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Fundamental flaw in GRE reading comprehension test
pemdas replied to canberra's topic in GRE/GMAT/etc
Let me start from fact that I am not a native speaker of English who spent 19 years on learning the language (since 1993). So I may have no excuse(s) for my general comprehension rather I reserve the right for seldom idiomatic abuse in speech for obvious reasons; I did not speak English as much as the native speakers would for the last 19 years. I am only able to use the language to certain extent - proficient speaker. Now coming to a point of my post - the simplification you made of the original fragment is not acceptable to me. Yet I agree that it is a very good example of how GRE essay needs to be, i.e. devoid of professional jargon which you removed. However, in the academic realm such simplified writing would not be accepted almost for sure. The translation lacks the sort of abstract thinking - the elements referenced to a few terms and concepts mentioned in the article. The simplified piece looks just abrupt, and the original article allows for some degree of uncertainty of the events discussed. -
manhattan, magoosh, kaplan (in the order of difficulty) - these are materials to help us if we aim around 160s (low, middle, close to 165/6) but not the perfect score. Nova's GRE math bible is the most extensive guide I have seen so far for the quant. section of test. I believe the bible will help me score higher in my next attempt.
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magoosh will help you spend money by explaining its benefits for gre prep and giving testimonials of its aspirants who succeeded in exam. It's you who should be concerned with your prep mainly not materials or prep/coach center.
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you need flexibility in approaching GRE math all you have to do now is to set back and relax - don't worry about your score take a break, like three days, then find some good practice source and start solving questions for the quant section. I recommend GRE math bible by nova, as the book is old and was uploaded many times on the net you can try downloading this for education purposes (only! Keep abreast of @ and don't disseminate the source). Do each question on the paper, be patient and honestly tell yourself how much time you spent and why. If your timing was under 2 min-s, that' ok. If you exceeded 2 min-s blow the alarm and read official explanation from the book. After you read and understood the book explanation - devise the similar question with your own supplied data. Post this question on forum(s) if the difficulty level was hard and see how others solve the question. Copy-paste the same question from your book - the one you solved wrong - to another space and review one week before your exam. You must be able to recognize your own weaknesses and manage to fix them. The process I just described here is called learning on mistakes or analytical approach to studying a subject. It works for both GMAT and GRE.
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you want progress correct, not just inert movement. Because all you did was alike inert movement. To achieve progress you must identify your weak points first. From what you did - tons of exercises and problems - I could not read sit down-and-analyze work over your solved problems. You must clearly understand your weak points first and then work over their solidification. only then you will see progress, until you do so, your mental attitude is simple pattern of conceit
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these are all theories why we need to elaborate on whatever we don't know but assume groundless the scores from online account are valid not the scores from monitor. Some people wait 6 weeks for their scores to be accessible - these people are not lucky enough and take paper based exams no need to question as to why unoff. score is different from offic.? it's meaningless
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Well, I don't think magoosh has that hard stuff put for math. Their math questions are testing concepts which are easily solved by using brutal methods. That may become a major weakness of magoosh aspirants prepping for the test. They should have included a few questions with the devious answer choices and tricky content to stimulate the test takers for looking after various kinds of substitution, plugging in and back-solving ways. I don't find math of magoosh tricky at all, if you have a strong foundation in the GRE curriculum math.
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your strength in verbal aspect of the test helped you analyze the questions for math section. Most questions are misread on GRE by people having strong math background and failing to understand problems posed in tricky exam words.
