objectivityofcontradiction

Plato

Great post. And obviously relevant. http://melissaridleyelmes.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/its-not-on-the-syllabus-cultivating-collegiality-as-a-graduate-student/

I'm headed to a Top-25 from a European MA.

I'm boring and am going to maintain some level of anonymity. But, I will say that I'll be in the Midwest studying Kant and German Idealism. So, if you know the scene, you can probably figure out the few places I might be. Take it easy everyone.

I'm boring and am going to maintain some level of anonymity. But, I will say that I'll be in the Midwest studying Kant and German Idealism. So, if you know the scene, you can probably figure out the few places I might be. Take it easy.

Democritus

Some one should e-mail Leiter and get it reported on his blog, if only for the snarky-ass comments he might have about the situation.

'inerrancy' is just a great effin' word, rolls right off the tongue.

Thanks all for your responses.

Regarding the 'holding onto offers' bit. I have no offers yet to hold onto, maybe I did not make that clear either. I have 3 wait-list 'offers' and, from what I have been told, a lot of times some of us on wait-lists won't hear anything until the 14th or 15th. And when we do, we will be expected to make on the spot decisions for the reasons discussed above and elsewhere: OTHERS ARE WAITING TOO. An old professor of mine told me a story about how back in the 90s when he was applying he got a call at noon on April 15th essentially telling him, 'you are in off the wait-list. Do you accept? We must know now, otherwise we will move right down the list.' This is the situation I am expecting to be in. That or silence and then... despair.

Not accepted yet. Wait-listed. That was made clear in the first post, and clearer in the second. It is all made rather more complicated just by the fact that their visit weekend is scheduled for the weekend before decision day. I have no acceptances yet. Just three wait-list spots, this is why it is a weird spot. Do I visit this weekend while still on the wait-list, or hope that they have several decline between now and the 15th, in which case I'll get an offer, accept, and visit after... maybe it is a rather case-specific problem to have, but I assumed some others like me (wait-listed, no offers, i.e. april 15 is the real judgment day) might be in a similar spot.

OK. I am going to chalk this up to my being a pretty poor internet scribbler, but you two have both grossly misread my question and misjudged my intent. I am not asking a school to extend a deadline. I am wait-listed. I was told, even though I am wait-listed, I am welcome to visit this weekend. My predicament is that the offer to visit was extended on a Monday, and the visit starts on Friday of the same week. Short notice. And, given that next Tuesday is the national deadline, and I have to hear back from this school either way by that day, I am just wondering whether or not I should go through with the visit (given the risks involved as a wait-listed visitor), get my hopes up, and be crushed next week. Or just hope to get the offer on April 15, in which case I'd ask, as AN ADMITTED STUDENT, to visit on my own time, or, I'd just see them in the fall when the semester begins FOR ADMITTED STUDENTS. I am sure what I did not make clear last post was that this particular school is my TOP CHOICE and so I'd definitely accept an offer. Clearer? ps Vineyard: if my visit wasn't funded my salary as a substitute teacher would not allow me to get out out for any visits. save the rich kid comments for some one who is actually rich.... thanks BRO.

A rather specific thread but if I am running into this issue I assume some others are as well. What is the protocol for visiting those schools that, if you are lucky enough, admit you right on or around April 15, and thus presumably after they have already hosted their department organized, 'official' visits? FWIW, I have had two schools tell me that I was more than welcome to attend their visit even though I was on the wait-list in both cases. In the first case, I declined to visit (still on the wait-list). But for school #2 I am thinking about visiting this weekend even though it would be on very short notice. In both cases I was told I'd get department support. I also assume they wouldn't extend the invite if I wasn't either at the top or very near to the top of the wait-list. I am leaning towards not visiting this weekend and just hoping that I will get an official offer by this time next week. So I return to my question from above: is it normal for a student admitted right on or around April 15 to schedule their own personal visit for some time after?

Do it.

word.

the fuck is Talbot's?

