[Applying to MS Stats programs with a light math background]

I was in a similar situation last year when I applied: Econ major with high GPA and insufficient math background. But I did have mathematical probability and two more advanced econometrics courses.

And I got into Berkeley and Duke, certainly not as great as other applicants with stellar profiles, but acceptable. 

My suggestion would be: if you work a lot with data in your consulting job, maybe it is better to ask your supervisor to write a letter for you (instead of Calc professor)? If possible, take one or two summer courses, multivariable calculus and mathematical probability are all good choices. The admission committee is searching for your grades of these courses on your transcript.

Also, maybe you can take GRE Math Subject to make up the light background?

[UCB vs Duke vs Yale vs USF Analytics]

On 3/16/2017 at 4:19 AM, newstyle27 said:

I also encounter the same problem.

At first, I more prefer Duke because of the course arrangement, but someone told be Cal has better reputation and location.

I am now trying to use the placement to decide which one is better.

I am quite interested which one would you choose, so could you please tell me your decision after you make your mind?

Thanks!

 

Hey just wanna let you know I chose UCB at last. Duke has better program, but it's all about location, location, location. lol.

[UCB, Umich, Duke, UIUC master of Statistics]

I got accepted to both UCB and Duke so probably I can offer you more info on these two schools.

I went to Duke's Open House event last weekend and enjoyed it a lot. All the professors are very nice and approachable, and it seems like the department cares a lot about the MSS program, which is kinda unusual comparing to other schools. TA and RA opportunities are plenty, so is opportunity to work with Duke Medical center on health-related projects (the director mentions year-long internship, it seems like the medical center really needs people who can analyze large datasets). The department is very Bayesian-focused, but I don't think it means a lot for employers. The curriculum strikes a great balance between theoretical and applied sides. And of course, two-year duration is always better than one-year.

However, from what the MSS students told me, firms in RTP hire more students from Chapel Hill and NC State than Duke, partially because Duke is trying to be 'national' and 'international'. Given its location, it is hard to go 'national'. So that has put Duke in a very awkward position. Jobs in Bay Area are certainly possible, but you need to work very hard by yourself. Staying in RTP is relatively easy (if not guaranteed), so most people use it as a back-up plan.

For UCB, it is possible to stay for a third semester if you become a TA for the 2nd and 3rd semester. The department is more theoretical. Opportunities in Bay Area are plenty, because of its location and alum network. But personally I don't think the department puts much emphasis on the MA program, especially when comparing with Duke.

I chose UCB at last. Although I believe going to Duke would be a MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE experience, and I like the program very much, I have succumbed to UCB's location and stronger alum network. 

Hope it helps.

[UCB vs Duke vs Yale vs USF Analytics]

14 hours ago, Innominate said:

What information are you using to determine that Berk > Duke is objectively false?  For instance, USNews rankings are a reputation-only measurement, with UCB sitting at 4.7 and Duke at 4.1 (out of 5), a significant difference which indicates the opposite of what you're saying.

lynntoujours, this may have been pointed out to you already but you can get the placement information easily since Duke posts it (http://stat.duke.edu/people/masters-alumni).  Scanning over it it seems like industry placements are by far the most common result (triangle area especially), with very few people not finding a good industry job or a PhD.  However, take a look for yourself and see if those companies are somewhere you could see working!  I think it's also worth pointing out that they seem to have even more folks doing PhDs in not-statistics after leaving Duke.

I have no idea if similar data is obtainable from Berkeley but you can formulate a very precise estimate of your odds of landing an industry job through that info from Duke, to see if the triangle < silicon valley claim is justified.

Thank you for your advice! Duke has done a great job in posting placement results, if only Berkeley can do the same!

[UCB vs Duke vs Yale vs USF Analytics]

On 3/16/2017 at 4:19 AM, newstyle27 said:

I also encounter the same problem.

At first, I more prefer Duke because of the course arrangement, but someone told be Cal has better reputation and location.

I am now trying to use the placement to decide which one is better.

I am quite interested which one would you choose, so could you please tell me your decision after you make your mind?

