Jane Wyman

They called you tonight??

If they said to email a specific admissions specialist, I'd try them!

I'd look at cost of living for both places. Not sure if that's a consideration, but I suspect OSU will be pricier. Also, Oregon and Idaho are quite different politically, although of course a college town is a college town. You could check out the faculty and see who you vibe with more?

Re: waitlists, I did some astrology forecasting, tarot readings, and I Ching readings to (fruitlessly and unscientifically) try to figure out what would happen, and they were all along the lines of, "Be patient, things are moving around behind the scenes, but not in the manner in which you might think, so be prepared for change but also be not prepared for it, patience is a virtue, blah blee." This is true of the waitlist process as well as millions of other processes, including photosynthesis. I'm trying to focus on writing and my daily grind, but I'm just not that virtuous.

Well, at least it's a great feeling!

The first rejection was from the coordinator, but this new one was from the portal itself.

Anybody else get a *second* rejection from Syracuse tonight?

My turn for copium ... do we think that Hunter and WashU are utterly done waitlisting, accepting, etc?

Hooray!!!

Manifesting ... Nice UVA news!

Manifesting 3 p.m. EST results.

Generic grad school. I guess they want all of their applicants to feel bad, lol.

"If somehow, miraculously, you turn into less of a garbage raccoon, please do not hesitate to throw $135 at us again. Though of course, it shall be in vain."

Whew, this line from the Davis rejection I just got: "If in the future you believe that your accomplishments may be competitive, please do not hesitate to reapply." I know this is their form rejection, but wow.

Ah hell.

Does NWP usually notify waitlists first, or are there no fiction acceptances out yet?

What's coming soon? Seems like WashU and Hunter are nigh, maybe NWP and U of O? Either way, manifesting GOOD NEWS FOR ALL.

The 1995 Pride and Prejudice mini-series? Righteous Gemstones?

Hell yeah!

I think the majority of writers are not like that, but there's always one or two in every workshop ... and who knows if they were charged with reading your application? ETA: I agree with spewilicious.

I haven't read applications before, but at my current program, first-round readers are often grad students, and their taste is not necessarily perfect. Especially these days, readers have trouble detecting dramatic irony, and I've noticed some younger readers are needlessly prudish at times ("this story made me feel bad, therefore it is bad"). So, your manuscript could fail to make it through the first round for reasons that have nothing to do with quality.

Thank you so much! That warms my heart.

UMass Amherst, UMich, Vandy, Michener, Syracuse, Johns Hopkins, and Cornell all gave me form rejections, and I thought the rest of app season would go like this. So, if you've gotten nos across the board so far, don't give up hope.

I'm an Iowa waitlist! Just got the email, am losing my shit.

Wait, WashU is emailing people to let them know that the MFA program is definitely on hold for now?