starbucks_lattie Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Are there any ones applied to the sociology program in UNC-Chapel Hill? Any idea why this year's admits are sending out so late? When is the visitation date if anyone knows of. Thanks guys!
sciencegirl Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Hey - I think some admissions decision went out early already: And I think a few others posted in the acceptances/rejections thread... not sure if they are holding onto an informal wait list or if they are just torturing everyone and not rejecting people they know aren't in... (Arrggh... why do the schools do that???)
andy334 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 UNC was the first school I heard from. When I talked to them in January I was told that they will be admitting more people depending on the interest they get from their first round of acceptances. I'm seriously considering going there. What are people's impressions of the program? It's ranked the same as Harvard, Chicago, and Stanford, but I feel like I hear a lot less about it...
socscholar Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Visit days are this Thursday through Saturday. They asked us to decline as early as possible "by March 15th, if possible" but of course, no formal obligations till April 15th. They are definitely going to feel out the first round and decide based on that.
starbucks_lattie Posted February 19, 2012 Author Posted February 19, 2012 Congrats to those who got the admits. UNC is my dream school and I didn't hear anything from them...Does anyone know if the program has sent out mass rejecs yet? Visit days are this Thursday through Saturday. They asked us to decline as early as possible "by March 15th, if possible" but of course, no formal obligations till April 15th. They are definitely going to feel out the first round and decide based on that. Can you tell me the dates?
starbucks_lattie Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 Feb 23-25 Thank you! that is early! I probably get a rej. then...
anyname Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 So I go to UNC and had a conversation with one of the professors about their process. They haven't sent all their rejections because they're waiting to hear back from the acceptances - an 'informal waitlist' I suppose. So don't give up and good luck!
starbucks_lattie Posted February 22, 2012 Author Posted February 22, 2012 So I go to UNC and had a conversation with one of the professors about their process. They haven't sent all their rejections because they're waiting to hear back from the acceptances - an 'informal waitlist' I suppose. So don't give up and good luck! Thank you so much for letting me know the status! I hope I can get in so much. Do you think it would be helpful to write to the director at this point?
FertMigMort Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 UNC was the first school I heard from. When I talked to them in January I was told that they will be admitting more people depending on the interest they get from their first round of acceptances. I'm seriously considering going there. What are people's impressions of the program? It's ranked the same as Harvard, Chicago, and Stanford, but I feel like I hear a lot less about it... This is coming a little late andy, but I think of UNC as one of those hidden public school gems in the same category with UT-Austin, Penn State or UWashington. Excellent pop center and lots of potential mentors to colloborate with. If you're interested in demography at all, you should strongly consider UNC.
RefurbedScientist Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 This is coming a little late andy, but I think of UNC as one of those hidden public school gems in the same category with UT-Austin, Penn State or UWashington. Excellent pop center and lots of potential mentors to colloborate with. If you're interested in demography at all, you should strongly consider UNC. Do you, fert, (or @anyname or anyone else) know if UNC places grads as well as its counterparts in the top 5? The website actually does a great job of listing recent placements, but it's not clear how those stack up against Harvard/Stanford/Chicago. Has UNC's placement record, and it's reputation as a whole for that matter, been on the ascent or decline recently or does the forecast look stable?
FertMigMort Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Do you, fert, (or @anyname or anyone else) know if UNC places grads as well as its counterparts in the top 5? The website actually does a great job of listing recent placements, but it's not clear how those stack up against Harvard/Stanford/Chicago. Has UNC's placement record, and it's reputation as a whole for that matter, been on the ascent or decline recently or does the forecast look stable? It's not clear to me from their websites. For example, if you look at Harvard's website (http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/soc/gs/gradstudentplace.html) they only show placements at top schools. Furthermore, it's pretty out of date, because I know that Turley is at Rice now, not Wisconsin. I know that UNC's postdocs place really well and in the field of demography, postdocs have become the norm before a first academic job. I would consider UNC a school with good placement, but I don't have any data to base that on. Just a feeling. Wow... that was probably the most unhelpful thing I've said thus far. Please forgive me! FertMigMort 1
RefurbedScientist Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 No, very helpful indeed. Thanks for your response. I have the impression that UNC might not place quite as well as the other top 5 schools, but it probably does as least as well when compared with top tier schools at large. You're right that they do well with demography post docs and RWJ post docs. I think that the program may lack the resources and networks available to the similarly ranked private schools, which of course has an impact on its PhDs getting coveted assistant professorships as a first job. On the other hand, it's possible that UNC grads prefer to do a postdoc that leads into a top R-1 TT job (for which they are doubtlessly well trained) rather than accepting a "lower status" first job, and this preference would be reflected in a sort of delay in the placement record. Anyone else heard anything through the grapevine on UNC an job prospects? I'm curious to see if UNC places grads below its punching weight, so to speak.
lovenhaight Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 UNC places very, very well. I'm not sure I'd call them a "hidden public school gem", nor would I apply that to Texas or Washington, since those names carry weight in the field and thus in my mind don't qualify as hidden. I think that if you expressed that sentiment at UNC, they would see it as quite insulting given their ranking, faculty, and record.
FertMigMort Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 UNC places very, very well. I'm not sure I'd call them a "hidden public school gem", nor would I apply that to Texas or Washington, since those names carry weight in the field and thus in my mind don't qualify as hidden. I think that if you expressed that sentiment at UNC, they would see it as quite insulting given their ranking, faculty, and record. That's the hard thing about giving people advice about repuation. Everyone is probably going to disagree slightly about how good a school is because of their own placement, specialty and advisor connections. I fully admit to not knowing everything about every school. I only consider them hidden because my friends at private schools never mention UNC, despite it's ranking. I think UNC is an outstanding program and would be really excited to get a postdoc there. I finally found their placement page http://sociology.unc.edu/people/alumni-and-recent-placements if anyone wants to look for themselves. Looks like before the economic crisis they were sending lots of students to TT jobs at top 20 schools. That is fantastic placement! FertMigMort 1
chibuku Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Firstly, congrats to all those who got in! I was wondering if any UNC acceptances would mind posting a short profile of their application. It was a department I found out about too late to apply this year, and am considering next year if I don't go with my acceptances. My GPA was just below 3.6 and my MSc is international and hard to convert, and I suspect the rest of my application wasn't strong enough to overcome this deficiency for the top programs. Edited February 29, 2012 by chibuku
starbucks_lattie Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 I heard that the UNC has sent out all the admits... As for the placement, I don't know much about it---according to their website, it looks pretty good!
Darth.Vegan Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Is there really a school in the T15 or even T25 that has terrible job placement? (2008,09 aside)
FertMigMort Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Is there really a school in the T15 or even T25 that has terrible job placement? (2008,09 aside) Depends on your definition of terrible job placement.
starbucks_lattie Posted March 4, 2012 Author Posted March 4, 2012 Also depends on how competitive the candidate is on the job market.
Darth.Vegan Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 I consider landing a tenure track job to be good job placement and I don't mean at Harvard.
RefurbedScientist Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 Is there really a school in the T15 or even T25 that has terrible job placement? (2008,09 aside) It's not necessarily a question of "terrible" placement. I'm curious to see if UNC's placement record is comparable to other top 5 programs, or if it's more similar to lower ranked programs. It's useful information for me because I'm comparing it to a number of other programs that are ranked lower but might place as well (or better).
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