Thanks!

 

This may be the most difficult decision in my life. Have been tortured by this for over a week now. I am planning to go to Duke's Open House event next week, hope that could help.

If you have any new thoughts about these two programs, could you please post them here so that we could discuss? I will surely do the same. Thank you!

[UCB vs Duke vs Yale vs USF Analytics]

On 3/16/2017 at 8:40 AM, footballman2399 said:

It seems to me Duke's program is more theoretical, and given that you were an econ major (I was too), I definitely think that this will boost your profile for a PhD. I also wouldn't worry too much about recruitment. I imagine Duke, with its brand name, places people nationally and not just regionally. Even if they do place regionally, the Research Triangle has probably more technology companies per capita than any other region in the US save for maybe Silicon Valley.

Going off newstyle, I won't deny Berkeley is in a better location, but I think the claim that it has a better reputation is objectively false (equal maybe). If you're interested in Bayesian stats, Duke is THE place to be. Even people on this forum with absolutely stellar profiles get rejected to Duke's PhD program because it's that competitive.

Thank you for your advice! Because I don't have a strong mathematical and statistics background, I really want to gain a systematic understanding of statistics in masters program. Two-year Duke program seems to be better in this aspect, though very theoretical. However, given that I want to work in data science after graduation, Berkeley (strength in CS, location, reputation, more alums in this industry) may help me more with job-search.

To become a data scientist, do you think I should focus more on machine learning and programming (Berkeley) or lay a systematic, solid foundation (Duke) first?

Thank you so much for your help! I deeply appreciate it.

[UCB vs Duke vs Yale vs USF Analytics]

I fortunately got accepted into statistics master's programs at UC Berkeley, Duke, Yale and Analytics MS at USF.

My plan is to work in data science for 2-3 years after the masters and then apply for Statistics PhD. That being said, I guess my future research interest would be in data science/machine learning, etc. After PhD, I will return to industry and work as a data scientist.

Based on my plan, which program do you think I should choose?

UCB's location is wonderful, but it is only a one-year program. I am an economics major, instead of math or statistics. So to prepare for PhD application, actually I need to take a lot of classes in math and statistics. I don't know if one year is enough. Plus, if I am focusing on getting good grades at Berkeley, I am afraid I won't have enough time to apply for full-time jobs and prepare for tech interviews. After all, my primary goal after masters is to work in data science.

Duke's program is two-year, and if I do extremely well, there is a high chance that I can get into its PhD. So PhD preparation-wise, I think it would be a good choice. But on the other hand, speaking of job opportunities, I don't think Durham NC could compete with Silicon Valley. After all, I need to secure a job after graduation.

Should I even consider Yale or USF analytics?

Any suggestions will help. Thank you so much!

[2017 Admissions General]

6 hours ago, machinescholar said:

I am currently a CS student at Columbia. As much as I love my alma mater, I do not think Columbia MS Stats living up to the university name. They admit a lot of MS students every year (200+). Masters courses are segregated from the PhD ones and taught mostly by Adjunct Professors. So you have to work really hard to get Professors' attentions and good research opportunities. The graduation placement record to both industries and PhD programmes are not very encouraging either.

Thank you! It is very helpful! I will just ignore its brand and location then. 

[2017 Admissions General]

The efficiency of Columbia Stats masters admission is unbelievable. Got accepted two weeks after I submitted the application. 

I heard some negative comments about this program. Between Columbia stats masters and Yale stats masters, could anyone give me some suggestions on which one is better?

Yale has a very small department, I guess that explains a lot about their relatively lower ranking. I visited the department last week and liked it a lot. Feels like it would be a better choice than Columbia. Any suggestions please?

[Master's Statistics: UWashington v/s Columbia v/s Duke]

The results of these 3 programs are posted???

[MS Statistics Programs Still Open]

You can try Columbia's MA Statistics Program (ranked 20ish I believe). No kidding, but their deadline is in April! 

[2017 Admissions General]

18 minutes ago, marmle said:

Nope, the phd decisions are usually out sometime in mid-February but idk about the masters, I'd try looking in the results search

Gotcha. Thank you!

