Yellow#5

Yes, I posted right after I checked my status. I don't know when it changed, but I also got an email sometime later that evening telling me I was denied. Good luck Cookie, you are still in the game. Give my regards to the I-man if you get in.

Actually, I was commenting on the fact that when guys find out they are going to be daddy's, certain ones -- not everyone-- become extremely practical overnight. Their first instinct is usually to make more money. I've seen this happen again and again to guys who I never thought I would see this happen to. It's an old fashioned notion, but let's not forget, despite popular neg. stereotype, men are often reliable and self-sacrificing. You're really not in it alone finishing this degree.

deny.

Ha ha ha! I think no admission standards! People who strike up a chat and seem to be sympatico on the boards should work together.

I think top 20 is more what I was trying to say, cath. (ranked, in my mind, in order of job placement). I'm not trying to say that they set out to be homogenius, but both the students who have strong goals and strong applications are drawn to "top" programs and apply to several, while top programs also seem to respond favorably to them. You don't pass on Brown because you changed your mind and don't want to study english after all, you pass because you're in a comparable program. It's just figuring out what makes this same small group stand out to so many top school ad coms, that's the mystery we are all trying to unravel a bit.

Catherinian, I have to think that if 19 offers were made and more than 1/2 of those offers are expected to turn Brown down, it's because they got into AT LEAST one other ivy league, or top 20 school. I'm also guessing that at least some of the 7-9 who accept Brown got in to another very good program too. That's life, I understand that there are very few well prepared candidates and the rest of us are only struggling to figure out what well prepared means and how we can become it, but I'm not going into this thing blindly optimistic next year, thinking top schools pick all different people just because they seem interesting. I agree with you here, but since this year is a little wierd, I'd wait for the rejection in hand before I crossed them off the list. You don't know if funding will pop up based on initial overly conservative estimates. Is Irish probably rejected? Yeah, probably, but it's his perogative to wait to make his decision.

Um, hello? Ad com? Yes, I am the personal assistant of shea--isawesome *cough* *cough* *mumble* ummm, yes, she'd like to decline that acceptance...oh, the last name, umm, well, who's accepted? Let's say, around yesterday? Aw well, pick any of those guys, they decline -- bye!

Even so, babies don't stop you from finishing grad school these days...it stops your husband from finishing

Yes, but does the AdCom at UVA like funny people? That is all that matters to me right now. Eternity can take care of itself. ...and I'll thank you to pronounce that Yellow NUMBER five. http://www.rhapsody.com/soul-coughing/r ... yrics.html (be sure to disable pop-up blocker if you want to listen).

HelloFem, The campus is big but the offerings are immense. I was a German/Econ major and every department has its superstars and most are accessible if you put in a little work. It's like disneyland for book dorks. I loved undergrad at UCSB. The downtown is very compact, and you will know everyone up and down State Street in about 3 weeks if you live downtown. After a year or so, you might think SB is too small

just because they don't believe in birth control, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I made this same point elsewhere. They are not as important as the cable guy. Why should we wait for an unspecified window of time?

Not if that school is Brandeis, because they are livin' by their own rules this year

Lisa, Is it a teaching Fulbright in Germany? Absolutely take it! (and try and go to Munich or Berlin, because the small German towns are nearly as interesting). Take it, take it, it will look good on your resume forever. As for the deferal for economic reasons, I think many schools are more apt to let you take a semester or two off because of economic hardship. If you can swing it for a Semester or a year on loans, try and do it that way. You never know, in a year, things may be looking up for your parents.

Mascara is great for covering greys at the temple in a pinch. (like, in case you're dating a younger guy).

MD, Since you are currently living in the wasteland were I grew up, I feel your pain. First off, I must say in response to this: Perhaps your sister should be feeding the homeless, since you are busy with your own goals. And frankly, I don't know what your mom thinks lawyers do. I'm lucky enough to have a job at a fairly large and secure firm, but we have temp attorneys working on a million projects. At the drop of a dime, we call an agency and ask for 90 lawyers for an emergency project and 90 unemployed lawyers magically appear every single time we do, so "lawyer" doesn't mean much these days, except 150k in student loan debt. And the only people losing their jobs faster than lawyers (and maybe realtors) are journalists. Every newspaper is hurting, in case you didn't notice. The only real life skills are learned by grad students in interminable Phd programs. If you can make a meal out of a can of corn and generic pancake mix, you are set for life! Skills like those are better than a fat 401k, cause you never loose them

The toughest part of becoming an adult is realizing your parents know very little about the world and probably never did. It's really scary when you get intimations of not knowing shit yourself, but life saves that for your 30s.

Frankdux, That program in spain is very informal and can last from a week to several months as you choose. It's just a way to get to spain and hang around a few weeks, eating someone else's food

19 sure seems like alot of offers, but how many of these guys are also in at UPenn, Columbia, Harvard, etc? For those of us who can't seem to get in to any of the Ivy's, Brown is an automatic choice, but the trend seems to be on this board, that if you get into one Ivy, you get in to just about all of them, so the ivy's all caninbalize each other's applicants. Maybe Brown will squeeze out a couple more for round 2, one never knows.

Probably they sent you an informal acceptance, and now they are readying a more formal acceptance. I don't think they take it back

On Apply Yourself, when you first log in, there is a link called "message center" off to the right. Mine still says "no decision available" when I click it, but they have 700 rejected applicants to log in to the system, so maybe it's taking a while. I've only seen one or two posters about Columbia rejections and at least one specified the rejection was a response to an email.

KFF, That's a very respectable Verbal Score, but a not great Q score. If you are in anything related to the sciences, you probably did the right thing in holding them back.

To take the edge off, wouldn't it be awesome to have something great to do -- just in case no one recognizes your awesomeness this year? I just heard about this program where you can spend a week at a resort near Madrid helping Adults improve their English skills. Your meals and hotel would be free, but you need to pay for the plane ticket to Madrid. The entire week is planned with activities and one-on one sessions with a Spanish person trying to improve their English, but it would probably be a pretty fun way to extend a vacation for a week, meet some nice people and learn about Spanish culture. Not a bad deal if you plan to take a trip to the area anyway. Check it out: http://www.morethanenglish.com/anglos/index.asp

You need to tell your other programs to hold their...hats for a sec. You waited 2 months on them, it's not to much for them to wait one more week. You can't help it if you're a hot commodity. If you wanted to be a super nice guy, you would tell all your programs except your second choice "no thank you" but really, you should take the time to visit or at least talk to their profs before you really turn them down once and for all. I suggest you leave town for an extended weekend and don't come back until Wed, at the latest. Heck, may as well visit a school -- in a warm climate, that is.

Nic, How am I not winning if I rapture out of this mess and some poor cubi dweller keeps calling my disconnected number for imaginary cash? ...and whoever tries to employ active listening with my mom, or any of my family members, as described in the article, is falling right in to their trap.