learn it all and be versatile, so then PSU would be much better. Between Dr. Larsen, Dr. Costanza-Smith and Dr. Donaldson, they really know what they're doing when it comes to children.

     

    I'm glad you brought up practicums- one of the things I liked about Pacific was that observations, and all clinical is off-campus which brings a nice change in environments daily.  Whereas with PSU you're mainly in Neuberger basement 5 days a week :S  How do you think their clinical experiences compare? Someone was telling me that you do practicum immediately in the 2nd semester? Whereas at PSU they make you observe grad students for way longer? I am a bit confused about this.

     

    Great discussion :)

  12. Thanks Slpnut!! 

    This waiting game is awful, I check my e-mail about 10 times a day!

     

    I have a subGPA of 3.86 and an overall GPA of 3.56 in my undergrad. I have over 300 hours volunteer in SLP with adults and children and a year of research experience as well as additional volunteer in OT. (Last year I had a 3.54 subGPA and was waitlisted if that helps!) 

     

    I am not sure how it works with the undergrad and then your post-bacc but from what I have heard they usually base most of the emphasis on your subGPA.. so your last 20 half-credits (or 10 full-credits) which if they take your post-bacc into consideration,works in your favour!  Sorry I can't be more helpful! 

     

    Your welcome!!

     

    Wow that sounds like some great stats so I'm sure you'll be hearing some good new soon!  My ORPAS sub-GPA was calculated quite low at 3.2 something I believe.  But my pre-req's were mostly all A's so not sure how they will weigh them out. I had a few bad classes in my last 20 courses :S

     

    And yes they did include the first semester of my post-bac but its only 4 classes so even though the grades were good, I don't think it made as huge of an impact.

     

    But we shall see!

  13. Out of curiosity- what are everyone's stats? If you feel comfortable sharing.  undergrad degree, GPA, GRE, experience?  I feel like the grades are really inflated in the states and a 3.8 here is not really hard to get like a 3.8 in Canada.  So I'm wondering if I have a chance with the Canadian schools or not.

     

    I have an undergrad degree in Psychology (Canada) with GPA 3.05, post-baccalaureate in Speech and Hearing Science (in progress- USA) with GPA 3.91, 1.5 years in an SLP clinic volunteering, research experience during my post-bac, international volunteering experience, 306/4.0 GRE.

     

    As you can see my undergrad GPA is really low! Yet I still got admitted in the states because of the post-bac GPA- so not sure how Canadian schools are going to look at it :S Probably not favourably haha

  14. Hey everyone!!

     

     

    I'm so glad I found this thread! I felt like I was the only one waiting on Canadian schools! 

    This is my second time applying (wait listed last year) and I am so anxious. I am applying to Uof T, Western and U of A.

     

     I know in the past few years a lot of people have heard back from U of A around now, has anyone heard back from them this year yet?!!? 

     

    Good luck to everyone and congrats to the people who have already been accepted!!! 

     

    Welcome AllThingsSLP!

     

    I emailed Noriko Major at the end of February to ask when we'd hear back and if it was going to be April 1st like the ORPAS schools.  And she said it would be BY April 1st, so I'm guessing we will know soon!

  15. AJV- as far as pros/cons:

     

    another thing to consider is where you want to end up living and working. SLP is a great field b/c you could probably get a job anywhere but you will be most connected right off the bat in the city you go to gradschool and thus better chance of getting a more desirable job right off the bat. I have a masters in another field and I ended up working in the city I got my masters in for almost 9 years. So that is something to also take into consideration.  

     

    I don't really feel like a number at PSU (as some people say) and everyone has been very helpful and super nice. And it is very cool they have a stellar post-bacc program.  Where would we be without PSU?  It is worth trying to find out though if there are some faculty members you are going to connect with and who could serve as mentors. 

     

    Ya I agree with you Squirrel- if there is a specific area of interest we have, and there are faculty interested in the same areas then they could be great mentors. I don't think this would be hard to find, as they seem to be pretty even in terms of faculty who have a child emphasis and faculty with an adult emphasis.

     

    And also, as far as I know, no one has received waitlist info about PSU yet, just acceptances.

     

    Thanks!  I don't know if they sent all the letters out on the same day, but I feel like they should!  So tired of acceptances being made before any other info goes out...I was going crazy about Pacific earlier this week!  

     

    I'm mixed in feelings about the faculty...I get the impression that post-baccs don't see them much because of budget issues- it's just cheaper for the university to hire adjuncts to teach the undergrad classes.  I do wish we got to see more of them though.  I think it would be worth finding some current grad students to  talk to.  Agree that the cost is a definite pro!  

     

    Good luck Squirrel, still may not be too late for good news!

     

    So I got waitlisted for Pacific! I was really impressed with their program and faculty when I went for the interview, and just felt the program was more intimate.  What do you think?  There seem to be a lot of differences between the two programs and I don't know what I would do if I got admitted into Pacific- what would you do?

     

    Pacific:

    30 student intake

    very new program- but may not have very established community connections?

    took some of the PSU faculty

    semester system

    located further away

    seems to be balanced in terms of adult and child emphasis

    nicer facility

    grad students seem to genuinely get along and be a family

     

    PSU:

    50 student intake

    very well-established and recognized program- well affiliated in the community

    faculty may be less approachable? perhaps not as eager with students as pacific?

    quarter system

    central location

    balanced in terms of adult and child emphasis

    basement of Neuberger

    grad students don't seem as friendly?- anytime I've had to walk into the grad lab

     

    Thoughts?

  16. This is my second year doing post-bacc at PSU and my letter also definitely explicitly said I was admitted.  mmsmith23, I would advise you to get in touch and ask for some specifics.  

     

    I've talked to some grad students who are very happy there, but I think it depends on what you are looking for.  For instance, if you are interested in being part of faculty research, I haven't had the impression that there are that many opportunities for students to be involved.  That being said, I feel like as a post-bacc here it is hard to get a sense of what the grad program will be like, because so many of our classes are taught by adjuncts.  It seems like most of the faculty time is spent with the grad students, which would appear to be a plus.  The faculty I have had the opportunity to get to know a little better seem very committed to the students.

     

    I am definitely considering PSU, but depends on what my final results are.  

     

    I'm a one-year post-bac and while research isn't my primary interest, I have gotten involved in a couple labs.  Profs seemed pretty approachable if you want to get involved. But for me, the research isn't the main concern of the grad program.  I'm a bit more concerned about there being 50 students- do you think this is a negative?  I agree, we've been taught by more adjuncts, but definitely the faculty that I've gotten to know have been very helpful and passionate about teaching.

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