[2017 Admissions General]

14 minutes ago, marmle said:

@lynntoujours Phd, there was an acceptance posted today. But there were also 2 acceptances posted for the masters a few days ago

Thanks! have you heard anything about UCBerkeley stats masters?

[2017 Admissions General]

2 hours ago, marmle said:

Congrats to those that got into Berkeley and UCLA Biostats!

Has anyone heard from CMU stats? Someone posted an acceptance earlier and I'm getting kind of worried

Excuse me, are you talking about UC Berkeley masters or PhD?

[2017 Fall Yale Statistics MA already announced?]

Yes, the result was out this Monday.

[2017 Admissions General]

On 1/26/2017 at 4:27 PM, poopyhead said:

PhD applications need to be in by April 15, so they'll be first. 

Thank you! Now I can calm myself down. And could you please take a look at my profile if you have time? Getting a sense of what programs I can possibly get into can be really helpful for my summer planning. I deeply appreciate any advice! Thank you!

 

[2017 Admissions General]

On 1/26/2017 at 4:21 PM, footballman2399 said:

We are indeed referring to the PhD programs. It's certainly not abnormal to not have heard from Master's programs. Most schools will take care of PhD admissions first and then move on to Master's.

Thank you! Now I can calm myself down. And could you please take a look at my profile if you have time? Getting a sense of what programs I can possibly get into can be really helpful for my summer planning. I deeply appreciate any advice! Thank you!

 

[Statistics MS Profile Evaluation (Deeply Appreciate any advice!!!)]

On 11/22/2016 at 3:32 AM, Robbentheking said:

I'm just an applicant as well, but my impression from reading through these forums is that for someone applying to masters programs, your profile is quite competitive. I guess having Real Analysis on your transcript, or any sort of proof based math, would be ideal, but your more interested in applied statistics anyway. My impression is that 168Q is more than sufficient for master programs. I wouldn't worry about that.

Obviously you've basically picked all the best programs here, but I'd like to think you'll find success somewhere on the list. I think I read somewhere that Columbia's MS really isn't hard to get into.

As always, it would be cool if one of the people that actually knows what they're talking about would pipe up. I think in general there are a lot more profile evlauations for PhD on here, making it a bit harder for MS applicants to get a handle on where they stand.

Thank you for your advice! I just heard from Yale today. Hopefully I can hear from more programs as we are approaching March. Good luck to your application!

[2017 Admissions General]

Just wanna make sure:

You guys are all talking about PhD programs here, right? As I am applying for only Masters program, it is normal that I haven't heard anything from any program now, right? All the programs I applied say they'll send out decisions by late Feb or March.

Many thanks!!!

[Applying for Stats MS with Insufficient Math Background]

On 6/5/2016 at 10:21 AM, StatMaster2016 said:

I got into Stanford, U Chicago, Harvard, Duke, and more with a background similar to yours. I went to a strong state school, was an econ major, and did not take any proofs based math courses. I did take a statistics course that taught R and an intro CS course that used Python. I also took a mathematical stats course, which seems to be a pre-req for some of the programs. I did well on the GRE and did not take the math subject test-- I did not have a strong enough background to take it

Good luck!

Thank you so much for your comment! If you have any free time, may I ask you more questions regrading stats MS application? The schools you got into are exactly what I want to apply.

[Statistics MS Profile Evaluation (Deeply Appreciate any advice!!!)]

Hello,

I am a senior in college and intend to apply to MS programs in Statistics. Currently I have no interests in pursuing research&academia. Want to learn more about stats, data science and machine learning and find a good job after graduation.

Undergrad Institution: Liberal Arts College (top 20)
Major: Double in Economics and Politics, Minor in Math
GPA: 3.94 overall, 4.0 in Economics and 3.9+ in Politics. 4.0 in Math.

