shuette
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I would like to offer this to everybody - what's meant to be will be. I'm a determinist, and I assume many of you are. If you're on a course better pursued by a tv gig, cool. If not, sweet. If no nsf, also okay. Maybe many of you obsessives identify with me when I say this isn't just a career, this is my life. Makes it emotionally investing, huh? However, honorable mention is highly regarded, and to make it even sweeter, we'll all kick ass in subsequent years and show them how they really really should have funded us in the early years. I just 'defended' my first year project and they all said "You did this in one year!?" etc. All I did was work my pants off and hope for the best, and apparently it was impressive. I'm still not satisfied though, and I won't be satisfied even if I do get the fellowship. If anything, I'll work harder after I hear either way. Whether that's to prove them wrong or do them proud is the only thing in my mind that's uncertain.
But money always makes the process more comfortable
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Yeah, there are only so many ways to optimize search algorithms. What will really blow your mind is how well stuff like diffusion of chemicals inside organism cells scales up to diffusion of animals across a landscape. Biology+Math=awesome.
Whoa. Maybe diffusion of chemicals inside cells scales up to diffusion of something like a perceptual category from incoming exemplars. E.g. learning. That would rock my pants off. Math is fun.
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I'm looking at Leakey and a ton of other little biology and primatology grants--I'll probably apply to W-G, but it's a stretch unless they like my argument that primate foraging is relevant to human foraging evolution.
I'm no biologist, but there's a postdoc here who is doing work on how eye-movement patterns and how one searches their memory during recall is characterized by the same equation as animal foraging. Foraging rules.
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If additional awards are coming from ARRA money, that's going to be weird. Maybe they're trying to find a way around this being from the ARRA money? Does anyone know if it has to come from there or no? Cause it wouldn't really create jobs for others... just us. Some of the stipulations on that money seem like they don't fit the grfp goals, so I'm confused.
Maybe they're confused too.
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I know something about crazy, and so it's not unlikely that they've established next years budget before this years. I am just now getting around to emailing them about my status, I'll let you guys know if they tell me anything useful, though I kind of just asked a yes/no question.
I hope someone is pushing for an increase in the pool of awardees and the battling is why this is taking so long. There must be some degree of disagreement at various stages, otherwise I think they'd just push it through. Not only do we have no idea, but I think different levels may have different ideas about how important it is to increase the awardee pool THIS year, and not just for next. Hence why no one has any idea about anything. Go team LotsAwards! Fight fight fight!
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I know - where the hell is Merced? It's in the heartland of california, 2 hours from everything awesome. Yosemite, santa cruz, san francisco, carmel, and any number of nice places are close by.
Some of the top scientists in the country and being tempted away from their home universities by UC Merced. As one of the very few grad students here, I thought I'd open up the discussion for questions like...
Where is Merced?
What is campus like?
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Are you crazy?
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A new update--this one's even more dismal!
That just looks like a form letter they've probably been sending out for weeks now. I think we've all kind of given up - it's strange. I've been half celebrating in my head for weeks now. We know we at least got HM, which is party-worthy. But don't quite know how much to celebrate in case we got the fellowship. So party half of the brain is going "WHOOO!!!" and common sense part of the brain has been going "SHHHHH! not yet..." and so the excitement has been half as intense and twice as long. But then when the notice comes I'll already be partied out - I've already celebrated. So it's kind of a thrill rip off, huh? Like that roller coaster that looks more fun in line than the 5 seconds of it actually is.
When I find out either way, I've already gone through all the simulations, so the magic will be gone. Maybe that's a good thing though...
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And um, shuette, wouldn't it be worth it to write a good first year project....anyways?
Hehehehe. Of course. I work obsessively cause I love it, it'll have some good work in it. I just want to know how cocky I get to be at my first committee meeting
That's too bad for you guys who won't be able to continue - even with an HM though, I would think you should be able to find another program that wants you and will hand you fistfuls of money, it's a huge honor that very few grad students ever get to have bestowed upon them.
And yes, this is the best reason to procrastinate EVER.
