Do I even have a chance at Peabody College of Education?

[laughingworld]

I may be posting this in the wrong section but here we go. I've earned a bachelors degree in middle school education with a minor in chemistry (3.1 gpa) and a masters degree in science education (3.95 gpa). I would like to go to the Peabody College of Education to get a doctorate in Leadership and Policy in the fall of 2014 but I'm not sure if I can get in.

 

Here's my GRE scores:

450V 60%

450Q 25%

4.5W 67%

 

I also have two years of student teaching, two years of part time teaching and a year of working DUKE TIP as well as amazing recommendation letters from some fairly distinguished alumni of Peabody in the field that I've worked with. 

 

I know that GRE scores aren't the end all be all for education programs, but I feel like mine is just too low. Advise or opinions please?

Edited July 11, 2013 by laughingworld

[ctcpx084]

This is taken right from Peabody's web site, located here.

 

Application to the Ed.D. program can be made through the online application. Application fees are waived when you apply online.

Check the  Tuition and Financial Aid page and the Admissions Timelinefor additional information.

For your application you will need the following:

• Personal statement
• Professional and personal recommendations
• Evidence of successful professional experience
• Undergraduate and graduate transcripts
• GRE scores
• Additional materials (e.g., portfolio or articles)

Admission to the program depends upon several factors, including the quality of application materials, relevant and acceptable degree(s) from accredited institution(s), participant/program fit, competitive grades, and a combined verbal and quantitative GRE score of 1100 or higher. Achieving the minimum required score does not guarantee admission. The average GRE score of entering cohorts is above 1200.

[ctcpx084]

They say the average GRE is above 1200, so _maybe_ there will be a few students below the 1100 number given, but I don't know. Without knowing anything about Peabody or this program, I'd have to believe that anyone below a "1200" GRE would have to have exceptional experience, letters of recommendation, and of course a great statement of purpose. From your post, it sounds like you've got a few good letters, but your resume seems a little light to balance out the GRE score. 

 

Have you thought about taking the GRE again? You could take a prep course, or prepare on your own, while perhaps working another year or two. If you did better, you might be able to get closer to their stated numbers while bolstering your resume a little.

 

Before you do that, I'd talk to the department and see what they have to say, and if you can find any Peabody people on here or elsewhere I'd get at them and see what they have to say. If I were going through the blargh application process again, I'd want to be as competitive as possible in as many areas as I could manage. The GRE sucks, and certainly wasn't the strength of my application, but ultimately I would have taken it again if I thought it would improve my chances at all. Again, I don't know (actually, I doubt) that they will use GRE as a simple cut to their admissions list, but your score is going stand out as is--and not for a good reason.

 

Talk to them and see what they recommend!

 

Anyway, back to summer reading...

Edited July 12, 2013 by wjdavis

[Chai_latte]

I would definitely take the GRE again.  I don't think you can afford not to.  Peabody has unusually high scores for a grad school of education.  Their average GRE score was about a 1370 a few years back w/ an acceptance rate of 12%.  You seem to have a good amount of experience under your belt (w/ great recs!) and a great graduate GPA.  You don't want your scores to take away from that.  At least shoot for a 1200.  I've heard good things about the Manhattan Prep books and Magoosh (sp?). 

[ctcpx084]

I would definitely take the GRE again.  I don't think you can afford not to.  Peabody has unusually high scores for a grad school of education.  Their average GRE score was about a 1370 a few years back w/ an acceptance rate of 12%.  You seem to have a good amount of experience under your belt (w/ great recs!) and a great graduate GPA.  You don't want your scores to take away from that.  At least shoot for a 1200.  I've heard good things about the Manhattan Prep books and Magoosh (sp?). 

 

They don't carry that #1 ranking for nothing!

[Quant_Liz_Lemon]

Peabody person (kinda) here. Take the GRE again. Unless you have an advocate for your admission, (which only happens when you have kickass everything else). you're going to have a very tough time getting in. 

[mrorange211]

I called and this was their reply:

 

"If you can't hit 316, don't apply."

 

They basically said that all application under a 316 aren't even considered. 

[mrorange211]

Also, they had 250 applicants last year. 

 

7 were accepted. 

[ctcpx084]

Yowzahhh...!

[mrorange211]

This is for the PhD program, however, 

 

I am sure there are much better stats for the EdD & MA. 

[Quant_Liz_Lemon]

The old cut-off was 1400; 1300 if you had a very pretty CV. But, yes, admissions really likes high GRE scores. 

I called and this was their reply:

 

"If you can't hit 316, don't apply."

 

They basically said that all application under a 316 aren't even considered. 

[wildviolet]

 

I may be posting this in the wrong section but here we go. I've earned a bachelors degree in middle school education with a minor in chemistry (3.1 gpa) and a masters degree in science education (3.95 gpa). I would like to go to the Peabody College of Education to get a doctorate in Leadership and Policy in the fall of 2014 but I'm not sure if I can get in.

 

Here's my GRE scores:

450V 60%

450Q 25%

4.5W 67%

 

I also have two years of student teaching, two years of part time teaching and a year of working DUKE TIP as well as amazing recommendation letters from some fairly distinguished alumni of Peabody in the field that I've worked with. 

 

I know that GRE scores aren't the end all be all for education programs, but I feel like mine is just too low. Advise or opinions please?

 

 

That is a low quant score for policy! Policy programs usually involve lots of quantitative data analysis, so I'd think they want to see high quant scores.

[lilgreycells]

Peabody LPS PhD student here. You definitely want to re-take your GRE. It is not the most important part of your package but, due to the high number of quality applications, GRE scores are an easy area to cut someone out of the process. And wildviolet is definitely correct that the quant scores matter a lot for us. PM me if you want to chat more and good luck on your admissions cycle.

[Quant_Liz_Lemon]

I found the masters program stats. (US News). PhD/EdD requirements are what's already been discussed.

 

Master's programs Applications 956 

Acceptance rate 57.9% 

Enrollment

443 full-time
97 part-time

Average undergraduate GPA 3.5 

Average GRE score (old test)

568 verbal
661 quantitative

 

Average GRE score (new test)

157 verbal
153 quantitative

 

Average GRE analytical writing score 4.4 

Edited July 24, 2013 by Quant_Liz_Lemon

[SheWrote]

I called and this was their reply:

 

"If you can't hit 316, don't apply."

 

They basically said that all application under a 316 aren't even considered. 

 

 

Are you serious? My old GRE score is a 1300 which translates to a 315 when I sign into ETS. So LPO program told you that they don't even look at applications below 316?