clurp Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 USNews rankings are based on data from the same year (2010), I think.
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 If anyone cares, U.S. News and World Report will be releasing completely new rankings on its website on Mar. 11. So we may have a completely different ranked list for USNWR in a month than what it currently is (although I suspect that the top tier will remain mostly unchanged... there could be some shake-ups below that though).
persistent_homology Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Just FYI, the 'Statistics and Probability' rankings are missing basically all of the top biostat programs. They are listed under 'Public Health'. I was wondering where they were, thanks. Honestly speaking, I guess the NRC rankings may not reflect current situations. It seems to be made many years ago, right? Good point, I believe it was started in 2006 and finished in 2010. I might try scraping the admissions data from the gradcafe over the weekend. I admit we don't really understand the sampling process, but we ought to able to see trends like increasing numbers of applications, ratios of acceptances and so on. Perhaps if we can compare to some official figures from some of the schools, we could get an idea of how the sample differs from reality. Edited February 19, 2014 by persistent_homology
clurp Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 The results section of grad cafe could be really interesting if the results were tied to an account and generally kept in better shape.
persistent_homology Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 If anyone cares, U.S. News and World Report will be releasing completely new rankings on its website on Mar. 11. So we may have a completely different ranked list for USNWR in a month than what it currently is (although I suspect that the top tier will remain mostly unchanged... there could be some shake-ups below that though). That's exciting! Maybe we should try to predict them. That is after all meant to be our business.
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I was wondering where they were, thanks. Good point, I believe it was started in 2006 and finished in 2010. I might try scraping the admissions data from the gradcafe over the weekend. I admit we don't really understand the sampling process, but we ought to able to see trends like increasing numbers of applications, ratios of acceptances and so on. Perhaps if we can compare to some official figures from some of the schools, we could get an idea of how the sample differs from reality. Maybe we can do one of those "Fall 2014 Applicant Profiles and Admissions Results" threads like they have over at mathematicsgre.com. I will start it right now.
statisticsfall2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 It would be fun to compile all relevant admissions data into one place, format it, and analyze it. The new thread will be a great piece of information. Some others: The page-source of the results page when the keyword "statistics" is entered. And departments who post admissions statistics.
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 I just logged onto the Minnesota website and the decision was available, and I was rejected. Just as an fyi to anyone waiting to hear from UMN, you may be able to see your decision on the applyyourself site. Congrats to those who got in!
probstats Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 There is a bitter applicant who received a Minnesota rejection posting on the results page. He claims he was rejected because the program only accepts females. This is utterly false, and I really hope it doesn't deter future applications!
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 There is a bitter applicant who received a Minnesota rejection posting on the results page. He claims he was rejected because the program only accepts females. This is utterly false, and I really hope it doesn't deter future applications! What a douche. Unfortunately this kind of entitlement/sexism is not uncommon in STEM fields (i.e. bitter males thinking they are the bomb and blaming women when they are rejected).
effhorses Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Finally got the Michigan rejection. My guess is they're just now getting to the applicants who asked their applications be transferred to the Master's program. I told them I was no longer interested.
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Michigan was a tough one to crack this year. I think the e-mail said less than 6 percent acceptance rate. I perhaps should not have even bothered with this one. I think I should be receiving my Berkeley rejection this week or early next week. UCLA should be releasing some results this week too, methinks. Hopefully I am still being considered for Rice and UNC-Chapel Hill's next round of acceptances.
