Jackson8918
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1 hour ago, soapyhope said:
Hi Jackson8918! Thanks for the info and also congrats on your upcoming graduation!! I was wondering if you knew anyone in your cohort that got in on the waitlist (i’m not sure what stream you are but also if anyone else on the other streams did?). just for some hope to the three of us waiting on here!!
I think we had 2 waitlisted people who joined us during the 2nd week of class. We were in the intermediate/senior stream. They do enrollment all the way until the last second, its kinda just how OISE is...
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50 minutes ago, bisclav said:
On a separate note, do you mind telling me when the earliest point one can gain additional qualifications is? Do we have to wait until after we graduate OISE, or can we do it alongside our mandatory courses?
I'm pretty sure for most AQ providers you must have your OCT registered first as a mandatory requirement, which is annoying since OCT registration takes anywhere from 3-6 months after graduation. Requiring your OCT is the standard procedure for most universities, but there are exceptions. You'll have to do some research on your own. I tried registering for Senior Math and Senior Physics AQs in my first year, but was denied by OISE.
For some, doing an AQ at your graduating university in the summer of your graduating year is permissible. Right now, OISE is offering us 2019 grads anywhere from $100-200 discounts for summer AQs. Other universities like Queens require a letter from the dean of your graduating Teacher ed program, recommending your enrollment in an AQ without an OCT.
Be warned, AQs are substantially more workload heavy that typical teachers college courses. Online courses require ~20 hours of coursework each week, for a total of 6 weeks. -
On 4/6/2019 at 4:52 PM, bisclav said:
Good luck to all those waiting for an offer or on the waitlist - a lot of people don't accept their offers and I know more than few this year who aren't in light of the new future of teaching in Ontario so keep your heads up.
Hi @bisclav, I'm currently a graduating MT student this year.
From my exp, school boards are still hiring for supply teachers (esp. catholic boards). It's only permanent teacher contracts that are affected by the Ford education cuts. Six people in my cohort that got interviews for the TDSB supply list, scheduled for this Thursday. In past years, its typically between 0 and 1 people getting an interview with the TDSB.
So for those of you who do get an offer, don't reject it simply because of Doug Ford. Supply teaching pays $270/day anyways, and there is plenty of workdays to go around. -
Current year 2 MT student here. Planning to graduate next April, and applying to school boards in the January stream.
Been shadowing the forums for quite a while, and made many posts on last years application threads. I’m always happy to answer any questions about the program and provide application tips.
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6 hours ago, JA17 said:
Thank you for the info! If you are going to miss a class, do you just email the prof in advance? Or just not show up.
Would these weekly submissions be due in person or online?
I have no idea, I may be a tardy student, but I do not really inquire much about absence policies.
These are just details I have observed from my peers, so I don't not have 1st hand info on his. -
16 hours ago, JA17 said:
I have a question about actual courses... what happens if you miss a class/how often can you get away with missing class?
During Fundamentals with Philip Marsh I have another commitment 1-2 times during the first semester. I can drop the other commitment easily but just want to see if its possible first
1-2 absences are fine. The instructor may or may not require you to do some make-up stuff online, but that’s up to the them. They are very lax about attendance, as long as it’s not a presentation date.
I believe, from speaking with others, that Philip Marsh requires weekly and timely submissions that ask you to reflect on the readings each week (approx 2-3 articles). So the workload should be fine.
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BTW. Practicum is fine. Honestly, its by far the best part of the program. It's everything else that is wrong.
There were a few that dropped out because of it, but out of all those who came back from 1st practicum, the reception was overwhelmingly positive. -
2 hours ago, ExcitedtojoinOISE said:
I'm going to be joining the program in September and I'm really looking forward to it (as you can tell by my display name lol). Anyways, I keep hearing about students' discontent for the program but I was just wondering if you could elaborate on what the students' complaints are about. Did they not like the lecturers or their practicum experience? Or was it just that they feel they chose the wrong program and should have been in a B.Ed or M.Ed instead?
I'm really looking forward to doing this professional program because I'd like to gain both theoretical and hands-on skills to become a great educator & teacher. :D. If there's any other advice you have for incoming students, that'd be awesome. Thanks!
To those that are waiting, I'm so sorry that the admin took their sweet time with this. I hope you hear good news soon!
There are many issues I've seen so far from 1st year.
- The large majority of the curriculum emphasizes political discussions (left-wing typically), social justice, and anti-discrimination policies. Although it is important to have an understanding of these elements to become a teacher, not everyone has the interest to pursue these particular topics (esp. math/science teachers).