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Hey don't be that dismayed with your performance on GRE. Get hold of 8 math series strategic guides for MGMAT math and study them for 20 days (I can help here with books, send pm), review the chapters and solve chapter end problems there, appox. 15 after each unit. Next, download nova's math gre bible and all questions from there, again by refreshing theory with the book examples; solve all questions from nova This will take another 10-15 days. Buy one of MGRE's kindle editions (8-9 bucks) and have access to 5 tests simulating a real exam. Take practice tests and score at least 165. I am the math minor with econ major ugrad. and have master's too. Yet on exam day I lost my vigor (been sleep-deprived due to long distance traveling from my country to another place - goddamned ETS doesn't conduct CBT exams in my country) and surrendered last three questions in the third math section (one was experimental and that doesn't help either). At the test center, I had experienced a power outage during my last math section with all kind of destructive effects, somehow managed to jump 160. So you can do this. I will be retaking my exam in October at the different test center. Good luck with your studies, and I hope you will score in the 99th percentile on math section of GRE.
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as I said earlier either in urch or somewhere else - may be on Magoosh web-blog space - the foundations matter up to 160 after that no resource is much effective. One needs to approach test strategically
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BTW their dashboard lied two times I took test both in verbal and quant
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yea, these boys nowadays know the tastes and the motivations of us, test takers when it comes to all kind of sorting stuff and presenting materials for buying
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if you answer 3/4 questions correctly, you should score 160+ in verbal with 85% accuracy in each section you will get V 165
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unless you score 90 percentile on math subject test, do retake general test for q 166+ i don't have doubts about your math wiz, but then subject test will through onto you different topic questions and 90 percentile on subject test is difficult to achieve. Further, if you plan on applying to top 20 schools in your area all will seek at least q 166.
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what about math subject test, you're done with that already?
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as long as your intended major is quant intensive your verbal score above 30% percentile will probably get a pass. you need to concentrate on your other parts of application package, also your quant at 88% is within top 15 percentile rank - so again concentrate on SOP, LORs and other relevant stuff in your application process.
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it's like putting a tie onto your night costume, provided the last time you were dressed in suit for business meeting? score select is an option to isolate your previous scores - if you show your score from the last exam why you do retake? you gain advantage by skipping AWA and AdComs will think you are "too smart" for studying in their program don't skip anything - complete the test in its entirety
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by the way, i know math majors who took GRE twice and got 780 which is 163 on new scale. So you can rest and be proud in some way with your achievement. Many of us will score 166 and higher not because of being smarter but because of many other factors involved in test-taking abilities as well as many other qualities factored into the score. One of the most essential qualities easily factored into score even if you were studying the tested subject all your life is the attention span. Ability to concentrate on some subject and to overcome the stress is a very significant contributing factor for the standardized test's score. Most people who have high GPAs are shocked by low GRE/GMAT scores. The fact however is that those two tests require much longer time and greater ability to concentrate from the healthy grown-ups than human physiology allows. These two tests will require our attention span to be of length more than 40 minutes with some quick rebuilding breaks of approx. 1 minute or so. So if we need to concentrate on something for more than 40 minutes we should experience stress, because this will be contra to our biological systems (the whole discussion of 40 min-s may not regarded as my speculation; it's the scientifically proven fact by doctors) The best way to prepare for GRE test can be increasing one's attention span and getting ready for rebuilding the lost concentration in exam. This should help, in my opinion.
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there's little to no difference for AdComs when it comes to comparing 163 or 163 to 166 or even the perfect 170 for math the final word to say is left at the discretion of each AdCom member of course, but mainly >=770 (old score) should work smoothly for most quant intensive programs 170 or 166 or 168 says AdComs that if you missed some required background courses in UGrad you can catch up easily and reread the course by yourself. If you have decent background in UGrad and took all required courses for breaking through the first semester material in PhD program 163 is absolutely fine. For example, I am applying for PhD econ and mine 161 will worsen my situation. Therefore I will retake - your's fine.
