sankd
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I read about 50 or so books a semester. I can't count the amount of articles. I wish I could give tips on how to read well, but I am one of those weird people who can churn out a good 750 word review less than two hours after picking a book up.
It goes in ebbs and flows. Next week I have seven books and four articles to read. I also need to produce 6500 words of thoughtful analysis on all of that reading. It's a busier week than usual.
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I prepped for my first year by backpacking through Eastern Europe, knowing that every other summer afterwards would be filled with work. This summer I bounce from Beirut to back here for intensive French, and then two weeks of writing lecture outlines for the class I am teaching this fall.
So my advice is, if you can spare the time, take advantage of that summer before your first year! It helped that I already had two research languages down before I started, but you'll never have a summer without major obligations ever again.
As for "summer prep reading," okay. I mean, I had my comps list set within the first couple weeks of my first semester. If you know your exam fields, it can't hurt.
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uh, I do mean if you want to be in academia...my particular source of info for SCs' wishes were from SLACs and R1s..
If you DON'T want to be in academia, then choose a brand-name program that's more recognizable to non-academic employers.
At the same time, there is still a weird segment of departments that want that program name - with the assumption that the candidate must be adequate coming from such a place - over the individual quality of the applicant. That was obvious at some of the AHA panels on the future of the profession. The academy still has a lot of bad habits.
Also, if you don't want to be in academia, connections always help! In fact, they probably help a lot more than in search committee/department politicking.
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Kind-of ironic given the bump in funding per student offered to the 2011 cycle. Oh well, at least Michigan will graduate some of its hundred Americanists. Hopefully.
Edit: Hopefully for the students applying for 2013, that is.
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My professors have consistently told me to skim. Let's be realistic.I was going to do it anyway.
Also, yeah. Grad school is work. Right now, I'm taking 15 credits and TAing, which is better than next year when I will be teaching, taking classes, and reading for comps. I think the total amount of reading I have this semester is 45 or 50 books. About 250-300 pages of writing. Counting is kind-of pointless.
Last summer I backpacked through Europe and visited friends across the country. I drank and ate and had fun. Why? Because from now on, my summers are pretty much gone. Research trips abroad, preparing for class, reading for comps. I need to take credits during the summer so I keep getting paid, too.
Then there's the non-school elements of being a first year graduate student. You should be devoting some time, in my opinion, to being social. We're not hermits 24/7. That takes energy too. Making connections in the community and with your colleagues is really important for your development and well-being. I have been on both ends of it.
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Thank you so much, you have no idea how encouraging your post was. I hope to find the right inspiration within the next months.
I was 29 when I started my MA, 31 with my PhD. Good luck!
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Just stay away from Classics, period.
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Really? What about Pandey at Emory? Cole does South Asia?
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Getting an MA is a good way to answer these questions. I was sure about what I wanted to do when I entered an MA program, and then changed completely by the end of my first year and never looked back. I still feel passionate about my first choice, but it's not what really drives me anymore.
A word of warning. Don't do something Indian unless you are prepared to learn one of the languages if you are interested in getting a PhD later on.
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I'm still forming my application list for next year (and I will continue to do so until I begin applying in Fall of 2012), but I plan to apply to 8-10 schools max. Although doing so might improve my chances, I cannot possibly see myself applying to over 10 schools.
It is a lot of money. I did 11.
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My questions is this: am I better off applying to MA programs first or should I shoot for PhD programs as well? Normally, I probably wouldn't hesitate and apply to MA programs. However, I'm not sure if having a JD, plenty of research experience, and sufficient language knowledge (fluent in 2 Middle Eastern languages) is enough reason to only shoot for PhD? Please help!
Apply to a mix of terminal MA and PhD programs. Don't put all of your eggs into one basket either way. It's nice to have options to weigh.
Also, if I were to go down the MA route, would I be able to apply to PhD programs during the second year of the MA? I really wouldn't wanna waste time by waiting until after I got the MA and sitting out a whole year to apply.Any and all input is much appreciated. I feel like no one applying next fall has the same educational background as me and this scares me and makes me feel lonely
Yes, you can apply to PhD programs during your second year of the MA. I did it.
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Yeah, frankly nobody takes a medievalist applicant seriously if they are lacking languages.
Get your French, German, Greek, and Latin done.
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One footnote; while many of you mentioned TA's (I assume these are the same as GA's?), I'm reading a book called "Getting What You Came For: The Smart Student's Guide to Earning an M.A. or a Ph.D.", and Robert Peters talks about getting stuck in school for additional years because schools are wasting students' time as cheap labor teaching classes at the expense of their education, and that by forgoing these "opportunities" a student is more likely to be able to devote more time to working on their thesis and graduate on time. Do you agree?
Also, regarding getting funding and getting into PhD vs MA programs, natsteel said, "I would apply to both PhD and MA programs because you could possibly end up getting an offer to do a PhD with funding." Do students ever apply to PhD programs with only the intention of getting their MA? For example, Rice University gives preferential admission to PhD's over MA's, and I'm wondering if students who apply there wanting an MA just outright lie and say, "Sure, I want my doctorate" with the intention of dropping out as soon as they reach MA status? What happens to funding you may have received as a PhD candidate if you don't finish your PhD - does it have to be paid back? Any comments?
Well, it's much less problematic if you are on an assistantship. You can always leave a PhD program with a MA. You can even leave at that juncture for another university - it's the only time you can do it without being completely stained with a scarlet letter. You and your program don't really have to worry about the funding you did have because you worked for it while you were there and your departure frees up a funding line for a new student.