- While most lecturers are great (or even the best of their field I'd say!), there are a few that are absolutely awful. One such lecturer was from the Indigenous experiences course we had, which received overwhelmingly negative course evaluations from all the students. The course content was fine, but the lecturer's presentation and communication skills was not of proficient quality, and far from professional.
- Be VERY VERY careful with your opinions. The lecturers are nice and understanding, however, your colleagues may be a little bit judgmental and take things personally. This is CRUCIAL, since this is a cohort-based program. You'll see these people for 16 full months for all your courses (minus 2 electives).
- There is a LARGE amount of readings and written reflections you have to do each week. An absolute time sink especially for people who still work part-time.
- The actual research component is rather weak. The MTRP is no "thesis" in any way shape or form. You are limited to writing review summaries of other published work and regurgitating them into one summative argument. You have the option of expanding your MTRP into an advanced QRP paper, but you do not gain any extra course credit.
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Just a question for all of you, was the OISE program the only teacher ed program you applied for?
Not to demean OISE or anything, but the overall reception of the MT program as a whole has been rather terrible throughout.
Maybe its just us students complaining, but almost everyone dislikes the way things are run by the admins here.
It's not really known to give benefits over BEd, yet the MT tuition is double the amount (12k, vs 6-7k)
There are is no A4, no additional certifications, or increased employment rates to show for the additional costs.
Its just a "masters" in name, as UofT doesn't accept their own MT students to go into any of their PhD programs.
The only reason why I went here was because I've done my undergrad here at UofT, and I know the campus area. -
4 hours ago, tennnnnn said:
oh i meant when you were applying did you have a 5 credit courseload for your 4th year
I actually overloaded with 6.0 load in my final year at UofT.
I don't think it really mattered in the end though, as long as you are taking reasonable amount of credits (>4.0), it should be ok.
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Then again, it might be different for PJ and JI people?
There's a facebook group called "Master of Teaching (OISE/UT)"
You can ask people there for more info, its good to get some info from other people besides me. -
12 hours ago, hopeoise said:
Classes will be scheduled five days per week. Full participation (and attendance) is expected in all activities associated with the Master of Teaching program (classes, practicum, conferences, special events, etc.) and is required for success.
I am pretty certain this is not true, unless they are overhauling the entire schedule for MT this upcoming year.
Here's a sample of my timetable from October, as provided by OISE's pepper platform.
Note that red = events and activities which are optional.
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11 hours ago, Saf88 said:
Hello Jackson8918,
I looked at the page you linked above for p/j and from what I understand 385 ppl were offered admission of which 175 accepted and 173 actually attended. Is that correct?
Does that mean we have a chance? Can anyone offer any useful information?
Yup, you are right.
I believe we had new people coming into our cohort 2 weeks into the program. Both of them were previously waitlisted.
I believe they stop accepting wait lists after that though, since missed evaluations and assignments will accrue.
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8 hours ago, hopeoise said:
Classes are only 3 days a week? Are there any other school commitments on the Tuesday and Friday (other than studying etc)?
Study???
*Insert meme here*
In all seriousness, there isn't anything to study for. We teachers make our students do all that. There are lots of readings, essays and presentations, but there aren't any exams or tests to study for. With Tuesdays and Fridays off, most people find part-time work, do internships, or voluntarily extend their practicums across these weekdays.
8 hours ago, hopeoise said:Also, since I got accepted in late June, they haven't processed my tuition deposit yet. So far, I am not enrolled in any courses, and from what I understand, they automatically register first year students into all courses, can someone please confirm this? If not, how do I register for classes?
That is correct, you don't need to register for classes as first year. Virtually all classes are chosen for you, with the exception of 2 electives in year 2.
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2 hours ago, tennnnnn said:
hello...to those who got accepted...did you guys have a full 5 credit courseload? thanks in advance!
Yes. It’s can even go up to 6 credits if you apply for catholic school board accreditation.
Classes go M, W, Thr. From 9am-noon, and then 1-4pm. Reglious education (6th optional class) go from 5-8pm Monday’s.
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2 hours ago, hopeoise said:
What is UTAPs? Can you explain a bit more about the internships or teaching jobs? I mean, if we are in school full time, what kind of teaching jobs can we apply for other than tutoring? Thanks a lot for your help btw!
RE: UTAPs. Its free money from OSAP, everyone who applied for it gets approx $2500 credit.
RE: Internships. See some old OISE internships here.
https://supo-app.oise.utoronto.ca/supo/internship/postings/ -
15 hours ago, BrownChocolate said:
Who should I talk with if I want to do a 100-page thesis for example?
