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ten-of-swords

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  1. Despite some recent um, awkward posts on this forum, I just want to say thank you to everyone who has been supportive and helpful on this forum! I don't think I would've survived the application process without it!!!

     

     

    Sorry, I am a day late with this post! I've been sick and working. O_O

     

    Anyhoo, dude, don't worry too much about any of the comments thus far. "Illustration" is a dirty word in the world of fine arts, but it doesn't have to be. The reason for this pejorative use is complex, and so I think a lot of it stems from confusing the "easiness" of the reading of an image with as you said, mistakenly associating graphic/linear (and sometimes humorous) works with that easiness. Personally, I can see your images developing, but they're just not quite there yet, however you ARE definitely on your way. Don't worry about potentially being read as illustrative, and just keep making the work you need to make and pushing yourself and your comfort zone (with both regards to ideas and form). I can see a little bit of Lisa Yuskavage dotted in and around your portfolio, which is interesting. It took me like 5 years of bad drawings to get into school (and your drawings are way ahead of what I was doing a few years ago!). I have also gotten the "illustration" bit, b/c of my love of line-work and use of humor. So don't worry, and just keep making stuff! I was going to remain anonymous, but I have nothing to hide nor regret any of my past posts, so here's my website if you're curious.

     

    Good luck to you in your future applications, and as the Koreans say, fighting!!!!

     

     

    I didn't mean illustration in a pejorative sense, at all. I was thinking more along the lines of fine arts illustration which yes, can exist for commercial purposes, but also can exist as art outside of that. ( Audrey Kawasaki, James Jean, Mark Ryden, and Nick Iluzada are good example of people who would do 'fine art illustration' and I would actually categorize Dzama there too. Personally I feel the only difference between Jean and Dzama is the Zwirner representation for Marcel) 

     

    Perhaps a post-bacc year would be good? 

     

    No offense to any of you chiming in, but I didn't actually ask for a critique! I didn't get into any schools this year, but I didn't have a lot of time to research. I previously was accepted to Cranbrook, SMFA, and SVA (funds issues prevented me from attending), so I'm not desperate for an acceptance or fear that no program will accept my work as "fine arts". Of course I will keep exploring and working on my art, but I do disagree that fine arts cannot include any narrative themes (as they erases centuries of art history) or that painting must include exploration of material. But we can agree to disagree, this thread is not really for that type of stuff. 

  2. Hey you... :)

     

    Just wanted to encourage you to look up Deb Sokolow's work. She started out doing these idiosyncratic, Darger-esque illustrations and long explanations/stories to go with them about her imagined worlds and conspiracy theories. But, beyond the 2D work, she puts on really great performances that are informed by her maps and doodles and drawings. It lets you more into her intention and makes it more accessible. 

     

    Thanks for the suggestion! I do enjoy work like that.

     

     

     

    Ten of swords, have you thought of going into illustration?

     

     

    I was going to say the same thing as Erpnope. Have you considered illustration? Your work has some interesting elements but seem more illustrative to me, than fine art. I think you'd be a strong candidate for illustration programs. 

     

    I get the illustration thing a lot, but I have no interest in that. Illustration is inherently commercial or for some sort of purpose, while fine arts is outside of that. There's lots of artists that do illustrative-type work that aren't illustrators, say like Marcel Dzama or Amy Cutler. But really I think people just associate drawing with illustration, and everyone sees painters as fine arts. 

  3. do you mind me asking if you were accepted? I seemed to click with unite a few people who were interviewing, but I think it was just my interviewer that was the problem.

    Everyone was super nice and friendly, I just felt so out of it that day, maybe I was just mentally unprepared.

     

    Yeah, I actually said I was interviewed and accepted. :P For me the size of the program and then the small amount of financial aid they gave me were the main reasons that I turned them down. I was just bugged in the interview (it was a professor and a grad student) how the grad student seemed to focus on how fun it was, how the critiques weren't super hard, etc, etc. For me that just isn't what I want to hear. 

