FantasticalDevPsych
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To demonstrate shadowclaw's point, I still have a week and a day of classes before my Spring Break at my undergrad insitutuion. My undergrad department is trying to have all decisions out before then, so I'd think it's highly possible to hear on your Spring Break if it doesn't line up with the school you are hoping to hear from!
And to add to interesting other things to consider with admissions descions, my Spring Break is also the week of a big biannual confrence in my field so I don't think committees would meet during something like that! To be accepted at that meeting or on break would be great but I don't think it'll be happening for me this year.
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I'm sorry, I phrased this wrong!
I meant to say that a program that cannot even afford to fund a student probably is lacking in other resources-- i.e., if they magically received enough money to take on a student, chances are that the program will not be in any shape to provide remotely decent conference support or have resources to cover other student needs.
Ah ok! I definitely understand that point now!
This is true. Not only does lack of funding directly affect you, but it also indicates something about the state of the department and the research money (not) flowing in there.
So true as everywhere (across states and different fields) seems to have funding problems right now.
It all seems to go down to one point: funding right now is really hurting, everywhere.
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That is AWFUL!!!
The one that told me they have no $ was my number one program, and they implied that they will consider accepting a student without funding. I keep telling myself that the inability to afford a student is indicative of deeper systemic issues, and that it is for the best I don't go there-- For example, who wants to go to a program that lacks conference support or lacks the resources to present students with as many learning opportunities. Looking at it that way helps me a lot, and I hope it helps you
It is AWFUL. I had a good cry for most of the day that it happened on. I told a friend (a current grad student in my area) and my undergrad advisor (couldn't escape this one as she helped write the email I sent to check my status) and they were both very supportive, giving me advice and how to improve my application and what to do in the year I now have nothing to do in and telling me to not give up.
To have gotten so close and to be rejected because of that is so difficult but I'm trying to use the fact that I did get that close as motivation to try again. I'm an undergrad so I'll be looking for a lab manager job and trying to publish one (if not both) of my undergrad theses before next application season.
That's not too good either... It does help a little to think of it like that. Mine was one where they seek to fund everyone so I'm expecting flat out rejection, not an unfunded offer.
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Also wanted to mention (as a fellow psych geek!):
I had a program I interviewed at tell me "PS, we probably don't have funding for a student at all."
Another place I interviewed at- an R1- has only one professor accepting students due to financial constraints.
It really helps me make sense of rejection when I consider exactly how terrible the financial situation is at some of these universities.
Agreed that it does but it still hurts. Some people at my undergrad (R1 and top 15) are mentioning that it's becoming much more common to have been a lab manager before being accepted, which is probably partly due to this as well.
This happened to FantasticalDevPsych too. Really shitty if they ask for applicants to show up on their own dime or taking off of work.
Yes it did. And I think it shut me out. I found out at interview that I was probably the student my POI would take if there was funding as I was the only one there for them. Found out from my thank you email that there was probably no funding. At least I'm supposed to receive reimbursement but still. It's nice to feel wanted though (currently using as some of my motivation to try again) but missing class (undergrad) was no fun.
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Adding some more general to this thread:
I did send a personalized one to my POI at my one interview. I received an email in response the same day answering my question about the next steps in the process too (unfortunately it didn't have too good news about my POI getting funding).
My current PI (for undergrad), who I've been working with for two years now, said they really appreciate them and that to them, it definetely looks good to send them.
My advice for the situation above (take with a grain of salt though):
I'd send one detailed one to your first choice and possibly thank the interviewer for their time and possibly mentioning trying to collaborate with your second choice if the school seemed open to encouraging that.
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I worked on an undergrad student committee that brought George Takei to my campus (large state school). I met him and his husband Brad, awesome people!
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Applying at 21 if accepted this round will start at 22!
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I actually like that they did interview these candidates and not just admit them because they were known.
But you are right, that does seem very high! And I agree that kind of defeats the purpose of interviewing external candidates at all!
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From what I can tell it all seems to boil down to being an exceptional applicant and professor and department preference regarding staying at your same institution!
As well as the stigma being a stigma: it also seems to vary depending on who you are talking to!
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As someone who actually really wanted to remain at my undergrad insitution and with my current PI (well known in my area and someone I've enjoyed working with), from asking around my undergrad department (top 15), I learned that my current departement only admits undergrads there under exceptional circumstances. Though I also observed the preference for someone they know vs someone who is from another university seemed to be very professor specific as some mentioned expiclity about not wanting UGs to remian at their UG insitution and some told me to try and apply anyway.
On my interview I think there were some undergrads from the school there interviewing but the number was small from what I can remember. My POI there actually also did not want me to remain at my undergrad insitution (even though my PI was my POIs advisor).
So from what I observed there is a really bad stigma about this.
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I am applying for an MA. I've heard it's so much later than American schools (like March or April at the earliest...)
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