That's something you'll have to figure out on your own.
Just like a regular masters/doctoral thesis, you approach and contact a faculty supervisor on your own.
They advise you on the next steps, providing general feedback etc... -
6 hours ago, BrownChocolate said:
So can I do a 100-page qualifying research paper while in MT separate from the program?
Sure, but that’s going to be a lot on your plate. Keep in mind you have five courses per term along with practicum placements.
If you are seriously going into teaching, you should be signing up for internships and part time teaching jobs to make yourself competitive. PhD and research exp are not on the top of the priority list for hiring boards.
There are very few people I know in the program who are not tutoring/teaching. You will not be very competitive in the hiring process without job experience.
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23 hours ago, hopeoise said:
So this entire (2 yrs) program costs ~25000 ?
More or less. Though 99% of the students who applied for OSAP get $2500 rebate from UTAPs.
21 hours ago, BrownChocolate said:Can one pursue a PhD after finishing OISE's Masters of Teaching 2018 program?
Yes, but there is a catch. PhD programs require that you have written a masters thesis or dissertation.
While the MT program has a research project, it alone does not suffice.
To apply for PhD or EdD, you must write a 100-page qualifying research paper.
Either this, or do a research-based masters degree (MA or MSc). -
19 hours ago, Frenchie92 said:
Hello! I recently got accepted into the MT program J/I for French
Do you mind providing the syllabus link for the other courses you took in Year 1? I graduated from u of t 3 years ago, so I’m trying my best to prep (as much as I can) for this program. Thanks so so much!
The J/I candidates have a separate curriculum from I/S, as do P/J teachers.
I don't really have any course syllabi from the P/J and J/I cohorts, only I/S.For example, the I/S curriculum has emphasis on mental health and adolescent/teenage development, whereas P/J focuses on pedagogical skills for basic literacy and numeracy development.
I know that some courses are shared across between all concentrations (ie. Fundamentals course), but I don't know which others are.
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11 hours ago, Jules24 said:
Hey, does anyone know how many spots approximately the MT program has? Either from past years or for this year?
Check out this page
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5 hours ago, HopingToTeach1231 said:
Did you do the course that is required to practice in Catholic schools? - I believe it runs in the evenings, but I'm not sure. I know that I'll have to register for it on my own.
Nope, but my cohort buddies did. That class ran on Wednesday 5-8pm.
If you are serious about applying to catholic boards, make sure you can get a suitable reference from a resident priest to confirm your hours of attending church.5 hours ago, HopingToTeach1231 said:As well, is the summer session similar in terms of the days/times for courses?
Summer sessions (right now) are only on Tuesdays and Thursdays for regular cohorts, same times.
The UTS cohort has slightly adjusted times since they have camp counseling duties for the summer (paid @$500/week). -
And in case if you wanted to see some assignments here are some sample syllabus.
Here's one for Fundamentals of Teaching (an intro course to basics of teaching).
I've also got a syllabus for Biology as well from one of my cohort buddies.
Keep in mind that you may have different instructors, who each have different syllabus.
This is just to give you a taste of what's in store.
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12 hours ago, HopingToTeach1231 said:
Hi Jackson! Thank you so much for providing us with this information!
I got accepted into I/S with my first teachable as biology! I was wondering how your course schedule looked like in your first year? I know that OISE picks your courses and we won't be able to choose days/times. It may be different this year, but I just wanted to get an idea if I should expect to be there 5 days a week and the typical times that these classes are being held.
Thank you in advance!
Congratulations on getting in! I might even see you at OISE next year in biology as a Year 2 student!
This past year, all I/S MT students had classes Monday, Wednesday and Thursday.
Each class is 3 hours long, and go on from 9am-noon, and then 1-4pm.
Assuming nothing changes, you should expect this to be your upcoming schedule come September 2018.
Lemme know if you have any other questions.
Master of Teaching OISE 2019
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Posted · Edited by Jackson8918
One thing that may affect your chances is your teachable/concentration.
P/J is wildly more applied for than J/I or I/S, so you will face lots of competition there.
This goes for teachable subjects as well. We had well over 60-70 I/S English and History students at OISE in my class of 2019.
This is in stark contrast to I/S math class, which only had 8 teacher candidates this year (J/I math is more popular). I/S physics had even less, at 6.
Interestingly enough, the school boards are desperately interviewing for I/S math/physics teachers right now.
I don't think I know any IS math/physics teachers who did not receive a board interview last month.