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heh, how you know if you stressed or not? this is common issue we do mistakes or rash under stress the stress is not the constant condition we enter into when we need to work or take GRE. It's just environment which causes stress and the only way to overcome the stress if to be healthy. It's not possible not be exposed to stress - we should be able to fight the stress and sustain under stressful factors Only with great confidence obtained in your prior studies and vast energy stress can be defeated. Otherwise it's done
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on a test day many will depend on ability to work under stress. your math wiz as to how and what you are able to solve matters less than your ability to think before setting yourself for the solution process. This is the so called strategic element with general GRE contrasted to many subject tests. One note: many math PhD programs still require general GRE test from their applicants despite the fact that they will only need quant background which is better attested by subject test. The only reason they do that is to cut the short of people who are able to prioritize under time constraints and in the stressful environment of test. The only way to curb the stress for any one like me, and I guess you as well, is to get used to the test's timing format be it the paper-based test or computer based one, have good rest before the test day. For example, before my exam, I spent like 11-12 hours in traveling over night with no possibility to sleep, rest, eat - not speaking about reciting some words for say verbal sections. I entered the test room with a vague head and scored 161 in Q and 152 V. I used to hit 90% correctly for all Magoosh problems at the first sitting and would score Q 164-166 with MGRE tests, Q 163-168 Kaplan online MSTs, Q 162-167 Barron's 4 online tests When stressed, we shall commit inane actions
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PROFILE: Type of Undergrad: Major in International Economics from Top 10 public institution in Azerbaijan, NIS country (Newly Independent State) Undergrad GPA: 4.62 out of 5.00 (Math: 4.50, Economics: 4.74) Type of Grad: Major in Finance from Top private university (medium of instruction English) in Azerbaijan. Grad GPA: 86% out of 100% GRE: Q:161 V:152 AWA: ___ (expect at least 4.00) Math Courses (undergrad-level): Two-semester course of Complex Math which includes Calculus I (grade A), Calculus II (A), Calculus III (A), Linear Algebra (A), Differential Equations (A). One-semester course of Economics and Mathematical Modeling which includes Introduction to Econometrics and Probability (grade . One-semester course of Statistics (grade category-passed). Econ Courses (undergrad-level): Four-semester course of General Economic Theory which includes Microeconomics I (grade A), Macroeconomics I (A), Microeconomics advanced (A), Macroeconomics advanced (A). Economics of production (grade category-passed), International Economics (, Economics and Organization of Business (A), Course (research) work on General Economic Theory (A), Course (research) work on International Economics (A), Pre-diploma Cap-stone Project on International Economics ( Stat. Courses (grad-level): Business Statistics (grade A), Modeling and Business Decision Analysis (, Business Research Methods (A) Econ Courses (grad-level): Managerial Economics: advanced micro with theory and applications (grade A), Financial Management: elements of financial economics (A) Other Courses: Two completed auditing designations (8 exams in total) recognized in the US. Letters of Recommendation: 1. Professor and Dean of the Graduate school of Economics and Management, Vice President of University: has taught me two graduate-level courses on Business Research Methods and Managerial Economics 2. Econ Professor from the Academy of Science in Azerbaijan: assisted him in an inter-disciplinary project in the capacity of statistician. 3. Stats Associate Professor from my graduate school department: I have discussed my plans with him extensively and did well in his class. He is an alumnus of Northeastern University (Boston, USA) and holds MA in Economics as well as PhD from the state recognized institution. Research Experience: Two research projects within undergraduate program, one project within graduate program, one project with the Academy of sciences in inter-disciplinary field. Teaching Experience: no formal education teaching experience, avail total 6 years of professional training experience. Research Interests: Micro Theory, Applied Micro, Econometrics SOP: I am working on it now. Concerns: Major concern is my GRE score. Other: Nominated as a recipient of Erasmus Mundus 2008 year fellowship for one-year PhD studies in Greece: living stipend 1,500 Euro per month, tuition remission, travel expenses (offer declined) Applying to: University of Iowa Economics University of Georgia Economics University of Illinois at Chicago Economics University of California-Irvine Economics University of California-Riverside Economics Florida State University Economics Emory University Economics Washington State University School of Economic Sciences University of Massachusetts Amherst Economics Utah State University Economics University of Florida Economics University of Houston Economics Rice University Economics Please kindly express your views about my profile and whether PhD in economics admission requirements of the universities listed above are commensurate with my profile features.