I'm a huge suck-up, but I'm buddies with my advisors - I get them x-mas presents and new baby gifts and stuff like that, but I like giving presents anyway so it's not out of character it doesn't seem like. Anyway, that's my justification for brown-nosing, plus I have enormous respect for what they've been through and where they are now, right? They deserve students who bake them cookies.
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So it's been two weeks... I've been telling everybody I'm one or the other for two weeks now, and I would really like to find out. Doesn't anyone out there have a connection? I'd love to know so I know if I need to write a really good 1st year project, or I can just be like "Screw you, I RULE!" Huh, anyone with me?
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Oh the fantasies -- get back to work!
Just kidding.
I've been overly distractable lately. Managed to concentrate and buckle down a little, but half of my mind is working on preparing for celebration of either HM or a fellowship, going through multiple scenarios of how this affects my career down the line, etc. Ah, to be human. I feel fortunate I have the privilege of being able to experience this though, as we are a very select few who no doubt got here with much help and a spark of luck.
I say just go with it - keep the dream alive, but expect the HM. Don't be depressed Higgins, you obviously kicked some ass if you're still waiting. Be optimistic, but don't have expectations, that's the key here.
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Good call blah2009 - all I know for sure is that those of us posting, this means a lot to us and we're probably overthinking it and really have no idea. The best thing for our sanity is to think in terms of rejection or HM - they've already put out a lot of fellowships. And I'm sure they don't care about our anxiety - we're adults and presumably can be fairly patient and be able to handle rejection.
Or at least pretend that we can
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Oh man, I don't think we need to be that impatient and call the director. I'm sure enough people are annoying whoever it is already in-house.
Okay, so is the consensus now that those of us waiting in limbo have honorable mention and have a possibility of getting funded? I really hope they'll release something to let us know at least that. I too am crossing my fingers and hoping for some recovery money/prestige, but I really think they'll only choose maybe 10 more people (at the most) or so based on previous years.
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I did this last year -- my situation was I had 3 schools trying to get me, and for one of them, the mentor I wanted to work with I wouldn't be able to meet with until April 17th. Yeah. So, at the behest of my undergrad advisor, I asked for an extension from the other two schools, very politely. Ask the advisor you are going to work with there -- many times they will be able to advocate on your behalf to extend the deadline. If they strictly adhere to the deadline (which I doubt they will), then you'll just have to make a fast decision, but I really doubt they will deny you an extra week to think things over.
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i am in limbo and am worried that i might have deleted a message from my spam filter. i cleaned it out this morning and didn't look closely to see if it included something from nsf, ugh.
I encourage people to put in a call at 866 673 4737. right now, there is a recording; if my interpretation is correct, the woman says that all rejections were sent out, and that HMs and any additional awards will be announced at a later date.
If you call tomorrow during the day, you can talk to someone in the call center, as I did earlier today. they can tell you definitively if you are still being considered, or if you have been rejected...
Were you rejected or still being considered?
They may want to limit the number of honorable mentions (so as to make it more meaningful - it's one of the most prestigious awards at this point in the career, not a carnival toy). I did not interpret the message as ALL the rejections have been sent. They may still reject some people in limbo completely. I'm hoping that's not the case (because that's where I am), but it's better not to get your hopes TOO high.
The language they are using is highly ambiguous (trust me, I'm a psycholinguist), so I would say, don't get your hopes up, and if you do get it... PARTY TIME!
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Oh okay, the I dialed the 866 number and it sounds like this:
If you are rejected, you're rejected
If you don't know yet, it's going to be either rejection or Honorable mention, possibly, though probably not, a fellowship.
They've already put out more fellowships than they did in the past two years, so I doubt many more fellowships will be forthcoming.
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Driving me nuts: I know two people who have been rejected and I haven't received word yet. Is it the case that they limit the number of honorable mentions each year? If that's the case, it sounds like there still might be another round of rejections sent out. If not, then it's either the very very unlikely fellowship, or the honorable mention. Anyone been able to find out what's going on with the limbo people yet? This is going to drive me nuts.
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WHOOO!!!!! HM! YES!!!!!