For fellowship students, it is a little different but the general theme is the same. The department has a lot of students. They are concerned about their bottom line. You leaving with an MA after being accepted for 4-5 year funding is only going to impact your professional relationship with your advisor, if anything.
As for this supposed wasting time, I worked as a TA as a MA student and I finished all of my classes and my thesis in four semesters. I also did PhD applications this past cycle. While I was used for my labor, I was still able to make progress.
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school B.
you do not need someone who does exactly what you do in order to advise you. what you need is a critical eye, someone that will push you in your work and keep you on schedule and challenge you. YOU can figure out the historiography yourself. and frankly, you should. as professors, we will have to learn entire subfields on our own if our work takes us that way. given your current background, you should already know some of the major texts in your subject. look at their footnotes, see which books they ALL cite, move from there.
I don't think it should just be whether they can construct a prelims reading list of appropriate breadth. Frankly, you should have an advisor that will actually care about what you are doing. "Fit" often helps, but it doesn't necessarily mean that having the same exact research areas will motivate the professor to make time to read over your work, suggest research directions, make office time available for you, direct you to workshops/conferences, help with networking, and so on.
While that may sound like a whole load of hand-holding, I think mentoring still involves the little things like just showing up for your student's presentation. Letting your student know you got a fellowship to study abroad for a semester (and then Skyping if necessary). I know a lot of graduate students and a lot of professors, and some professors are just terrible advisors.
EDIT: I am lucky that I actually do have an advisor that cares about my work and career. They have fought for me publicly and privately. Which is why choosing to leave was not as easy as it would seem on paper.
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tanzimat and ottoman! i love reading these words on this forum. the site is becoming less euro- and american- centirc. great! no offense to europeanist and americanists.
Let's start talking about tulips and decline theory and make them feel weird!
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I don't really think you have any glaring worries, but remember this can be a bit of a crapshoot. Don't be anxious! Good luck.
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Also, I've heard of a book on Latinos in American baseball. Again, the author tied it into larger questions about identity and racism in the US. It got him tenure
Honestly, sports history is cool! We are in middle of the culture turn, so take advantage of it!Playing America's Game by Adrian Burgos (at UIUC)? Haha, I read that last semester.
And were you referring to Shaun Lopez on Egyptian soccer?
One of the big names in sports history is in my current department. He's big in boxing, not so much in MMA but in his current seminar he actually assigned a MMA book. For the OP, you'll probably have an uphill battle in terms of the sports history establishment (which is super weird because of the kinesiology/history divide within the discipline). That's not to say it can't be done. A buddy of mine recently wrote a seminar paper on the spread of martial arts in the 1970s, and its impact on American middle class culture. It's a really, really small niche.
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A top-rate department can weather a major loss, usually replacing a top scholar with another big name within a couple of years with relative ease. Not only that, top scholars are less likely to want to leave a top-shelf program, since they've already climbed to "the top" so to speak. A less-than-elite program can land a famous historian, lose him/her, and then have a hard time getting another one. So our well thought-out search for fit--sometimes with major sacrifice--is often more tenuous and risky than we think.
One wonders how the prestige of the UC's (or Wisconsin) will hold up in the coming years. I think their current perception will take a huge hit as they lose research resources, are unable to fill retirements/departures, and lack competitive funding for quality graduate students. It could end up streamlined like my MA institution. I think we're better because of our massive cutbacks.
Anyway, faculty retention is pretty pointless for graduate students. People coming and going can happen at any time, and ultimately the most important near-term concern is if Professor A is going to be around when you are a student in the department. Prestige of program, which is not correlative to money, should have a positive correlation with placement.
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Possibly a stupid question, but I'm just one my first cup of joe today...
Is there any sort of ranking that has been done by area of study....like say, Americanist? For example, I know one of my choices is highly ranked because of its overall ranking in another field (so clearly, that has been ranked).
Also, general poll....what is more important: prestige or advisor fit?
Ranked by what, the US News Subjective Opinion of 25% of Department Chairs in 2008?
The other question has gotten its own thread on this forum repeatedly. My short answer is that you need a good mix, since they both will have some impact on your future ability to get a job.
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Our potential advisors are under no illusions that applicants/prospectives discuss these things. The fact that it is on an internet forum - and thus a permanent record - shouldn't change anything.
@sidiosquiere: Yes, I discussed CASA with him. He wants me to do it (he also wants to redo it himself) if/when it restarts, but not for a couple of years. I should qualify skill-wise after next year anyway. As for your choice of schools, I think you should go with Option A, but the distance from home thing is a big deal too. You don't want to go to a program where you may be personally glum because of non-academic reasons. We all talk about toughing it out, but under those circumstances most of our work tends to get worse.
Let me know what happens! See you (and the other ME people) in DC this fall.
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Yeah, maybe option 2 would be a good option then. Do they offer FLAS? If option 1 has FLAS and option 2 does not, I personally would take option 1. If neither have FLAS, I would go to the program with the better language resources, IF you still need more language training. Are you planning on doing CASA?
They don't offer FLAS because they are completely privately funded. Option 1 has no FLAS. Nothing. No help at all for language study or research abroad.
CASA was suspended this year, right? I hopefully will do CASA at some point, probably after prelims.
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Hi Sankd - did you a get a chance to meet the potential advisor at option 2?
I did! Last week. They were very nice and extremely knowledgeable.
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German, Arabic, Gujarati. French (reading)
Of course, Arabic at this point really should be MSA. Going to Lebanon in 5 days to pick up some dialect.