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9 minutes ago, speechbean said:
- if I am below that cutoff does that automatically mean I won't get an interview?
I think so. Someone with a 3.82 didn't get an interview last year.
EDIT: apparently 2 years ago someone got an interview with a 3.73 and someone with a 3.75 didn't, so maybe it's not 100% automatic. But I haven't heard of anyone getting in with less than a 3.84 last year, and it's probably safe to assume that it will be even higher this year.
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14 hours ago, Dream_of_slp said:
Hi Slp2020ab
Thanks for responding :). I applied to uoft and western.
Your subGPA is a bit on the lower side, but you could have a chance for both. Someone last year got into UofT with a subGPA slightly higher than yours, less volunteer hours and similar research experience (it was very focused on speech - maybe that gave them an edge). But it's hard to tell now that they are not counting volunteer hours/clinical reference letters at all. Grades probably have much more weight now.
As for Western, it seems a bit random. They waitlisted applicants with all sorts of subGPAs (from ~3.5 to 3.9 if I'm not wrong) but your experience seems very well rounded so you might have a chance.
But this is all just based on last year's admissions, so who knows if their admission criteria will be the same...all we can do is hope!
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12 hours ago, Dream_of_slp said:
Hey guys,
Hope all is well with you all
My s-GPA is around 3.74. Do you think I have a chance? I have over 600 hrs volunteer experience and 2 research experiences. Also, I am doing my master's in Ling. Plus, I worked in a long-term care facility in a recreational team.
Best,
Sam
Where did you apply?
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That's code for "we screwed up"
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6 minutes ago, Natalie SLP said:
Which is the correct sGPA? The one they listed above saying "overall GPA" or the number at the bottom of the chart?
The bottom is the one that the schools will use. Not sure if they consider the overall GPA at all (I hope not lol)
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12 hours ago, ZemoSLP said:
I did the same thing. I checked for only UofT and assumed the others would accept this course too, especially since the McMaster website says "Human Anatomy/Phsyiology requirement" and the KINE 2011 course is literally called "Human Physiology". It sucks because this is the program I wanted to get into, and I even got an A+ in it as well
. I hope I can get into my other choices...
It's very unfortunate, and there is no mention of this additional requirement on the ORPAS guide, which is where I reviewed the requirements this year. Still, I blame myself for not being thorough!
Do you have another course that might satisfy the requirement? For you and anyone else having the same issue with KINE 2011, I just contacted the department at McMaster and they told me that they will look at the applicant's transcript to see if there is a suitable substitution. So I might still have a chance ?
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15 hours ago, _waffle123 said:
Thank you for the response! I assumed the process would be somewhat like this, so in the end did ORPAS calculate it accurately? Or did you encounter any issues?
It seemed accurate, it matched my own calculations
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7 hours ago, _waffle123 said:
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone is in the same situation as me. I'm pretty worried that SAM/ ORPAS will calculate my sGPA incorrectly since I took some summerschool courses so extracting the 20 most recent credits is a bit confusing for my situation. I'd love to hear insight or if anyone is in the same situation!
I don't think it'll be an issue. Here is something I posted last year:
From my understanding they will count every course individually up to your oldest half credit, and for that half credit they will group and average grades of an entire year if you took more than 1 course (probably because how can they choose which course to pick if you took multiple courses at the same time?). So let's say you took 19 half credits in the last two years, they will need to go back one more semester. If in that semester you took more than 1 course, they will average the gpa of the entire year (they combine fall and winter)
I may be wrong because it can get confusing, but this is what happened in my situation. I took 3 half credit courses in 3 different semesters in 2020. They were not grouped, but counted individually. However, when they summed up all the courses I took after graduating to those taken in my undergrad to reach 20 half credits, they still had to take half a credit from my 3rd undergrad year, where I had an awful average. So for my oldest half credit they used the average of that year
It's a bit of a mess but I hope it helps
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I had no clue about KINE2011 either, and I ended up including it as the prerequisite for McMaster. I just assumed it was accepted since every other school does. And I thought it was a good idea to include it in the prerequisites because it was fairly difficult and I got an A+.
I even took ANAT100 Online at Queens which is included in the approved courses, but that course was a joke compared to KINE2011. And in ANAT100 we barely covered any "areas relevant to SLP", it's literally something that you can learn in a few hours or less (some superficial info on oral cavity structures and larynx as part of the digestive & respiratory system). It's just silly.
Oh well, it was a long shot for me anyway, I guess I just donated 100 bucks to McMaster ?
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Hi everyone, has anyone who's applying to Western noticed something weird with the prerequisites? It says half credit for human anatomy/physiology but it lets you enter more than one.
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Hey! Did anyone from last year write down what the sGPA cut off was to get an interview at McMaster? I managed to get my sGPA to 3.83 (3rd time applying, first time it was 3.3 ?) and I'm wondering if it's worth trying...
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20 hours ago, SLP2020!! said:
Hello! Has anyone got accepted off of the 3rd quadrant of the Western waitlist yet?
I think it's stuck at the very first part of the 2nd quadrant
. Time to make a 2022 thread lol.
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10 hours ago, SpeechieAlly said:
Hello everyone! I need some help with ORPAS sGPA.
I’ve taken an additional semester of 5 half courses, otherwise my courses fit the typical university structure of 10 half courses per school year. How does ORPAS calculate the remaining 5 needed half courses? Is it just the grades from the winter semester of 3rd year or the entire GPA for the 3rd year that are used to make the remaining grades?
This is from the application guide:
"ORPAS does not separate semesters, and so if an average must be used, it is from the fall and winter durations combined, as this is considered an academic year"
They are so cruel ?
