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MrLister_The_Sister_Fister

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  1. The offer I received didn't explicitly mention health insurance, so I'm wondering if I could negotiate for that. I'm also thinking of trying to go for a full or partial fee waiver. If the offer letter doesn't explicitly mention health insurance, should I assume I'm not getting it?

  2. They also say from 2007-2013, they placed ~75% of their grad students in TT positions, ~10% in post docs, and ~8.5% in the government, leaving only like what, 7% of students without a job? That's pretty good, I'd say. Also, they've placed in some good departments too.

     

    Bottom line: Get into a top-10 department if you want a good job after you graduate.

  3. I think—in fact, I know—that people from those five schools can still manage not to get jobs.

    It's very, very difficult to tease out the effects of prestige. The most prestigious programs tend to place students well, but they also get top students to begin with. Which matters most for placement? No one really knows… and any individual's answer probably tells you more about them than it does about the reality of the situation.

    Now that I've said "nobody knows," my own sense, for what it's worth, is that fit and quality of advisor are paramount. Someone at Harvard who isn't well advised will not do well. Someone from (pick a top 20 or 30 or… program) who clicks well with an advisor, gets great feedback, and realizes his or her full potential will do very well.

    I can't help but feel this is somewhat of a wishy-washy, cop-out answer (not that I blame you, your name is attached to the account and it might seem bad to be on the record as giving a definitive answer either way). I've seen it said (on PSR and here), that it's not even worth it to go to a sub top 25-30 program. Some might even say it's not worth it to go to a sub top 10 program. Rumors also abound that search commitees at highly ranked programs will throw out applications without looking at them if the degree isn't from a top 25-30 program. I'd be curious to know if you've ever seen this happen yourself.

    Regardless, while a good advisor is a huge factor, faculty at lower ranked programs (probably) aren't as well connected as faculty at higher ranked ones, so they can't market their students nearly as well. Sure, a rreally good student at a lower ranked program might score a pub in a top 3 journal, which might save his/her application from getting immediately discarded at top schools, but a CHYMPS grad would get the same treatment without such a high ranking pub. Or so I hear, at least.

    So, in your opinion, is it really worth it to go to a sub top 30 program, even if you fit in well and have a good advisor? Or will lack of prestige lock you out of TT jobs at highly ranked programs (assuming you have a CV comparable to a CHYMPS grad's)?

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