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Most decisions are out by late march, so I don't think it will change much this year. Last year many decisions came out during AWP as well.
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a google sheet called 'MFA Draft Notification Data', then on the 2024 tab someone said it in 'other notes'. I think it does since it's such a subjective process. Urban legends is someone applied to many schools just to get denied by everyone... except Brown. so yeah, worth doing the 'many' approach i think, as long as they're a good fit for you.
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most funded programs are in the single digits for prose, usually under 5. The main exception being iowa. Poets and writers is a good resource for accurate numbers, via their 'MFA Programs Database' page.
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based off last year draft reponses: 200 fiction applications, 4 accepted (10 shortlisted total) last year a lot of programs said they received many more applications than normal. we don't know yet if that is a new normal or an outlier.
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Yeah, also possible accepted peeps aren't on draft etc.
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good list! I'll add Rutgers-Camden (January 24). Also note Western Kentucky isn't fully funded (I was admitted last year with no funding and declined; I tried to find out how their funding works but never got a response. I'm not sure if it's 5 funded per cohort or 5 total in the whole program, nor if it's competitive each year). edit: also it's been so quiet!
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I'm glad the letter of recommendation system acts as a kind of limiter, otherwise i'd be right there with yall impulse applying to even more! Most of us are already applying to more programs than what's considered normal, but maybe what's considered 'normal' is rising each round since each round has more applicants.
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yeah the waiting process is tough, but it's also the only thing that has motivated me to unsubscribe my email from everything that's not important to my life any longer. my poor heart can't take an email notification just for it to be junk!
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I agree with everything Mystic_Sunshine said. Most deadlines have just about passed, nearly all are in mid to late december. A small handful are still open, but that window is closing very quickly. I'd recommend delaying your apps until next round if possible; that's what i did when i was in a similar situation as yours three rounds ago. Applications will open up around september 2025, for fall 2026 admission.
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no mentions on draft yet about that. I submited to uc irvine but didn't include a postcard.
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from their website: Please allow up to four weeks for us to acknowledge your manuscript via your online admissions profile; if your manuscript has not been acknowledged by January 20th, please call the office to make sure it’s been received; please note: we cannot check on manuscript status before January 20 --- i'd call them around jan 20th if it still says something other than received in your online profile.
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1) yes it is useless, mostly, to check portals without prompting from an email. I think there's a .00001% chance of looking at a portal and seeing 'acceptance' before getting an email or a call. 2) i will still be obsessively checking the portals anyway, because i have no self control.
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approvals come in batches. also make sure you answered the questions when sending the request; if you left that blank then you will not get approved.
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The thread from last year didn't even break 1 page before mid jan, but this thread is already at 10 pages 😅 The MFA draft group right now is at 1.1k members; last years group currently has 1.7k members (but how many members show up between now and results? I'm guessing a lot, so it will probably hit that 1.7k number again).
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It looks like a great program but something to keep in mind is that it's a 2/2 teaching load, i believe for all 4 years. Also, the stipend doesn't cover CoL for the area, so even though it's fully funded, how are you going to pay for rent for 4 years when teaching 2/2 and also doing your own mfa work? lets look at numbers for that stipend: 16,000 total stipend minus 5 ish percent for taxes (it's a tiny bit less if you have no other income) = 15,276 minus 1,660 in fees each semester, 3320 in fees a year (that's correct, they do not cover fees, only tuition) so 15,276 - 3320 = 11,956 minus health insurance that is at least 680 a year (30 percent of 2,239.00 - the yearly cost for ark students). so 11956 - 680 = 11,276 so that 16,000 turns into an nonnegotiable 11,276 a year pretty quick. aka 939 a month - but this also includes summer months, which you'd be free to work outside of the school. As grad student's we're agreeing to live lean. But can you make 939 cover rent / food / bills? seems impossible when the rent there has quadrupled over the last decade. I just don't think the stipend has kept up with inflation and rent enough, especially for 2/2 @ 4 years. anyway, procrastinating is fun. back i go to work. i could be wrong about all this btw!
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yay usps found my iowa packet and got it into their hands If last year was also an indicator, we have about a month until mid january when it becomes time to refresh the notifications pages every minute of every day out of anxiety and dread and enjoyment of watching others and ourselves live the dream. Enjoy the next month of relative calm! something i did last year and feel good about not doing this year: once i hit submit, i don't reread anything. knowing what typos or mistakes i made in an sop won't help a thing, and would only cause more anxiety.
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i've read cases of this happening and people still getting in! The writing sample is what matters most; a program isn't going to deny you for an arts degree because of a clerical error.
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I use this https://www.thegradcafe.com/survey/?q=&sort=newest&institution=&program=°ree=MFA&season= - just searching for mfa, so some incorrect results are included. you can play around with serch terms to find what works best for you. Also there's a facebook group called 'draft mfa '25' and there's 'draft mfa 24' etc, going backward, and they maintain a crowd sourced spreadsheet of responses that has quite a bit more data. Based off last year, the programs did stay mostly aligned with their previous time frames.
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Yes, I think they will accept that as a post mark. Also if you've already uploaded the script to the portal during the online application, then you have backup proof of beating the deadline. My iowa submission is also late, I'm guessing due to the storms. USPS even took off my ETA on my tracking completely!
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Not sure exactly what an impact statement is, but here's my general SOP thoughts (if they're the same thing) that i've also gained from reading a billion 'heres how to write sop' articles: aim for two pages, double spaced, tops. so about 500-600 words total. Less focused about how you came into writing and more about your current and future writing. Autobiography is not your friend, but talking about fiction in an interesting way is -- then you can try to fit yourself into that conversation some way. You're trying to impress someone who is reading 300 sops, so lets be honest, they're gonna be skimming, especially if it's a variation of autobiography they've heard 300 times that month ("I've always loved writing since..."). keep it short, fast, and about what you're offering the program just as much as what you want to take from it.
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I wanted to dunk on places like Iowa and Irvine for being so old school and requiring us to physically mail in our samples. LIke, get with the times! But you know what? There is something very satisfying about dropping 40 pages of prose into the mail.
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well, i've already submitted! I went the risky route and put into the autobiography part a lot more of the quirky/human aspects of my personality that i otherwise cut from the SOP I submitted to other places. I wouldn't call it padding though, as it probably does give them a better picture of who I am as a writer/person.
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I had the same hesitation; from the research i've done, it appears Notre Dame is 'as catholic as you want it to be'. You can attend the university as an atheist and never attend mass, etc. I am applying, despite not being religious, which shows through my work.
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UC Irvine's app is really annoying. "give us an sop, an autobiography, and a Personal History Statement." like what???? just let me send in my 500 word sop that's perfect please i'm begging you. now i have to cut it up into 3 different documents and pad them with words that aren't needed and then trust you're gonna read it all??
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i looked around but didn't find anything comparable to the US system; ie, offering a fully funded, terminal degree in writing. I think there's one in canada, but nothing in the EU (for American citizens).