neural_tomas

Yeah, I hope they don't fall back on next week and just get it all out today.

I think so too! I haven't seen anything, and it looks like no one else has heard anything back.

Someone else in this chain said they e-mailed the people responsible for the NDSEG fellowship this year, and in one response it was said that this meant moving to the next stage. iirc, someone else then also said that those updates in the system may not be correct (i.e. those without it may still be considered). Maybe this other person is just unaware?

Yeah, from the sound of it, for the 1/31 2nd round updates, it sounds like it happened throughout the day (early to late afternoon). I wouldn't be surprised if those updates were done manually and these will be done manually as well. I have a guess, they may go alphabetically by last name, but who knows as well, the order could be arbitrary (like by DOD branch, etc). I think I'll try to imagine my letter will come in Friday EOD, that way I don't waste 2 days constantly checking.

Who knows, maybe they'll send it out close to 5PM Eastern? the "DOD 2nd round reviews" update was 1/31 4:54PM for me. But again, this is all super arbitrary and they could send it out at 3:14 PM for all we know.

Thanks so much for sharing!

Yeah I agree on the tea leaves assessment. It sounds like no one had an update, and it would be unlikely for no one on gradcafe to get updates while others do get updates. Being said, anything is also very possible, esp. without any transparency into the process, its plausible other applications could've been sent to DoD without an update. People may forget to update systems / enter in data in some scenarios.

Has anyone seen any new updates on the portal? It looks like we may hear back officially as early as next Monday right? I haven't seen any update anywhere on the portal or by e-mail.

I wonder if the # of awardees has stayed somewhat constant (150-200) but the number of applicants has increased a large deal over the years. It looks like wikipedia says in 2020-2021 there were close to 8K applicants. This previous contractor says it used to get over to 4K applications per year, and this brown univsersity post says NDSEG got over 3K applications in 2013, so perhaps the number of applications is also partly to blame. I am not sure why only ~169 are awarded instead of the "up to 500" referenced , I wonder how many are actually ultimately offered. https://engineering.brown.edu/news/2013-09-19/carlos-bledt-wins-graduate-ndseg-fellowship https://ndseg.sysplus.com/NDSEG/about/#:~:text=Since program inception%2C over 4%2C000,and over 60%2C000 applications received. Perhaps you / we should lobby our congresspeople and senators for more fellowships and funding like this, perhaps not just now, but also later in our careers. IIRC the recent bipartisan infrastructure bill that passes cut out funding for the sciences, I could be wrong so it would be good to double check.

Thanks for finding this!! Nice catch!

Anyone have any idea of what % historically make it to the DoD Panel? I've tried looking around and I found a resource (I can't find it right now) that claimed top 40%, but I am not sure how legit the source was... additionally iirc that post was made many years ago. I've e-mailed the NDSEG administrators, but I am not sure they would disclose what proportion made it to the DoD Panel / 2nd round reviews. Will try to update if I do!

ONR for me and I got the update.

Thanks for reaching out! The extra e-mail seemed to do the trick ; ) + congrats too!

Perhaps... in years past, they just masked all progress, whereas this year we can see progress. So perhaps, if the phase doesn't change, then it signals that it hasn't been sent forward (but it still could either be sent forward or stay at that phase up and until all final results are finally released) .... whereas if the phase changes, at least this early, it signals that it has progressed to a later phase. However, that the phase has updated, doesn't imply it has been rejected, because it could still update again before the final decisions come out. At any rate, it seems it would be early to reject at the DOD phase given that DOD review is to happen in March. What strikes me, is that the update happened at the end of January to "phase 2" instead of happening at the end of Feb according to the schedule posted above. @ryanleh Have you heard back from your e-mail? I think I found sometimes I needed to follow up once or multiple times to get a response...