Thanks all.

In a bit of a pickle: I am applying to a couple of German summer schools in philosophy. One is in the middle of the summer, the other is in the middle of September. I am hoping to get off the wait-list at 1 of 3 schools before then. My question is: if I am admitted somewhere, would it be appropriate to ask right away about help funding such trips? On the one hand, I see how this could come off as a bit reaching, or even a bit arrogant: the kid who just entered our program is already asking us to give him money to attend conferences, when we really haven't seen what sort of graduate work he is capable of producing. On the other hand, I can see how this could put me in a nice light, as it would attest to the earnestness with which I have thrown myself into my research areas, and also could show that I intend to hit the ground running, etc. After all, once accepted, I am as much a member of my department as even the most senior graduate students, so in theory I should be in an equal position as any to be considered for funding. On the other hand, I am sure the matter of who gets additional funding sometimes comes down to seniority. Either way, I'll ask these questions myself when (if) I visit. Thoughts?

The area, yes. Spokane, not so much.

Of course, if these professors are people you got in touch with prior to the application season, then it might not be so bad to reengage with them. At one of the schools I was wait-listed at, I shot an e-mail off to one of the professors I am interested in working with, informing them that I was on the wait-list, and then asked a couple questions. Now, the e-mail that I received informing me that I was on the waitlist at this school explicitly stated that we could feel free to get in touch with any member of the faculty we liked. Whether such contact is taboo or not, it was in writing, I had already been in touch with this person, so I though fuck it, I'll e-mail them. The first line in this professor's response e-mail to me was that they were "very happy" to see me on the wait-list. Obviously they had remembered our correspondence in the fall. Furthermore, saying they were happy to see me waitlisted indicated to me that this person probably had a strong say in my making it through the cuts and getting on the waitlist in the first place, and told me that, if it comes down to a few people later on in the process (like, now-ish) it looks like this professor is willing to go to bat for me, and their words could be what get me in. Again, I have voiced this opinion countless times on this forum, and I'll do it again. IT IS FINE TO CONTACT PEOPLE AT THE DEPARTMENTS TO WHICH YOU APPLIED BEFORE YOU SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION AND AFTER HEARING FROM THEM ABOUT YOUR ADMISSIONS STATUS. Just don't do it during the presumed review process is all. Seriously. I do not understand how so many can worry about the impropriety of such behavior. We do not live in Victorian England, some of you need to let go of such rigid rules of etiquette.

Any tips? People often confuse this type of question as one asking for advice on how to wake up earlier. That is not what I am asking, so if your answer is 'go to bed earlier,' or 'have the coffee ready when you wake up,' etc., please don't respond. If I need to wake up, I can wake up just fine. What I struggle with is being productive during the hours of, say, 6-8 am. I'd like to change that. I'd like to begin producing more work, but I often find myself wasting a lot of afternoon time, and I can no longer work past 9-10 at night like I used to as an undergrad. I just find that whatever I write after about 9ish pm is usually junk. Following all this, it has become apparent to me that I need to start taking advantage of the early morning hours, but I am not very good at it. Advice?

Santayana

One thing I'll never understand about this process is how rejections trickle in. UCR sent out acceptances and wait-lists weeks ago now, clearly those of us who did not hear are rejected. How hard is it to click a computer screen and send out the rejection emails as a single group? What is with this, okay, let's reject A-G today, H-S tomorrow, and the rest the day after?

Thinking I'll shoot for a mid-August arrival wherever it is I end up.

dgswaim, has Wyoming offered to host (and fund) you for a visit? Had a friend at my MA institution (he was there for PhD.) who got his MA at U of Wyoming in early 2000s. He had nothing but awesome things to say about the program. I've heard it has a sneaky, under-the-radar reputation among some solid PhD. programs as being an excellent place to do MA work, and a place that really prepares their students well for doctoral work. I wish I had applied back when I was applying to MA programs. Anyways, just my two cents.