ouais Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Well, I'm a top class CS student in a five year program majoring in AI, I did several relatively big projects within coursework and some extracurricular, published a book about computer for children, I have 2 internships under my belt one in an ERP firm, the largest software firm where I come from, the other from a research house where I did socioeconomics, participated in programming contests, math contests and I'm very likely to graduate top of my class. I'm not an american and where I come from, research is very limited and the culture of working on a research in summer is inexistent. However I will try to do some research of my own this summer, my current project is on sentiment analysis in documents. I'd appreciate some advice on what do you think I need most to strengthen my application, like everyone else, I dream of getting to one of the top schools, MS or PhD programs (preferably PhD), the likes of MIT, CMU, Berkley, Waterloo...etc Thanks alot
OH YEAH Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) Well, I'm a top class CS student in a five year program majoring in AI, I did several relatively big projects within coursework and some extracurricular, published a book about computer for children, I have 2 internships under my belt one in an ERP firm, the largest software firm where I come from, the other from a research house where I did socioeconomics, participated in programming contests, math contests and I'm very likely to graduate top of my class. I'm not an american and where I come from, research is very limited and the culture of working on a research in summer is inexistent. However I will try to do some research of my own this summer, my current project is on sentiment analysis in documents. I'd appreciate some advice on what do you think I need most to strengthen my application, like everyone else, I dream of getting to one of the top schools, MS or PhD programs (preferably PhD), the likes of MIT, CMU, Berkley, Waterloo...etc Thanks alot I don't think you have a very good chance at getting into MIT, CMU, or Berkeley at the moment. Things like "top of class", "projects in coursework", "internship in industry", "published a book for children", "participated in contests" are great, and I'm sure you've learned a lot from the experiences, but they don't really count for much in terms of PhD admissions: the currency of PhD admissions is research *with other people*. The most important part of your package is letters of recommendation from people who can attest to your research potential. My advice is to try to find a professor to work under over the summer. You can do your own stuff (that makes it all the more impressive ) but it is crucial that you have a mentor watching the progress of your project so you can get a good recommendation letter from them. Good luck! Edited May 11, 2011 by OH YEAH
ouais Posted May 12, 2011 Author Posted May 12, 2011 I don't think you have a very good chance at getting into MIT, CMU, or Berkeley at the moment. Things like "top of class", "projects in coursework", "internship in industry", "published a book for children", "participated in contests" are great, and I'm sure you've learned a lot from the experiences, but they don't really count for much in terms of PhD admissions: the currency of PhD admissions is research *with other people*. The most important part of your package is letters of recommendation from people who can attest to your research potential. My advice is to try to find a professor to work under over the summer. You can do your own stuff (that makes it all the more impressive ) but it is crucial that you have a mentor watching the progress of your project so you can get a good recommendation letter from them. Good luck! Thank you for the advice, I guess I will go for research this summer, thing is, in those "projects" I did previously, I had to do readings, make design choices, implementations, experimentations, along with teams of 2-3 people, with of course a professor watching over the progress, do you think such projects would classify under research? I thought they might cause the experience wasn't really a streamlined straightforward kind of thing, it was moreof a "pick a project idea" then "see what others did" then "try to improve", it also involved things research usually involves, I meet with my mentor once a week to discuss my progress, I meet my supervising engineer more frequently to discuss more technical issues, you go in the project not knowing if any meaningful result could come out of it...etc Do you think I should capitalize on such ideas in my statement of purpose? or are they irrelevant? thanks again
OH YEAH Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Unfortunately, I don't know the nature of your work so I can't comment. For instance, I worked independently, read stuff, and made design choices when I worked as a professional web designer, but I restricted my discussion of that to about 3 lines in my SoP. If you were improving on the state of the art, it sounds good, but I think the best person to ask would be the professor you worked under--if they think they can comment favorably and realistically on your research potential based on your work for them, then I think you're fine. (Of course, you might not get a straight answer, so take what they say with a grain of salt)
frenzydude Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 one of the top schools, MS or PhD programs (preferably PhD), the likes of MIT, CMU, Berkley, Waterloo...etc Waterloo is nowhere near the others you mentioned.
ouais Posted May 12, 2011 Author Posted May 12, 2011 Waterloo is nowhere near the others you mentioned. Thank you, and I'm aware, just wanted to see if someone might go that "it won't get u to MIT, but perhaps waterloo"
achapiro Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Waterloo is nowhere near the others you mentioned. It's almost like those IQ exams - Pick out the one that does NOT belong in this group: 1) Glove 2) Hat 3) Stove 4) Pants I almost read Stanford instead of Waterloo in that sentence...
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