  4. Had my interview yesterday at SMFA. Was an interesting experience, eveyone was super nice but I didn't feel as if I really fit in with a lot of the faculty/students. Another person interviewing actually recognized me from this site and a exchanged email/phone numbers with a few potential smfa students. It was a nice experience but again, I didn't really feel like I matched well with the school, which is probably an issue with me rather than smfa.

    I've been trying to compare massart to smfa, does anyone have any insight about the schools? The faculty at smfa said their program was less structured, but massart seemed to offer a lot of freedom as well. Thu also said massart was more technique driven while smfa is conceptually driven, but I'm not so sure that is entirely true, it seems like massart facilities are just better than smfa's.

    Also, I had an incredibly awkward interview. My interviewer seemed completely uninterested in my work. I felt like i was wasting her time after she told me she liked only one of my pieces (a maya/3d printer piece) and that the rest of my work was too literal. What a bummer...

     

    Arsenic, I was interviewed and accepted to SMFA last year and felt pretty similarly to you about the school. I didn't really click with anyone there and it just didn't feel very "me." I was interviewed by a professor who didn't do studio arts at all so that made it a bit awkward for me. 

  5. Ten-of-swords I feel for you! I have been disappointed to not really hear anything- my girlfriend said something that helps me keep perspective. Grad school is not the only way- it's just one way.

    Your work is really interesting! You'll show 'em!!

     

    Thanks so much! I've just been trying to stay stress free and continue making work. 

     

     

     

    Was it via the mail? I haven't heard back from them at all...

     

    Yeah, I got a letter. 

  6. Any word yet from Cornell or Columbia? Noticed that something changed today on my Application Status page for Columbia - my transcript now reads as "Received," meaning apparently that they have reviewed my application. Yikes! Starting to freak out....

     

    Cornell's deadline for apps isn't until the 15th. I doubt they've even started to review them. 

  7. I know someone who was interviewed for Portland State some years ago and got wait listed....then was contacted IN JULY with an acceptance! Isn't that nuts. At that point, wouldn't the majority of people have moved on or be going to another school in August?

     

    Last year SVA accepted me from the waitlist 2 weeks before the semester started! 

  8. This may seem like a strange question, but I wanted y'alls opinions on this subject. I have an interview Wednesday and Friday and wonder how much information I should give about my grades.My grades are ok,2.979 overall, but I started out really rough. Fall 2005 was my first semester (Katrina semester), but I managed to get Bs and Cs, however in 2006, I was in a very abusive relationship, physically and sexually for a few months, breaking up with him almost killed me. I failed that semester and continued withdrawing from all of my classes every semester for almost a year and a half. Dealing with MDD along with the trauma was really difficult, but I pulled through and went on to a very successful college career. How much is too much information for an interview? I dont want to scare them away if they ask about my grades, which they most likely will.

     

    Sorry if this is an inappropriate post, but my senior seminar professor made it very clear when he used to handle admissions at his last university (one that is fairly well known), he, along with other professors, would never want a student with issues,and I'm afraid of how I may sound. Thanks.

     

    If they ask about the grades, I would just say that you were dealing with some health issues/personal issues and that you persevered and graduated and that you're very proud of your achievements. Focus more on the fact that you were able to overcome the issues and make work you are proud of. 

  9. It looks like the University of Michigan is not accepting MFA applicants?? I just recieved this email.

    "Thank you for your interest in the Master of Fine Arts program in the Penny W. Stamps School of Art & Design at the University of Michigan.

    The faculty of the Stamps School are reviewing the MFA program in preparation for revisions that will be announced in 2013. The School has suspended the admissions process for the 2013 application cycle in order to prepare for the revised program.

    We look forward to providing details of the revised MFA as they become available. Information will be posted to our website in mid 2013 at: http://art-design.um...ograms/graduate

    The School will recruit for a new MFA class in 2014."

    I just got this email too! What the heck!!

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