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I don't want to be a stickler, but I have worked in the health regulatory process before and you're a little off in this analysis. Social work is a regulated health profession in Alberta, as well as Ontario. This means that you must be a member of the college of social workers of your province to use the title. In both Alberta and Ontario you may enter the college as a social worker with a BSW or an MSW. You would refer to yourself as "John Doe, BSW RSW" or "Jane Doe, MSW RSW" The reason MSW is entry to practice for many places in Ontario, other than a general lack of jobs, is that Psychotherapy is a protected act in Ontario, which means you need specific training to do it. In Ontario you also need an MSW. In Alberta, I don't believe this is the case. (although I'm not 100% sure regarding psychotherapy...it might not be a protected act there.) Generally their entry to practice degrees are one lower than other provinces. Fun Fact: Alberta is one of two provinces/states in north america that only requires a Masters of Psychology to be considered a Psychologist. ETA: Other professions can perform psychotherapy as well, but social workers require an MSW

Yeah, as i said, there are obviously elements of everything in every MSW program. Conversely, I am sure that Ryerson can prepare students for a career in clinical practice.

I think the U of T reputation is not necessarily "conservative" but "clinical" and research-focused. Hence their focus on applicants' stats marks as well as their close relationship with hospitals. Other Toronto schools seem to have settled more into the social justice, anti-oppressive community organization niches. Which isn't to say that all schools don't have these elements to some degree, but they do tend to self-fulfill their reputations with clinical-minded, academic MSW students preferring to apply to u of t and AOP-focused grassroots activist types applying to, say, Ryerson.

Man, now I wish I would have applied to any school that got information out faster than York does. So much excitement!

Well, it could be worse.... http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-carnegie-mellon-university-wrongly-tells-800-applicants-they-got-in-2015-2

I have. I think it depends on what you mean by GTA and what your experience and desired area of work is. Short answer: it has been unsuccessful for me so far. There are so many people here, even Toronto CAS requires an MSW. Because they can, I think. Also anyone can ask for a BSW and get hundreds of applicants with an MSW anyway. If your experience was great, it would help, but honestly I think that you'd need experience with diverse populations that perhaps doesn't happen in rural Alberta. Your mileage may vary, and it is much easier to find a job in Ontario with a BSW the further out of Toronto you are, but my small group of acquaintances with BSWs don't have jobs in social work at this time.

They're from the York site. I guess that means that over 500 of the 750 applicants were applying to the 2 year, so that's good news for advanced standing applicants I guess? I was just pointing out that their info on the website doesn't break down applicants in terms of which program they applied for. Not that there's anything we can do to change the future by talking about it, but everyone seems so anxious! I know I can't focus well right now, waiting.

Just wanted to relax some people applying to York - technically they had 750 applicants for 80 spaces total last year. They had 20 spaces for 2 year, 40 for advanced standing and 20 for PT advanced standing, with 750 applicants total. They don't actually break down the applications, so maybe that sounds better than 750 for 20?