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I like to pretend I got every question right anyway so that I at least had that when everyone rejected me. look, assholes, I may not be good enough for you, but if you put a piece of nondescript bullshit writing in front of me I can absolutely answer any vague question you'd have about it with unerring precision!

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Hopefully you remembered correctly and got 169 on the verbal! If so, that's an awesome score; I'm positive it'll place you in the top 1%.

Thanks for the kind words!

I also know that you don't need to have answered every question correctly to get a perfect score (170).

Wait, what?

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FYI, I just found this on UVA's site:

"Most students admitted for graduate work in English have at least two GRE scores in the ninetieth percentile or higher."

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

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FYI, I just found this on UVA's site:

"Most students admitted for graduate work in English have at least two GRE scores in the ninetieth percentile or higher."

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

I know, right? Departments seem to downplay the importance of GRE scores, but when they release the average figures, they're almost always uniformly stratospheric.

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I know, right? Departments seem to downplay the importance of GRE scores, but when they release the average figures, they're almost always uniformly stratospheric.

it could just mean that there is a high correlation between what adcoms see as top notch writing samples, and high GRE scores.

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it could just mean that there is a high correlation between what adcoms see as top notch writing samples, and high GRE scores.

I think there are probably a fair amount of crap writing samples in the top 1% too. (Different skill sets, conditions, and attitudes involved.) But there're enough applicants in the top 10% to allow for that.

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it could just mean that there is a high correlation between what adcoms see as top notch writing samples, and high GRE scores.

Yes, it's probably the case that the most well-qualified applicants usually do well on the GRE. That seems quite plausible to me.

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Yes, it's probably the case that the most well-qualified applicants usually do well on the GRE. That seems quite plausible to me.

I can't tell if you're kidding or not, but I have to disagree. There's a reason so many departments don't ask for that test--and that's because the correlation is LOW.

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I can't tell if you're kidding or not, but I have to disagree. There's a reason so many departments don't ask for that test--and that's because the correlation is LOW.

It was sincere actually. I was referring to the General Exam, which most every English Ph.D. program I know of requires. I agree that the Subject Test in Literature is just a useless trivia test--hence why I didn't even take it.

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It was sincere actually. I was referring to the General Exam, which most every English Ph.D. program I know of requires. I agree that the Subject Test in Literature is just a useless trivia test--hence why I didn't even take it.

Ahh, my bad! :unsure:

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I'm freaking out about the same thing. My scores are a bit lower than yours but I have a 3.8 GPA, strong letters of recommendation, and working to write a kick- ass writing sample. Obviously I'm not a bone head. I can't seem to do "well" on standardized tests though (my SAT was also average) but I excel in school. I just don't want to have all my hard work thrown out the window because of a dumb test that is pointless to me.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I just want to grumble about the fact that I just spent $125 for my additional score reports yesterday.

This brings the total to $625 that ETS has strangled out of me in the past year (general test twice, subject test, score reports), not including the roughly $450 for study books, notecards, and the Princeton Review class I took last year. That's over $1000 on a test that is universally acknowledged as meaningless in predicting success in graduate school.

Awesome.

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I just want to grumble about the fact that I just spent $125 for my additional score reports yesterday.

This brings the total to $625 that ETS has strangled out of me in the past year (general test twice, subject test, score reports), not including the roughly $450 for study books, notecards, and the Princeton Review class I took last year. That's over $1000 on a test that is universally acknowledged as meaningless in predicting success in graduate school.

Awesome.

Yes, but some schools use it as a (or the) deciding factor when they must choose between two equal candidates for funding, obviously a moot point if you're applying to schools that fully fund all their students, but $1000 in the face of possibly tens of thousands of dollars of funding seems really not so bad...

Oh my god. Have I become an ETS apologist?

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