Bluebluepie
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5 minutes ago, SocialKonstruct said:
Don't quote me with this but I heard that even once or twice there was a fist fight between two artists and it didn't go very well. I gather I have learned not to be emotionally involved with my art practice at all. If folks dislike my art, I just shrug it off and move on and listen to good advice. I am not a crowd pleaser.
Oh wow, I would have never imagined these physical exchanges would happen... Seems like intense emotions are at play during these crits...good and bad.
Yea, it's healthy to soak in the good advice. And forget comments that stem from negatively charged personal emotions.
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7 minutes ago, SocialKonstruct said:
I wouldn't be able to do a comparison but I can try to ask my Columbia MFA friends (who graduated from there) and that our gallery represents about Columbia's paintings... Also I know is that articles have alluded to the Pit Crit being a pretty intellectual and emotionally fraught type of situation. (https://i-d.vice.com/en_us/article/bj3jvz/this-is-what-its-like-to-get-a-yale-school-of-art-mfa-degree and https://artillerymag.com/24755/
"At the Yale School of Painting and Printmaking there is a pit. They called it a pit. There were discussions in the pit and they were twice a year, about you, and mandatory.
Some people cried in the pit. They wept because the artist-professors said they held low opinions of the art they had made and—not infrequently, and not only by implication, of them as people—of their intelligence, bravery, craft and work ethic. Since the entire school was watching, along with dozens of students from sculpture and photo, this was very public weeping.
Most did not weep. One student drank heavily the whole time, one told me to play “Get Off Of My Cloud” if it got bad, one painted the most famous teacher being raped by animals and showed it to him, one never had a good crit and is magnificently well off.
It was considered important to have allies when you went into the pit. You would invite your friends—but they weren’t allowed to talk. The professors would talk, and you would talk and you were always outnumbered.It is no accident that of the three art schools at Yale it was the School of Painting—the most primitive—that enacted the end-of-term critique in its most theatrical, least merciful, and purest form. There are no skills regularly taught in modern art schools—the Pit Crit and its cousins in schools all over the world are the primary ritual of the modern academy: place the artist in the center of a concentric circle whose outermost ring is whatever they felt like making and whose middle ring is their elders, and tell them that they suck."
--Zak Smith
That would be very helpful information.
Just saw this from a 06' article: "So are there really tears? "It does happen on occasion," said Gareth James, chairman of the visual arts program at Columbia University in New York, "but we try to make sure we are not just handing down judgments. These conversations are really about trying to get inside the internal logic of a work." -Jori Finkel (Tales From the Crit: For Art Students, May Is the Cruelest Month)
Thank you for the links. I will definitely be reading through them!
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Does anyone know how Columbia's Visual Arts MFA group crit compares to Yale's Painting/Printmaking MFA pit crit...in terms of intensity?
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8 minutes ago, too sober to draw said:
this is how they wrote: "The faculty committee reviewed their interview with you favorably, though they have placed you on the wait list for Fall 2021."
and also wow I just found out this forum today!!! How come i never discovered this place haha.
Thank you so much for sharing! It's useful to know. ? Also it's remarkable that you were offered an interview. Crossing fingers for you!
Haha same here. A lot of helpful info!
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43 minutes ago, too sober to draw said:
Yale waitlisted here : (
and same, the letter makes me wondering if it's not for the deferrals I might just get in? (also when I just checked this morning 'maybe you would have been a first round acceptance in a normal year' disappeared? Do they edit the letter after they sent out? )
Also I somehow thought all the people got interview but did not get in the first round will be waitlisted but seems there're people got rejected?
Can't imagine what it must feel like. ?
oh I also somehow assumed people who weren't able to make it into the final cohort are automatically placed on the waitlist if they interviewed...
Does it just say in the letter that you "have been placed on the waitlist"?
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3 minutes ago, Hphphphp said:
Thank you ?
interview with UCLA or Yale?
I'm interested in hearing about Yale's interview. ? Thank you!
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27 minutes ago, xzg said:
waitlisted at Yale (painting and printmaking), this was my second time interviewing, first time was rejected after the interview. I think reapply would get the applicant a better chance, but it doesn't guarantee much, also thinking about the time, money and energy invested. Unfortunately, It also seems difficult to get off waitlist this year, as only 12 students (as oppose to 21) will be accepted. Best of luck to everyone waiting.
? I'm sorry to hear that. How many are usually waitlisted for the program? Hopefully you can join the cohort. ?
Was this your second time applying to Yale (painting/printmaking)?
If you don't mind sharing...would like to know what you felt was different in your second interview compared to your first?
Crossing fingers.
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1 hour ago, Hphphphp said:
Waitlisted at Yale ?
I did get into UCLA tho. but idk if I am gonna be able to go because I am having issues with my residency
ahhh...
Congrats on UCLA! ?
Wishing you luck on Yale. ? If you are comfortable with sharing your thoughts on your interview I would love to know.
Just curious, to hear what it's like...
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Aha, thank you for bringing this to my attention.