StatPhD2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Michigan was a tough one to crack this year. I think the e-mail said less than 6 percent acceptance rate. I perhaps should not have even bothered with this one. I think I should be receiving my Berkeley rejection this week or early next week. UCLA should be releasing some results this week too, methinks. Hopefully I am still being considered for Rice and UNC-Chapel Hill's next round of acceptances. Did it say under 6%? There was someone else who said it said under 10%, i am just curious what the admissions rate was. If anyone is curious they took around 30 students this year
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Did it say under 6%? There was someone else who said it said under 10%, i am just curious what the admissions rate was. If anyone is curious they took around 30 students this year Maybe it was under 10%, I don't know. I would not be surprised if it was around 6% or lower. Looking at the admissions data (when provided) on schools' websites isn't always useful for statistics, because it typically includes Master's students too, which skews the acceptance percentage reported up. (e.g. Columbia accepts over 50% of those who apply to their Stats MA, but I imagine it's less than 10% for the PhD). Even at "lower ranked" schools, the acceptance rates for PhD students are low, because of funding issues. As I previously mentioned, my Master's institution (a 2nd tier school) can only admit two or three funded PhD students in statistics every year, so the waitlist is very long but the actual acceptance rate is certainly in the single percentages. Edited February 20, 2014 by Stat Applicant
StatPhD2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Maybe it was under 10%, I don't know. I would not be surprised if it was around 6% or lower. Looking at the admissions data (when provided) on schools' websites isn't always useful for statistics, because it typically includes Master's students too, which skews the acceptance percentage reported up. (e.g. Columbia accepts over 50% of those who apply to their Stats MA, but I imagine it's less than 10% for the PhD). Even at "lower ranked" schools, the acceptance rates for PhD students are low, because of funding issues. As I previously mentioned, my Master's institution (a 2nd tier school) can only admit two or three funded PhD students in statistics every year, so the waitlist is very long but the actual acceptance rate is certainly in the single percentages. And acceptance rates are not the only thing to look at Stanford has a higher acceptance rate than most of these other programs, because it has the subject test requirement. Also for lower tier schools most top tier students probably would not even apply there (even if they have a great overall school name).
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 And acceptance rates are not the only thing to look at Stanford has a higher acceptance rate than most of these other programs, because it has the subject test requirement. Also for lower tier schools most top tier students probably would not even apply there (even if they have a great overall school name). True dat. Frankly, given the current situation, I don't think anyone should feel that bad about getting rejections (especially since the popularity of stats has grown in recent years, and a lot of "sexy" careers like data scientist are being touted so the number of grad applications for statistics depts has spiked). It's just so competitive right now, and funding at public universities is scarce. Even 2nd tier schools are taking less than 10 percent of applicants (some of these may take a greater number of unfunded students, but no funding for a PhD is just as bad -- or worse -- than a rejection). I myself have 5 years of industry experience in various sectors, so I'm fairly used to rejection from the job hunt (the number of which is in the hundreds). Just the way it is.
statdreamgirl Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) True dat. Frankly, given the current situation, I don't think anyone should feel that bad about getting rejections (especially since the popularity of stats has grown in recent years, and a lot of "sexy" careers like data scientist are being touted so the number of grad applications for statistics depts has spiked). It's just so competitive right now, and funding at public universities is scarce. Even 2nd tier schools are taking less than 10 percent of applicants (some of these may take a greater number of unfunded students, but no funding for a PhD is just as bad -- or worse -- than a rejection). I myself have 5 years of industry experience in various sectors, so I'm fairly used to rejection from the job hunt (the number of which is in the hundreds). Just the way it is. stat Applicant, have you heard back from Rice. seems that they have sent some offers based on the results page. worried , wish they tell me soon, no matter its good or bad news. Edited February 20, 2014 by statdreamgirl
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 stat Applicant, have you heard back from Rice. seems that they have sent some offers based on the results page. worried , wish they tell me soon, no matter its good or bad news. statdreamgirl, I have not heard from Rice. I was told in the interview with them (exactly 2 weeks ago) that I should hear back within 1-2 weeks. If I have not heard back by tomorrow, I will send them an e-mail.
CauchyProcess Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Just got a rejection from UC Berkeley.
aridneptune Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 I also got rejected from Berkeley just now.
StatPhD2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) what time was this? Edit: nvm i see once i posted, it looks like gradcafe is on greenwich mean time (GMT) which makes sense Edited February 20, 2014 by StatPhD2014
statisticsfall2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Same, just received the Berkeley rejection.
Stat Assistant Professor Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 I have not heard anything from Berkeley. It seems safe to assume that I was rejected, but in the slight chance I was waitlisted... did you guys log onto the gradadmit website for UCB and see that your status had been changed? It still says "Submitted" for me. Thanks.
clurp Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Got an email that linked to the website where there was a rejection letter.
StatPhD2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 they are probably sending the emails one at a time
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