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On 5/29/2021 at 5:13 PM, Quote_Actual said:
Do you know what quandrant you were in, if you dont mind me asking?
justspeechy1 was in the first quadrant if I'm not wrong!
I made an excel file with everyone who shared their waitlist quadrant (I know, creepy lol). So still 1st quadrant ?
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10 hours ago, SpeechieAlly said:
I need some advice from you lovely people! My sGPA for this admission cycle was 3.45 and I made the 4th quadrant of Western’s waitlist. For few reasons the most I may be able to bump it would be to 3.56. Is it worth it for me to try to get that or is it still too low?
I guess 0.11 is still a good bump but it does still seem a bit low and unfortunately applicants' sGPAs are only going to get higher...McMaster is definitely not an option. For Western and UofT, not sure how your volunteering/research experience is, but you'd probably need a stellar one to have a slim chance. But it is still a bit of a gamble as you won't know how much your volunteering will improve your application, and I have a feeling that UofT might do the same they did last year and disregard volunteering experience, so sGPA will weigh more.
If you have the means and you really want to get in, it may be worth it to do a second degree...I know it seems daunting and a waste of time/resources, but you'll have the opportunity to get a lot of high grades and fresh references from profs. I wish I had done that 4-5 years ago instead of taking a million courses here and there! Or I guess you could try CDA, but it won't improve your sGPA so it might not help too much except down the road if you have thousands of hours of experience...
Not the most ideal solutions, it really sucks
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2 hours ago, friendlyghost said:
Hey there, I've got yet another ORPAS question. Does anyone have any know how they treat pass/fail courses? For winter 2020 my school instituted mandatory pass/fail for all students. So 5 of my last 20 courses have no grade. Are they gonna calculate my sGPA with 15 courses instead? Or are they gonna get the 5 classes from a previous semester? I struggled earlier in my degree, and it would be disastrous if they went back another semester.
What school is that if you don't mind sharing? I'm so sorry you went through this. It would utterly outrage me. Same grade if you got a 60 and a 100? And what about people like you that get incredibly penalized for their master's applications? Come on...
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1 hour ago, SLP-hopefully said:
Got of the waitlist for Western today!!!! Janet emailed about 2 hours ago
Congrats!!! Still in the first quadrant in mid-May ?
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On 5/12/2021 at 2:40 PM, slpsych said:
Hey!
Can someone clarify how ORPAS calculation works for me? I understand that they take the average of the entire year rather than semesters, but is it the same for summer semester as well? I have 19 half courses in the last two years and 1 in the summer. Would summer also be grouped with fall and winter or would they just be using that specific course in the sub-GPA calculation?
From my understanding the grouping thing only applies to your "oldest" courses if they need to take some credits from a semester where you took more than 1 course (probably because how can they choose which course to pick for the average?). So let's say you took 19 half credits in the last two years, they will need to go back one more semester. If in that semester you took more than 1 course, they will average the gpa of the entire semester.
I may be wrong because it can get confusing, but this is what happened in my situation. I took 3 half courses in 3 different semesters in 2020. They were not grouped, but counted individually. However, when they summed up all the courses I took after graduating to those taken in my undergrad to reach 20 half credits, they still had to take half a credit from my 3rd undergrad year, where I had an awful average. So for my oldest half credit they used the average of that semester (which killed my subGPA ?)
Hope it helps
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1 minute ago, SLP-hopefully said:
Janet responded saying the class is now full. They occasionally get cancellations so the waitlist will remain open all summer
Oh wow so they didn't even make it past the first quadrant...I really hope that those left in the first quadrant will hear good news as those few people that are on another waitlist accept somewhere else later in the summer, it must be a torture to be almost there.
Thank you so much for sending the email, at least I got some closure.
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Is anyone in Toronto/GTA leaving a volunteer position that would need to be filled?
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24 minutes ago, SpeechieAlly said:
Does anybody know what quadrant has received offers from Western so far? Have they only made it through the 1st quadrant?
Yes for now it seems to be only first quadrant, hopefully towards the end. It's possible that 7-8 people got off the waitlist this week. Assuming that the first quadrant should have a lot of good candidates that maybe were accepted elsewhere, if they don't get to the second quadrant soon it means that the quadrants are huge
I'm in the 3rd and I'm very close to giving up hope.
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22 hours ago, speechietobe23 said:
Has anyone on the waitlist heard from Western today?
It's not looking good
and the FB group already has 32 members, if we consider that some who got accepted may not have joined the group, the class is probably almost full...
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48 minutes ago, SpeechieAlly said:
Has anybody dared to ask how long the waitlist is this year???
I have in the email where I asked about the quadrant but she didn’t address that. So I guess they don’t want to tell us!
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Just now, CCSLP94 said:
I am almost certain that the waitlist size stays the same regardless of the number of applicants (I mean, unless they had an exceptionally small number of applicants one year and the waitlist couldn't be filled).
I'm not really sure what answer you're looking for if the one I gave didn't help you at all. I was just trying to illustrate that, while obviously those in the first quadrant have the highest chance of receiving an offer, that certainly does not mean that someone in the second, third, or fourth quadrant does not have a chance of receiving one.
Sorry, I absolutely didn't mean anything negative with my comment, I was just saying that after reading your post I'm going to start being hopeful while I had accepted not getting in since I'm in the third quadrant
And being hopeful for months only led to disappointment, which still does not mean that a part of me doesn't hope to still have a shot. So I am thankful for what you wrote. Sorry for the misunderstanding!
I only mentioned the different waitlist size because in previous posts others mentioned waitlists of 50-100 applicants, which could explain why sometimes applicants that were in the 2nd quadrant never made it to the program?
2022 Canada Admissions SLP thread
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Got waitlisted (#12) for McMaster interviews, 3.83 sGPA