Honor: Economic Summer Research Fellowship; one Economic award; one Scholar award for best first-year students

Type of student: Asian female
GRE: Q: 168-95%, V: 164-94%, W: 4.5-82%

Courses: 
Undergrad: Mathematical Probability (A), Calculus 2 (A), Linear Algebra (A+), Multivariable Calculus (A), Geometry (A), Economic Statistics (A), Econometrics (A), Time Series Econometrics (A), Economics of Big Data (We learned machine learning methods) (A) 
Programming: Proficiency in Python, R and Stata
On-Going & Next Semester: Econ Senior Thesis, Intro to Algorithm, Differential Equation

(Research) Experience: 

-Summer research assistant for my Economics Professor. Helped him clean and organize data in Stata, map the data in R. Panel data, FE Regressions. Also, helped him to construct another dataset by searching information online with teammates. 

-Summer Internship at a fin-tech firm as Predictive Analytics Intern. We applied machine learning methods to our prediction model to predict default rate. Tested almost all applicable methods and finally came up with the optimal one. Used Python and R. 

Letters of recommendation: 
All are my economic professors. 

- My summer research supervisor, also my supervisor at the fin-tech firm (his summer job), took two courses with him, as well as senior thesis.

- Took 3 courses with him, including Time Series Econometrics

- Took Econometrics with him. He has published some influential papers. 

Concerns: 

My college doesn't have a Stats department, so technically I don't have any stats courses. Also, compared to other candidates, my mathematical background is pretty light (no Mathematical Statistics, no higher-level proof courses, not enough math courses?). I can only hope that my grades can show that I have the ability to learn those higher-level materials. Also, my GRE Quant score is not super competitive. 

School List:

• Harvard
• Stanford
• UC Berkeley
• Northwestern Analytics Program
• UChicago
• Duke
• University of Washington
• Carnegie Mellon
• Columbia
• Yale

I feel like these programs are all kind of risky for me. But currently I don't have a clear idea of what levels of schools are 'safe' for me. Any suggestions, please?

Thank you so much!! I deeply appreciate for all your help!!!

[Applying for Stats MS with Insufficient Math Background]

Hello Everyone,

I am a rising senior and double major in econ and politics in a top liberal arts college in New England. I am thinking about applying for MS in stats (hopefully some top programs). I have a 3.9+ GPA, with both math courses and econ major gpa being 4.0. I did research with my econ professor last summer, therefore had some experiences working with really large dataset and developed good Stata and R skills. Right now, I am working as a financial analyst intern at a small investment/research company, accumulating more experiences using linear regression+advanced machine learning methods.

My biggest weakness is that I haven't taken many math courses. I took Calc, multivariable calc, linear algebra, geometry and probability at school. In addition, I did econ stats, econometrics, time series econometrics and the economics of big data (learning machine learning methods), which were all highly quantitative courses. However, I don't have maths stats or any rigorous "proof" math courses on my transcript, such as real analysis. I was wondering if it will seriously hurt my chances of getting into top MS programs and if I should adjust my program-choosing strategy accordingly. Also, will taking GRE Math Subject test compensate my insufficient math background?

I will take both GRE and math subject test in September.

Thank you so much for your advice!

[Applying for Stats MS with Insufficient Math Background]

Hello Everyone,

I am a rising senior and double major in econ and politics in a top liberal arts college in New England. I am thinking about applying for MS in stats (hopefully some top programs). I have a 3.9+ GPA, with both math courses and econ major gpa being 4.0. I did research with my econ professor last summer, therefore had some experiences working with really large dataset and developed good Stata and R skills. Right now, I am working as a financial analyst intern at a small investment/research company, accumulating more experiences using linear regression+advanced machine learning methods.

My biggest weakness is that I haven't taken many math courses. I took Calc, multivariable calc, linear algebra, geometry and probability at school. In addition, I did econ stats, econometrics, time series econometrics and the economics of big data (learning machine learning methods), which were all highly quantitative courses. However, I don't have any rigorous "proof" math courses on my transcript, such as real analysis. I was wondering if it will seriously hurt my chances of getting into top MS programs and if I should adjust my program-choosing strategy accordingly. Also, will taking GRE Math Subject test compensate my insufficient math background?

I will take both GRE and math subject test in September.

Thank you so much for your advice!