curiouscandy Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 Apologies if the following question sounds silly. I received an offer from Oxford's BPhil and several from PGR T10 Ph.D programs. While I am very appreciate of these Ph.D offers, I wonder if it would make sense to attend B.Phil for someone who doesn't plan to remain in the academia in the long term? On account of BPhil's placement data, it appears to be quite a versatile degree, and my impression is that Oxford's pedigree would be advantageous in the job market (I have in mind consulting or public-policy-related jobs). In contrast, I wonder if a Ph.D degree from a non-ivy league PGR T10 or even T5 would be less recognized outside the academia?
sokratis Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 I’ve actually been told by graduates of the BPhil in Philosophy that a lot of them specifically end up in consultancy. If you don’t plan on entering academia, then I guess the fact that the BPhil is only 2 years counts in its favour. And having a PhD rather than a BPhil would be unlikely to give you any extra boost on the non-academic job market. The only reason I can think of not to accept the BPhil would be if you were unable to secure funding.
sokratis Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 Also, having just re-read your post, just to add to the above: I definitely feel that the pedigree of Oxford would outweigh the fact that it’s a BPhil rather than a PhD on the non-academic job market. A non-academic employer probably wouldn’t know that Rutgers has a stellar program for example.
curiouscandy Posted March 9, 2021 Author Posted March 9, 2021 I should clarify that I am currently not dead set on getting a non-academic job. This post is more about my concern with realizing career alternatives to academic philosophy as a non-ivy league phd graduate.
talkativemarmot Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) edit: apologies, wrong thread Edited March 9, 2021 by talkativemarmot
musicdegree4me Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/8/2021 at 3:49 PM, curiouscandy said: Apologies if the following question sounds silly. I received an offer from Oxford's BPhil and several from PGR T10 Ph.D programs. While I am very appreciate of these Ph.D offers, I wonder if it would make sense to attend B.Phil for someone who doesn't plan to remain in the academia in the long term? On account of BPhil's placement data, it appears to be quite a versatile degree, and my impression is that Oxford's pedigree would be advantageous in the job market (I have in mind consulting or public-policy-related jobs). In contrast, I wonder if a Ph.D degree from a non-ivy league PGR T10 or even T5 would be less recognized outside the academia? Take the top 10 PhD. It's free, gives you way more options, and not that much longer than the BPhil if you hustle. PhilgoreTrout 1
Marcus_Aurelius Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 I don't have much familiarity with job markets, but an important question seems to be: do you want to study philosophy for 5-6 years, and are you ok with not making more money in that time? If the answer is a strong yes, take the top PhD program, and then you can take advantage of various opportunities during it to boost non-academic job prospects as well. eleatics 1
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