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In columns N, O, and P of the spreadsheet, the number of applicants who received follow-up emails, the total number of applicants, and the percentage of applicants who received email updates are shown, respectively. So far... Overall, 12 out of 20 applicants received follow-up emails, which is 60% of the applicants. For scholarship applicants, 4 out of 6 applicants received follow-up emails, which is 66.7 % of the applicants. For fellowship applicants, 8 out of 14 applicants received follow-up emails, which is 57.1% of the applicants.

Welcome! Will you please email your information (for the spreadsheet) to boren2011.2012@gmail.com? Thanks!

If you're new to the forum, please see this spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&hl=en&key=t3qOsagddRpBd48y-yJ-aiA&authkey=CPu-4N4N#gid=0 And then email your information to boren2011.2012@gmail.com That way we can make an awesome spreadsheet! Thanks!

Sometimes, I wonder if I'm going to be penalized since I already work part-time (I'm still a student) in a position that has quite a bit of interaction with AF, DoD, and NGA, among others. I guess we'll see.

I emailed them about two weeks ago, and they said results would be both emailed and mailed. I second the running recommendation! Just ran a 5k last weekend--it made me feel a lot better!

I didn't list a specific job either, so don't feel alone. :-] I tried to tie in the places I want to work for and the things I want to do with the job I currently have, which is probably somewhat similar to what I'll be doing in the future.

Don't give up hope! Yesterday, I found out that I didn't win Fulbright, which is a downer. But, really, there are so many other opportunities out there. There is just no sense in getting yourself down because you didn't win one thing. Especially when you have a great shot at winning so many other things! One thing I always like to think of is this: if you've made it to the finals for anything (e.g., interview, scholarship), you have what it takes to win. At that point in time, I think it takes just a little luck. Maybe one of the things in your application sticks out to a particular reviewer (e.g., you share a similar passion, your situation seems familiar to one they have gone through), and that will end up helping you out.

My notification just came in (for Australia) and I was rejected. I uploaded my information to the spreadsheet. Other candidates for Australia should be hearing shortly (postmark date was 4/20/2011).

I agree. Even if you don't get it (it sounds like you have a great chance though), there are other things you can do to help yourself get into graduate school. Generally, it seems that a lot of places like applicants who have done some sort of undergraduate research. So, that might be something worth looking into.

Thanks! The link to the spreadsheet is: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&hl=en&key=t3qOsagddRpBd48y-yJ-aiA&authkey=CPu-4N4N#gid=0

Yes, that's true. And, even with the fellowships, depending on what language you applied for, your chances could be different. Also, the number of applicants for each language could change by quite a bit each year, so there really is no way to know. One thing I suppose you could assume is that they send the right number of people for each language or country to the nationals, that way they have enough people to choose from (e.g., the 2.4 to 3.6 I listed before). For example, if they sent hardly anybody to the nationals for a particular language, they might end up having to choose all of those people to meet their goals for a particular language. So, who knows?

Sorry about the formatting, Grad Cafe keeps deleting my spaces.

Last year, there were 519 applicants for fellowships and 99 recipients, so a little under 20% of the total applicants won. This year, I think there were around 600 applicants for around the same number of grants. So, let's just assume there were 600 applicants for 100 grants. I don't know how many people get forwarded to the national panel, but here are a few different scenarios: % of Applicants Forwarded to National Panel ::::::::::::::::::::: % of Forwarded Applicants that Win 16.67 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 100 20 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 83.33 30 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 55.56 40 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 41.67 50 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 33.33 60 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 27.78 70 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 23.81 80 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 20.83 90 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 18.51 100 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 16.67 So, take your pick of what percentage of the applicants get forwarded to the national panel and from there you can figure out what percentage of those applicants win. My guess would be that the number of applicants forwarded to the national panel ranges from 40% to 60% of the total number of applicants, that way the national panel has enough people to choose from (there would be 2.4 to 3.6 finalists per available grant). If this is the case, they could choose roughly 1 awardee out of every 3 finalists.

One thing you can do to get an idea of when the letter should be arriving is plug in your information here: http://postcalc.usps.gov/ Although you cannot adjust the calendar to a past date, you can change the mailing date to a certain day of the week to figure out when the letter is 'supposed' to arrive. Once you get to the page that displays all the shipping options, click on the First-Class Mail option and it should display what the 'expected' delivery date is. Hope this helps!

Thanks for the kind words. I don't think anyone should count themselves out until they hear back. Are you a fellowship or scholarship applicant?

Thanks! I hope we all get it too! I think the spreadsheet will prove especially helpful in answering the question regarding follow-up emails once everyone finds out about their status. Right now, we have 10 people on the spreadsheet. Out of those 10 people, 8 were sent follow-up emails and 2 weren't. There were a little over 600 applicants this year, so hopefully we can get at least 100 people on the spreadsheet by the time this is all over with (that way we have a sufficient sample size). Thanks to Runner for posting the link to this forum on the Boren Awards Facebook page as that should bring more people to this forum (and the spreadsheet).

Also, it seems like it would not be in the best interest of the committee (with the number of applications there are) to notify each and every applicant that was forwarded on to the final round for additional information. Doing so amounts to having to do a lot of extra work. Either way, good luck to all!

Personally, I don't think this is the case. I also applied for Fulbright, and am currently in the finalist round for one of the most competitive countries (around 5% of the applicants make it to the final round). Fulbright never asked us to provide updated information. With that said, I think there are probably three ways to look at this follow-up email. 1) Not enough details were originally provided in your budget and/or timeline and you seemed like a great candidate, hence the need for updated information 2) Not enough details were originally provided in your budget and/or timeline and you didn't seem like a great candidate, so no need for updated information 2) Enough details were originally provided and you seemed like a great candidate, so no need for updated information Again, I'm not an authority on this issue, this is just my viewpoint.

Good idea. I'm adding this now. Everyone, please let me know the relevant information if you are on the spreadsheet.

Congratulations on your award! I'm assuming you are Todd on the spreadsheet?

I emailed Akeley a few weeks ago and he said results are typically sent out mid-April, so I was hoping they would show up sometime this week. I'm not sure if they've been sent though. Does somebody else want to call or email him?

Just wanted to repost the link to the spreadsheet for all our information: https://spreadsheets...=CPu-4N4N#gid=0 So, if you want information added to the spreadsheet, please email boren2011.2012@gmail.com. I would give everyone editing privileges, but random people come along and delete everything, so it is best to only have a few people with editing privileges.

Don't forget your laptops, so y'all can email your results in as they come. :-D

Just made a spreadsheet for all of our information: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&hl=en&key=t3qOsagddRpBd48y-yJ-aiA&authkey=CPu-4N4N#gid=0 So, if you want information added to the spreadsheet, please email boren2011.2012@gmail.com. I would give everyone editing privileges, but random people come along and delete everything, so it is best to only have a few people with editing privileges.

Fellowship here. From what I understand, the fellowship process is much less involved with the campus than the scholarship process. For example, scholarship people had to do interviews on campus, but fellowship people didn't. If it makes you feel any better, there are several people on the Fulbright forum who did not have interviews (with the country) that won. So, personally, I wouldn't read too much into the number of emails you've gotten (of course, that is just my opinion, so yeah).